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These two games against the BoSox ... playoff baseball ... that's what that was.

Garver catching a great game for 17 innings I think should make up for his couple blunders plus he also did score 1 of the 3 Twins runs

Give Garver a little credit.   Dude caught 17 innings, though he may have been a main cause for it.    Hats off to the bullpen.   

 

The STrib recap says Kepler pinch hit for a "banged up" Gonzalez. I was wondering last night why he pinch hit.

Hopefully nothing serious.

Yikes. Even given the team's depth, they kinda need Gonzalez right now with Adrianza out and Sano windmilling at the plate like a drunken ballerina.

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It obviously worked out, but why have Kepler hit for Gonzales when he could have subbed in for Sano?

Then on the center fielder's "catch", why did "Richard" keep saying he made such a great catch when it was obvious he bobbled it off the wall?  It wasn't a catch at all!

There were two outs and a runner in scoring position when Kepler pinch hit for Gonzalez. Maybe if Garver doesn’t get picked earlier and there is one out with Gonzalez up he pinch hits for Sano.

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"WPA of +0.1: Kepler .847, Littell .288, Magill .288, Duffey .288, Rosario .263, Pineda .235, Rogers .144, Parker .144

 

"WPA of -0.1: Harper -.129, Schoop -.161, Cave -.165, Cron -.228, Garver -.240, Morin -.289, Polanco -.294, Sano -.433"

 

Wow! Kepler (et al.) giveth and Sano (et al.) taketh away!

 

Here's a question for someone with more energy than I: The WPA for the whole team (in a win) adds up to 0.5, increasing from an initial 0.5 to 1.0.

 

Adding up the absolute values of just these players yields 4.142! Adding in the other players not shown here gives 4.349. This must be close to a record, but does anyone know what the record is?

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I am sad to say I gave up at the top of the 13th and told my wife "The Twins lost." and went to bed. Little did I know they would get their ffirst walkoff win, probably an hour later!

 

Kudos to Garver behind-the-plate. Yes, getting picked off third was a rookie mistake (or can a coach also get some blame). Nevertheless, a wonderful game.

 

Two things, though:

Miguel Sano. All the talent in the world, but he just swings, and pitchers know where to throw the ball to get him to swing. What would happen if management forced him to NOT swing at the first two pitches...no matter what? Well, he would, at worst, be in the same hole he seems to put himself in, or he may be staring at a two ball count forcing the opposing starter to throw a real strike.

Blake Parker. Not sure how much more I can stand watching him twitch and pump. He escaped last night. But from a wonderkind, to making me wish for the return fast of Hildenberger. The Twins have a bunch of glasses waiting to break: Morin is pure situational matchup. Duffey is still a scare. Magill is not who I stand-up-and-cheer when he enters a game.

 

Kudos to Littell. Now who takes the shuttle back to Rochester, or are the Twins hoping for a GREAT start from Gibson and could use May and Harper and possibly Rogers tonight.

 

A real battle of a game. Glad the Twins won this one and the Indians are still 10 games back. I start to shake when I think of it being a 9 game lead, or 8, or 7, or 6.

 

Hey, we got a home run! Streak starts over!

 

Bench for Thursday: Garver, Schoop, Sano (or maybe one of those three switches out with Cruz).

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Twenty four hour moratorium on making fun of the bullpen, folks.

Reliever trust ranking:

 

Trust

Rogers

 

Basically Trust

Harper

 

Somewhat Trust

Duffey, May

 

Don’t Trust, Has Been Good So Far

Morin

 

Don’t Trust, Has Been Iffy

Parker

 

Don’t Trust, Has Been Bad

Hildenberger, Magill, Mejia

 

Want To Trust, But Too New

Littell, Eades

 

Never Want To See Pitch Ever Again

De Jong, Vasquez

Thanks. I really did laugh out loud. My wife said,"What????" I said, 'I just read something funny." Edited by Aerodeliria
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Apparently Eddie didn't actually break any rules on that bunt. Cora says he's sorry for whining

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/heres-rule-had-alex-cora-hopping-mad-until-he-realized-umpires-hadnt-gotten-it-wrong-after

 

Cora's a punk ... Even if you don't agree with a call, you don't attempt to assault the umpires after the game .... He should be suspended .... Apology is a cop out ... Learn the rules .... I can guarantee Baldelli would never behave that way

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What a great win. Kepler. Wow. Regarding Garver, I am sure he isn't giving himself a break for being a bonehead, and in the 6th, or whatever inning it was, there was no 17 innings in the picture. No need to baby him. He knows, and so does everybody that watched it. That cannot happen. By not pretending it is ok, he will get better for it. Garver is a stud, but no reason to diminish what happened because he played the whole game that he loves. He is a big boy. He can own it, and so can we. One could say it is his own fault the game couldn't be decided in 9.

