Rumor: Gavin Lux out for season, Dodgers likely interested in SS

[High heat]

With Lux going out for the season would the Dodgers have interest and what would they be willing to give up for Farmer or Gordon.

 

If you could capitalize on selling Gordon as a SS with the production he had a year ago and the years on control left could he bring in a solid prospect or 2?

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[Puckett34]

Just now, High heat said:

With Lux going out for the season would the Dodgers have interest and what would they be willing to give up for Farmer or Gordon.

 

If you could capitalize on selling Gordon as a SS with the production he had a year ago and the years on control left could he bring in a solid prospect or 2?

 

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Can Gordon legitimately be considered a SS candidate?  In his 231 career major league games, he's only appeared at SS for 31 of them.  Even in the minors he really hasn't played full time SS since 2018

[GKuehl]

When I heard the Lux news, I wondered whether Farmer might be an option for the Dodgers, especially considering the Dodgers love versatile guys and Farmer would fill in nicely there. After the addition of Solano, Farmer seems a bit redundant considering Solano can play everywhere that Farmer can except for SS. However, that last part is probably key -- trading Farmer would leave the Twins without a true backup SS. It seems pretty clear the Twins don't want to use Gordon at SS, Polanco is nothing more than a "break glass in case of emergency" SS at this point, and Royce Lewis and Brooks Lee might not be ready for the Majors until mid-summer. A trade of Farmer seems possible if the Twins felt comfortable at all heading into the year with some combination of Gordon, Lee, Polanco, Solano as backup SS options; however, it seems unlikely we would want to diminish our overall depth considering the primary goal of offseason seems to have been to accumulate as much depth as possible. 

 

[Mike Sixel]

Gordon isn't a SS, but Farmer going there did immediately pop into my head. Dodgers have TWO catchers in the top 100 prospect list on Fangraphs, btw......

I don't see the Twins doing this, but I'd certainly consider it given their SS "depth" right now.

[MMMordabito]

I don't see why they would trade for Farmer or Gordon, when Iglesias would only cost them money (and they have plenty of that).

[Cory Engelhardt]

I kind of figure if the Dodgers really want a SS, they'll be talking to either Milwaukee about Adames or Cleveland about Rosario. 

[Twins GFP]

Dodgers are not looking for a long-term replacement, so you can rule out the kids.

The Twins didn't sign these guys to move them right now.  Depth and redundancy is good. 

As with just about everybody, you answer the phone on trade proposals.  But I imagine it would take a pretty healthy overpay by the Dodgers to get someone like Farmer from the Twins.  Not because Farmer is a world beater, but because he plays an important role right now. 

[tarheeltwinsfan]

The Dodgers will want the best SS which they can get. The Twins will want the best left-handed hitting corner OF which they can get. Maybe a trade can be worked out. 

[Mike Sixel]

12 minutes ago, MMMordabito said:

I don't see why they would trade for Farmer or Gordon, when Iglesias would only cost them money (and they have plenty of that).

Because he's bad, and they let like 15 guys go to save money this off season, passing on all the great SS that only cost money. That said, I think this is a reload year for them for some reason, and they'll spend HUGE next year (ohtani and ?).

[DJL44]

Miguel Rojas is not a terrible option at SS. 

[ashbury]

22 minutes ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

The Dodgers will want the best SS which they can get. The Twins will want the best left-handed hitting corner OF which they can get. Maybe a trade can be worked out. 

[Mike Sixel]

25 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Miguel Rojas is not a terrible option at SS. 

If his wrist is healed, he's probably a 2 - 2.5 WAR player. Not great, but above average. If his wrist isn't the only issue with his hitting last year, they'll need a new option.

[KirbyDome89]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

Gordon isn't a SS, but Farmer going there did immediately pop into my head. Dodgers have TWO catchers in the top 100 prospect list on Fangraphs, btw......

I don't see the Twins doing this, but I'd certainly consider it given their SS "depth" right now.

I couldn't say yes to that swap fast enough, which means it's probably not enough to swing a deal even if LA had interest in Farmer. 

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, KirbyDome89 said:

I couldn't say yes to that swap fast enough, which means it's probably not enough to swing a deal even if LA had interest in Farmer. 

