Mike Frasier Law Verified Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Joe's numbers are bad this year. There's no sugar coating it. But, as a true believer, I always find ways to believe in Joe. Here's 2017's version. Joe's hitting more fly balls. This is one of the first stats to stabilize (no complaints about small sample sizes). This is very good if they aren't pop-ups. Right now, he's hitting 36.5% ground balls - his career rate is 50%. nearly 42% of his hits are fly balls. Joe's hitting the ball hard. His hard hit percentage is at 36.5%. Career is at 33.3%. His average exit velocity ain't Sano's, but it is 89.9 mph - good for 60th in the league. Joe's insane plate discipline is insaner. He's swinging at 19% of pitches out of zone (league average 29.1%)he's hitting 88.6% of the out-of-zone pitches he hits (league average 62.5%) for in-zone, he's swinging at 47.5% and hitting 97.7%!! League average is 66.7% swinging and 85.5% contact. It's all very weird that he's not getting results. My prediction: huge month of May.340/380/450/830
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Thanks for the hope, Mike! Hope all is well with the practice.
Oldgoat_MN Verified Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 While I think your prediction for May is wildly optimistic, his BABIP over the last two years is slightly above .305. His BABIP is currently sitting at .243 for 2017. I don't think those lazy fly balls to the LF are going to start falling, but he's doing too many things right not to have his numbers improve.Go Joe!
bizaff Provisional Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I've seen a few things that give me hope, maybe it's trying to be too optimistic. In the last week there's been 2 hard hit balls pulled to right field. If he can keep doing that, the outfield will have to spread out again and more of his line (ish) drives to left-center will drop. He also hit a hot grounder to the 1st base side of second base through a hole there. If he can keep adjusting to the fielding adjustments, he may at least head in the right direction.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Actually, it isn't surprising at all that a guy who is swinging at less than half of the pitches thrown to him in the strike zone is struggling. A guy who falls behind in the count is going to have to hit a pitcher's pitch. Sure, Mauer still has good enough hand eye coordination to make contact and even to put a good swing on a good chunk of them. But when you are forced into swinging at that pitcher's pitch you are playing into his hands. As a result, a batter is more apt to hit the ball into a shift. True great hitters aren't as predictable as Mauer. He showed some unpredictability in his last few games and, surprise surprise, got results.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 A title like this and not even one reference to how devilishly handsome he is? Tsk, tsk....
D. Hocking Verified Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 In the last week there's been 2 hard hit balls pulled to right field. If he can keep doing that, the outfield will have to spread out again and more of his line (ish) drives to left-center will drop. I heard them say that equaled the number of balls hit to right field the previous two seasons. If he can do that even occasionally, it will help deflate some of the effectiveness of the split. On another homer type not - his defense is not looking too shabby.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I've seen him pull a couple of balls ito RF n the air and that gives me hope. If he can turn on a few more balls and force the other team to get out of that heavy shift to left field as a result.... We could see a glimpse of the Ole Joe. Joe still has the sweet swing and plate discipline to be one of the best. However... if he still continues to fly to left and ground to right... like he is stuck in some hopeless pattern....We won't see the old Joe back.
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Joe's numbers are bad this year. There's no sugar coating it. But, as a true believer, I always find ways to believe in Joe. Here's 2017's version. Joe's hitting more fly balls. This is one of the first stats to stabilize (no complaints about small sample sizes). This is very good if they aren't pop-ups. Right now, he's hitting 36.5% ground balls - his career rate is 50%. nearly 42% of his hits are fly balls. Joe's hitting the ball hard. His hard hit percentage is at 36.5%. Career is at 33.3%. His average exit velocity ain't Sano's, but it is 89.9 mph - good for 60th in the league. Joe's insane plate discipline is insaner. He's swinging at 19% of pitches out of zone (league average 29.1%)he's hitting 88.6% of the out-of-zone pitches he hits (league average 62.5%) for in-zone, he's swinging at 47.5% and hitting 97.7%!! League average is 66.7% swinging and 85.5% contact. It's all very weird that he's not getting results. My prediction: huge month of May.340/380/450/830 The concerning part is that .830 OPS would be considered a huge month, although I find it difficult to believe his OBP would only be 40 points higher than his BA if he batted .340.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 The concerning part is that .830 OPS would be considered a huge month, although I find it difficult to believe his OBP would only be 40 points higher than his BA if he batted .340.Going from memory, that's actually pretty common from Joe. When he gets rolling, he stops walking. I think most hitters kinda do that, now that I think of it.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Wrote this on the subject about a week ago: Is Twins' 1B Joe Mauer about to have a breakthrough season? No need to repeat the same arguments, here, but several signs point to yes.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 By Statcast, Joe does indeed appear to have been unlucky so far: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2017/4/29/15478698/statcast-xwoba-gap-woba-luck-leaderboard-manny-machado-bryce-harper-eric-thames Of course, some of those guys on the bad luck list might just be poor hitters at this point in their careers... Note that Aaron Hicks is among the luckiest hitters so far by Statcast data.