Would be nice to see the bats wake up tomorrow.

First of all huge props to Magill and Littell along with the entire pen since the entire pen pitched.    Regardless of all the criticism this is a pen that often bends but rarely breaks so far (knock on wood)..   In further review I give Garver a bit of a break on this one.   The release was really quick, and the throw was a rocket right where it needed to be.   Garver was too close to dive back and wasn't very far off the bag at all which made the element of surprise more effective.    I think that throw picks off a lot of major leaguers and that contention is supported by the audio on mlb.    The Boston announcers said the Sox are making it a thing this year to pick guys off third which makes me think they have done it several times already.   Kind of reminds me of a Jazz play that worked for a while.   Stockton would cut through the lane and his defender was all over him.   Since he was completely blanketed there was no reason to think the wing would pass to him but the defenders back was to the ball so the pass only needed to miss the defender to get through.  It was a set play because Stockton was expecting it and would get the layup.    This like the pickoff can only work so long before players get wise to it but I have revised my opinion and give Boston more credit and Garver a little less blame.

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I'm not gonna get down on Garver at all for this game. Not one iota. 17 innings behind the plate, and our pitchers did what? Garver deserves praise, even if he did get picked off third.

I still want to know why the 3rd base coach didn't notice the 3rd base getting in behind Garver.

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I didn't notice the Red Sox broadcasters taking quite that POV. We're still the upstarts and are excited by being in contention.

 

Yeah, but as insecure as we are with a 10 game lead and the best record in baseball this game was way bigger for the Red Sox who are in 3rd place and 6.5 games back.   As long as this game was, whenever the camera panned the Boston dugout you could tell the players and coaches were really into this game and wanted the win badly.

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From Boston

 

Vazquez -.474

Martinez -.423

 

I don’t know if Vazquez or the pitcher get credit for the pick of Garver. It should be Vazquez but I wonder if it is the pitcher.

 

I know that Sano does not get WPA credit for his game saving play at 3B in the 10th inning. I don’t think Gonzalez makes that play.

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Yesterday was Tuesday, June 18 and it was the 72nd game of the year.  The Twins are now 44%  of the way through the season.  Out of 59 years, the current team ranks 28th on the all-time list of Twins' home runs in one season and are on a pace to hit 311 home runs this season.

 

On a side note, I live in Maine so I have to watch the game with the Red Sox announcers.  Cruel punishment.  Lots of bitching about the "out of the batter's box" non-call in the 17th.  But here is my note:  I set my DVR to record six hours last night and I finished watching this morning.  The game ended at 5 hours and 56 minutes.  Thank you Max.

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Any video on Cora's "out-of-character" tirade after the game?

I saw it on MLB.com but at the time I didn't know what happened to cause him to go ballistic. I also saw Eddie's bunt attempt. He wasn't even close to stepping out of the box, and as play had occurred earlier, I couldn't figure out why he was running around screaming. I thought he was claiming Kepler's hit was foul or something, but he was still harping on Rosie's bunt.

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Nice job by the 'pen - but they did give up 12 hits in 10 innings of work. Out of 8 relievers, only Rogers didn't give up a hit. They were tightroping it - Red Sox are a great hitting team though. Glad they got it done!

 

Also 12 Ks to 1 BB .... I still want some moves to shore it up, but there are some promising options .... Duffey and Littell definitely need longer looks

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When Baldelli sees a shift where the entire infield is on one side and playing deep, why isn't he calling for a bunt?

I've been screaming for this to happen for years now. A standup double. From a bunt. I knew it would happen but MLB players are irrationally resistant to trying it.

 

It's kind of infuriating, really. This is perhaps the easiest bunt in the world to attempt. All you need to do is keep the ball fair and bunt as hard as you frickin' can. No soft hands needed; in fact, you want the opposite. Doesn't matter if it's on the ground or in the air, just get the damned ball 100+ feet and you're standing on second base.

 

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My assumption was that they would need to call up someone, but as I look at it, I’m not sure they need to. Everyone pitched, but no one more than 30 innings. Parker is the only guy who pitched on the last two days, and that was only a total of 34 pitches. There’s really not anyone who isn’t available for at least a couple batters. Now if several guys get used for a good number of pitches tonight...

They do have an off day tomorrow. Perhaps they can slide by today, especially if Gibson gives them more than 6 innings. The fact is that Duffey and Littell both pitched well and shouldn't be sent out on merit, but sometimes merit doesn't have anything to do with transactions.

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