Oh, sure, I wasn't suggested a 1:1 deal....just what I'd target in a deal. 

[stringer bell]

48 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Miguel Rojas is not a terrible option at SS. 

My thought was that the Dodgers might be interested in Gordon to fill Rojas’ utility role, with Rojas moving in as the primary SS. 

[KirbyDome89]

12 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Oh, sure, I wasn't suggested a 1:1 deal....just what I'd target in a deal. 

Fair, I just think Farmer would be the sweetener in a swap that has MN receiving a top 100 C prospect, and at that point Idk if the deal makes sense for either side. 

[PseudoSABR]

Deal Farmer when Royce is ready.

[Danchat]

7 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Miguel Rojas is not a terrible option at SS. 

Yup, Rojas was a 2.5 WAR player at SS for Miami last year despite a .605 OPS, and the previous three years combined he was a .732 OPS hitter. He is a fine replacement and Farmer is not an improvement... not to mention, we need him. Gordon is an outfielder who can handle himself at 2B, but is not going to be playing SS again in the majors.

[Fat Calvin]

I wonder what the Dodgers would give up for Correa?

[Mike Sixel]

43 minutes ago, Fat Calvin said:

I wonder what the Dodgers would give up for Correa?

Nothing. They didn't sign him or keep Turner...  

[tony&rodney]

The Dodgers will roll with what they have and look when they feel it necessary. Think June or July.

[specialiststeve]

10 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Gordon isn't a SS, but Farmer going there did immediately pop into my head. Dodgers have TWO catchers in the top 100 prospect list on Fangraphs, btw......

I don't see the Twins doing this, but I'd certainly consider it given their SS "depth" right now.

Would take more than Farmer but Getting Rushing who is LH bat would be ideal. Max and Farmer for Rushing and one of there seemingly endless number of quality arms in the minors... 

[specialiststeve]

52 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

The Dodgers will roll with what they have and look when they feel it necessary. Think June or July.

ZERO chance they don't make a move before opening day. Not going to spend the money they have spent and go with a castoff from the Marlins as their everyday guy. It's LA man.. they will go get something as Lux was questionable there anyway. 

I hate to say it but the Dodgers and the Yankees match up really well.. Yanks have too many middle infielders and Dodgers have a need.

[Mike Sixel]

7 minutes ago, specialiststeve said:

ZERO chance they don't make a move before opening day. Not going to spend the money they have spent and go with a castoff from the Marlins as their everyday guy. It's LA man.. they will go get something as Lux was questionable there anyway. 

I hate to say it but the Dodgers and the Yankees match up really well.. Yanks have too many middle infielders and Dodgers have a need.

Dodgers aren't even projected to win their division....

[specialiststeve]

20 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Dodgers aren't even projected to win their division....

You may be right .. okay not zero percent.. but still not seeing that they will go with what they have .. 

[tony&rodney]

22 hours ago, specialiststeve said:

ZERO chance they don't make a move before opening day. Not going to spend the money they have spent and go with a castoff from the Marlins as their everyday guy. It's LA man.. they will go get something as Lux was questionable there anyway. 

I hate to say it but the Dodgers and the Yankees match up really well.. Yanks have too many middle infielders and Dodgers have a need.

You do know that Rojas had his contract extended, right? The Dodgers traded for Rojas specifically to protect themselves in case of an issue with Lux. Every team looks to upgrade. There are not any shortstops available right now that are better than Rojas,  that I'm aware of.

[LA Vikes Fan]

I started a blog on this earlier today. I said there - 

Kyle Farmer is a starting quality MLB SS will fill a bench role for the Twins this year. While he is valuable in that role, his biggest value might have just come in - as a trade chip to the Dodgers to replace Gavin Lux at SS after Lux tore his ACL yesterday.  The Dodgers other option is 34-year-old Miguel Rojas who they acquired from the Marlins before spring training. You have to think the Dodgers are looking for a starting caliber SS that's locked into a reserve role on another team, particularly one who can be a 1 or 2 year option while Lux recovers or they get a free agent next winter. Voilà! 32-year-old longtime starting SS Kyle Farmer seems to meet all of those criteria.

