dbminn Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Dan Hayes and Jeff Passan report that Nelson Cruz has been traded to the Rays.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 If true, this deal is going to make "who do I cheer for in the postseason" a verryyyyyyy easy decision.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 why Nelson first ugh
AZTwin Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Sounds like we got Drew Strotman. Underwhelmed but expected to be
dbminn Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Author Posted July 22, 2021 Calvin Faucher moving with Cruz to the Rays. Twins get Strotman and Joe Ryan.
lecroy24fan Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 #10 and 17 prospects from TB isn't a bad haul at all.
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Joe Ryan looks to have nice strikeout numbers.
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 wow way to wave the white flag on the season! shameful! ?
dbminn Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Author Posted July 22, 2021 A necessary move for a couple of decent prospects. Still, it sucks. I got a lot of enjoyment from watching Cruz.
AZTwin Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, AZTwin said: Sounds like we got Drew Strotman. Underwhelmed but expected to be Ahhh and we got Joe Ryan. Like the deal. Guys that appear close to the big leagues with solid numbers. Will contribute earlier rather than later. Probably back of the rotation types but that has some value
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Prospects. Whooppee. More hope and dreams prospects. Just what this team doesn't need. Back of the rotation pieces. Isn't that all we already have? We need good and better MLB players. Not prospects. But such is the "box" now, and formula. Did it win a single playoff game yet? I guess one just stays in the box and goes for the 10 year plan again.
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 we need arms arms arms. good start
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tim said: Joe Ryan is a fantastic get, wow. Go on? Why?
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, h2oface said: Prospects. Whooppee. More hope and dreams prospects. Just what this team doesn't need. We need good and better MLB players. Not prospects. I view prospects about as skeptically as anyone here, and even I like this deal. I love watching Cruz hit. He's been fantastic. But he's 41, not signed past this year, and the Twins are going nowhere. It'd be the height of irresponsibility to NOT deal Cruz.
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, USAFChief said: I view prospects about as skeptically as anyone here, and even I like this deal. I love watching Cruz hot. He's been fantastic. But he's 41, not signed past this year, and the Twins are going nowhere. It'd be the height of irresponsibility to NOT deal Cruz. Yup. I agree that Cruz was to be traded. There is a choice of who he is traded for, though. Prospects make for great reading and there is always the yearly prospect book......
Musk21 Community Moderator Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 This is a pretty good article about Joe Ryan. https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/05/24/pitching-prospects-college-joe-ryan-the-opener
Irishman Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Dumbest trade! I’m not impressed with Strotman and Ryan. Who will replace Cruz? Rooker?
Tim Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: Go on? Why? He has a career 2.70 ERA, 217IP, 317k's - 3 minor league seasons. 60 grade fastball that's touched 99mph this year .. Solid slider and the curve has developed, particularly well this season. Doesn't walk many guys, only 10 BB in 60 ip this year .. 6'2 and has been able to stick as a starter.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, h2oface said: Yup. I agree that Cruz was to be traded. There is a choice of who he is traded for, though. Prospects make for great reading and there is always the yearly prospect book...... Here's betting they pitch meaningful innings this year, and definitely next year. That the Twins took older AAA pitching prospects, suggests they still believe their competitive window is open. Not sure who Cruz could have fetched that's already ML productive, and has value going forward. Those are the kind of players a contender wouldn't want to give up, esp. for a rental.
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Musk21 said: This is a pretty good article about Joe Ryan. https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/05/24/pitching-prospects-college-joe-ryan-the-opener OK, I like him. I'm all in now. Great article. He could be way more fun than most.
Irishman Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tim said: He has a career 2.70 ERA, 217IP, 317k's - 3 minor league seasons. 60 grade fastball that's touched 99mph this year .. Solid slider and the curve has developed, particularly well this season. Doesn't walk many guys, only 10 BB in 60 ip this year .. 6'2 and has been able to stick as a starter. His records in 3 minor league seasons mean nothing to me. Wait and see how he pitches in major league games.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 More Cruz trade discussion under the article here: https://twinsdaily.com/forums/topic/52592-twins-trade-nelson-cruz-to-the-rays-for-two-aaa-starting-pitchers/
tony&rodney Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 I preferred Nelson Cruz in the Twins lineup .... wish him well.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 46 minutes ago, dbminn said: Calvin Faucher moving with Cruz to the Rays. Twins get Strotman and Joe Ryan. Hah. Faucher is actually someone I wanted to see the Twins promote or develop. Oh well he is going to a great organization now.
Tibs Verified Member Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Sad to see Nelson Cruz go. He was a lot of fun to watch during his time here. I am very excited for the return. Two AAA SPs with potential for half a season of Nelson Cruz is fantastic.
RickOShea Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tibs said: Sad to see Nelson Cruz go. He was a lot of fun to watch during his time here. I am very excited for the return. Two AAA SPs with potential for half a season of Nelson Cruz is fantastic. Hopefully, we'll see Cruz in 2022. Who knows, we may resign him. Seriously doubt it, though.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, Musk21 said: This is a pretty good article about Joe Ryan. https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/05/24/pitching-prospects-college-joe-ryan-the-opener Great find! Highly recommended article. Promising pitcher.
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