Mike Frasier Law Verified Member Posted May 2, 2017 Author Posted May 2, 2017 Wrote this on the subject about a week ago: Is Twins' 1B Joe Mauer about to have a breakthrough season? No need to repeat the same arguments, here, but several signs point to yes. By Statcast, Joe does indeed appear to have been unlucky so far:http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2017/4/29/15478698/statcast-xwoba-gap-woba-luck-leaderboard-manny-machado-bryce-harper-eric-thamesOf course, some of those guys on the bad luck list might just be poor hitters at this point in their careers...Note that Aaron Hicks is among the luckiest hitters so far by Statcast data. So I'm not the only one, eh? Let's hope his luck catches up with his line drives
Tibs Verified Member Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Yeah he's definitely a good looking dude Oh yeah baseball stuff
Mike Frasier Law Verified Member Posted May 8, 2017 Author Posted May 8, 2017 One week in - how's my prediction? I predicted 340/380/450/830actual 313/450/688/1138
Oldgoat_MN Verified Member Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 One week in - how's my prediction? I predicted 340/380/450/830actual 313/450/688/1138Clearly you are a pessimist.I don't know why you Mauer haters always undersell him!P.S. please ignore comment #3.
Mike Frasier Law Verified Member Posted May 21, 2017 Author Posted May 21, 2017 Three weeks in. How is joe doing? I predicted 340/380/450/830Actual 319/407/489/896
Oxtung Verified Member Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 Look at the great insight that the new technology installed in stadiums can bring to the table. I sure wish more of it was available to the public. I think the fielding data in particular could really revolutionize our understanding of the game. What good defense is has always been a bit nebulous. It would really help the quest to consolidate a players overall value into one statistic. We need more analysis like yours, Mike, on this site.
Darius Verified Member Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Nice prediction. Now, just imagine if he could burn a few of those huge OF shifts, and force teams to respect right field and play him more straight up. I think that's where jumping on the first pitch could do him some good, when they're just trying to get ahead. Once they get ahead, they pick at that outer half and try to get him to go into the shift. I'm sure thats a revolutionary idea that Joe has never considered or been thought of in the past.
Mike Frasier Law Verified Member Posted June 1, 2017 Author Posted June 1, 2017 Well, I predicted a huge May, but I missed the mark. I predicted 340/380/450/830Actual: 346/442/531/983 My prediction was based on some crazy good peripherals. Have they changed much? STAT APRIL MAY CAREER LEAGUE AVERAGEGB% 36.5% 50.8% 50% 44.5%hardhit% 36.5% 35.4% 33.3% 31.9%Exit Velo. 89.9mph 91.9Oswing% 19% 20.1% 22% 29.2%ocontact% 88.6% 73.3% 76.8% 62.7%zswing% 47.5% 47.5% 55.1% 66.5%zcontact% 97.7% 94.3% 92.2% 85.5% Interestingly, it looks like he's regressed a little in May, but the results are way better.He's hitting the ball harder, but also hitting more ground balls. His ground ball percentage is the only one worse than league average. His exit velocity is 47th overall (Sano is at an easy 100.0mph). My guess for June: 325/390/455/845
spinowner Provisional Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 You should have stopped off in Vegas on May 1 and found a sports book somewhere that would have taken you up on your prediction. Not too late for June, I suppose.
PopRiveter Verified Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 It's all very weird that he's not getting results. My prediction: huge month of May.340/380/450/830I'm impressed. You made a pretty bold prediction based on really sound logic, and nailed it. You're hired. Looking at the numbers you posted, it seems to indicate he maybe swung a tad harder in May, but mostly just trusted his approach and it paid off.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 Man, if he can keep this up (maybe not at this pace) but end the season above a .840 OPS, I think that almost guarantees his place in the hall of fame.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 He looked so EXCITED after the triple play!* *note, I don't care, but it seemed funny to me for some reason.
Linus Verified Member Posted June 3, 2017 Posted June 3, 2017 Seems appropriate to note Joe's night. 4-5 with a homer. I'm starting to believe he is a different hitter.
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted June 3, 2017 Posted June 3, 2017 Joe Mauer is playing gold glove defense at first base, and he has raised his season average to .294 with a scorching hot May. This is the closest we've seen to a fully healthy Mauer in several years. He looks confident and strong at the plate. Yay!
Darius Verified Member Posted June 3, 2017 Posted June 3, 2017 The last month has been vintage Joe Mauer. If he can keep hitting this way, it could end up being one of the better seasons of his career. That makes this a scary lineup, potentially. It's not out of the question for Dozier and Buxton to get hot like they did last year. Throw that in a lineup with the current production of Mauer, Sano, and Kepler....toss in a steady .250-.260 with pop from Rosario and Polanco....and that's pretty ridiculous.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 3, 2017 Posted June 3, 2017 Great production from Mauer in recent weeks. It's great to see and I hope he keeps it up. This kind of Mauer really helps the lineup. I'm surprised, but glad to be. I hope to be flabbergasted by season's end.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted June 3, 2017 Posted June 3, 2017 Seems appropriate to note Joe's night. 4-5 with a homer. I'm starting to believe he is a different hitter.I'm starting to believe that maybe it really was concussion issues and he's finally through to the other side. But I'll revisit at the end of the season. That said, he's really quite the first baseman. His defense has really carried the youngsters over on the left side of the infield.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted June 3, 2017 Posted June 3, 2017 Great production from Mauer in recent weeks. It's great to see and I hope he keeps it up. This kind of Mauer really helps the lineup.I'm surprised, but glad to be. I hope to be flabbergasted by season's end.I hope you are flabbergasted at end of season, too!
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