Interestingly enough, the Dodgers could also use a proven outfielder. They do have Mookie Betts in right, but are looking at an aging Chris Taylor and an unproven  Trayce Thompson to play center with a very unproven James Outman in left. It seems like a respected veteran like Max Kepler might be a good fit.

I think there's a real possibility that Kyle Farmer becomes a trade talking point between the Twins and the Dodgers. It would not surprise me if Kepler is also in the discussion. The Dodgers have a deep farm system particularly in pitching and catching. I do think there's a match. May be a Caleb Ferguson or Andre Jackson might be a good piece for Farmer. Add Kepler and maybe you can get Outman, Landon Knack, or Nick Mastrini or 1 of them plus someone a little farther down the list? Who knows, maybe there's a way to pry Ryan Pepiot away if you offer, Farmer, Kepler and maybe a solid AA guy.

I think there's a real opportunity here for the Twins to trade what are now somewhat redundant pieces - a 32-year-old starting caliber Shortstop who will be relegated to a reserve role for the one year he is with the team and a 30-year-old good fielding, roughly average hitting outfielder for whom there seemed to be adequate replacements. The Dodgers are a win now team that needs both those kinds of players. What you guys think?

I expect the Dodgers to try Rojas and find him wanting. I also expect them to do whatever is necessary to contend so I think they'll be looking by June. Maybe then we can trade farmer with Lewis hopefully on the way?

[Doctor Gast]

LAD had Farmer in their system and they wanted to convert him to catcher. Farmer is an adequate SS but his poor hitting against RHPs, wouldn't make him a good fulltime SS for the Twins much less LAD. And right now we need Farmer and he's not worth much in trade, so I hope we don't trade him immediately.  I agree Gordon isn't a SS.

[old nurse]

8 hours ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

I started a blog on this earlier today. I said there - 

Kyle Farmer is a starting quality MLB SS will fill a bench role for the Twins this year. While he is valuable in that role, his biggest value might have just come in - as a trade chip to the Dodgers to replace Gavin Lux at SS after Lux tore his ACL yesterday.  The Dodgers other option is 34-year-old Miguel Rojas who they acquired from the Marlins before spring training. You have to think the Dodgers are looking for a starting caliber SS that's locked into a reserve role on another team, particularly one who can be a 1 or 2 year option while Lux recovers or they get a free agent next winter. Voilà! 32-year-old longtime starting SS Kyle Farmer seems to meet all of those criteria.

Interestingly enough, the Dodgers could also use a proven outfielder. They do have Mookie Betts in right, but are looking at an aging Chris Taylor and an unproven  Trayce Thompson to play center with a very unproven James Outman in left. It seems like a respected veteran like Max Kepler might be a good fit.

I think there's a real possibility that Kyle Farmer becomes a trade talking point between the Twins and the Dodgers. It would not surprise me if Kepler is also in the discussion. The Dodgers have a deep farm system particularly in pitching and catching. I do think there's a match. May be a Caleb Ferguson or Andre Jackson might be a good piece for Farmer. Add Kepler and maybe you can get Outman, Landon Knack, or Nick Mastrini or 1 of them plus someone a little farther down the list? Who knows, maybe there's a way to pry Ryan Pepiot away if you offer, Farmer, Kepler and maybe a solid AA guy.

I think there's a real opportunity here for the Twins to trade what are now somewhat redundant pieces - a 32-year-old starting caliber Shortstop who will be relegated to a reserve role for the one year he is with the team and a 30-year-old good fielding, roughly average hitting outfielder for whom there seemed to be adequate replacements. The Dodgers are a win now team that needs both those kinds of players. What you guys think?

I expect the Dodgers to try Rojas and find him wanting. I also expect them to do whatever is necessary to contend so I think they'll be looking by June. Maybe then we can trade farmer with Lewis hopefully on the way?

Farmer was acquired for a fringe prospect minor league reliever and is now upgraded to worth a major league worthy prospect.  Nah.

[Trov]

Dodgers will not give up any major talent for Farmer.  I mean look what we gave up for him, nothing earth shattering.  Just because they may feel they have more of a need, does not mean they will give away talent.  They have someone that can fill in just as good as Farmer most likely.  Now, if he starts failing and if Farmer puts up strong numbers, then maybe they would be willing to give up more for a the rental.