Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Per Jeff Passan... I figured this one deserved its own thread.
ashbury Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 That lob into the center field seats seemed to get a message across.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 31, 2019 Author Posted July 31, 2019 Puig to Cleveland... We've heard Trammel from Reds to Padres.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Puig will be appearing at Target Field. Kepler will be crushed to hear this news.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 31, 2019 Author Posted July 31, 2019 Franmil Reyes and Logan Allen to Cleveland...
jkcarew Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 I like this deal for Cleveland. Which is to say, I don’t like this deal.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 So the 2 biggest buyers so far have been teams well under .500. This is the most bizarre deadline I can recall.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 31, 2019 Author Posted July 31, 2019 Cleveland got better tonight. They've got pitching (even aside from Salazar coming back, they have guys like Plutko, Plesac, etc. They needed offense. They got two good-hitting outfielders and a solid LHP. Cincinnati to an ace. And San Diego added a top 30-40 prospect to add to their elite farm system without giving up any of their core.
Dman Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Cleveland just got the HR power they have needed for a while now. I sure hope our pitching is good enough to match those guys as their lineup just improved a lot.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 The Cincinnati Reds have made more win now trades in the last calendar year than the Twins have in a decade.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Will San Diego spin Trammel to the Mets for Thor?
Dantes929 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Cleveland got better tonight. They've got pitching (even aside from Salazar coming back, they have guys like Plutko, Plesac, etc. They needed offense. They got two good-hitting outfielders and a solid LHP. Cincinnati to an ace. And San Diego added a top 30-40 prospect to add to their elite farm system without giving up any of their core. I agree but it still baffles me that the Indians and I am mostly guessing other teams also had such under performing outfielders and Denard Span is still sitting at home. At least tonight's games went according to script. Indians playing tougher team and loses. Twins playing easier team and wins. Hopefully this trend continues for a while.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 The Cincinnati Reds have made more win now trades in the last calendar year than the Twins have in a decade.Funny because it's true!
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Is Franmil Reyes any good, because I'm wondering why are the Padres shipping him and a 22 year old pitching prospect to Cleveland so that they can get a single prospect from Cincy? Is this Trammel guy pretty good? I don't think this is a bad move for Cleveland, not sure if 2 months of Puig will do them much good, but if Reyes develops they'll win the trade. And I guess the Reds are 'going for it' in 2020? Huh... weird.
Blake Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Consider: The Dodgers got rid of Puig and less than a year later, he's in Cleveland. Sort of a last gasp desperation move by Cleveland, far as I'm concerned. Looking at Puig's numbers, they're okay but not stellar. We shall see what happens.
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Amir Garrett didn't take the news well. https://twitter.com/FlyByKnite
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 I think Cleveland is better now, especially if their injured pitchers return and are good.... unfortunately.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Cleveland got better tonight.concur. They most certainly got better in 2019 tonight. Your move, Falvine.
Brandon Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Cleveland got better tonight. They've got pitching (even aside from Salazar coming back, they have guys like Plutko, Plesac, etc. They needed offense. They got two good-hitting outfielders and a solid LHP. Cincinnati to an ace. And San Diego added a top 30-40 prospect to add to their elite farm system without giving up any of their core. so San Diego gives up a guy with 27 HRs this year and 43 in 577 career at bats and a pitching prospect for an OF prospect. How does this help them. The prospect is in AA and young for the league meaning he wont likely be up till next season towards the end of the season.
dbminn Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Cleveland got better tonight. They've got pitching (even aside from Salazar coming back, they have guys like Plutko, Plesac, etc. They needed offense. They got two good-hitting outfielders and a solid LHP. Cincinnati to an ace. And San Diego added a top 30-40 prospect to add to their elite farm system without giving up any of their core. You nailed it, Seth. Reyes and Puig are serious upgrades where Cleveland needed them. You can trade from you roster if you improve positions of need. It's risky but I think it was worth it for them.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 so San Diego gives up a guy with 27 HRs this year and 43 in 577 career at bats and a pitching prospect for an OF prospect. How does this help them. The prospect is in AA and young for the league meaning he wont likely be up till next season towards the end of the season.It helps them because they're building for the future, they aren't trying to win this year. They now have 5 of the top 50 prospects in baseball (pipeline).
dbminn Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Is Franmil Reyes any good, because I'm wondering why are the Padres shipping him and a 22 year old pitching prospect to Cleveland so that they can get a single prospect from Cincy? Is this Trammel guy pretty good? I don't think this is a bad move for Cleveland, not sure if 2 months of Puig will do them much good, but if Reyes develops they'll win the trade. And I guess the Reds are 'going for it' in 2020? Huh... weird. Puig has been borderline excellent the past two months, with an OPS north of .930. Reyes is really good but the Padres have a ton of players that need to be on the 40 man roster. They also have a surplus of major league-ready OF. The Reds can now go with Castillo, Bauer and Gray as their front three next year. That's a serious start to the rotation. They have several developing good SP that will fill out the rest. They still need OF. Maybe the Twins can score Lorenzen or Iglesias with a deal that includes Jaylin Davis and others.
Brandon Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Well if we end up with Thor and a reliever without giving up anyone of consequence on the current 25 man roster....Then we will improve more than Cleveland where it counts the most.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 And I guess the Reds are 'going for it' in 2020? Huh... weird.To quote Chief, you acquire good talent when you can. Worst case they have a great rental to dangle at next year's deadline at the cost of a prospect and 2 months of Puig.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Maybe the Twins can make a trade with the Reds now?
Dantes929 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 How can Cleveland trade away Bauer? I thought Kepler owned him.
jkcarew Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Reyes needed to be an American League player...and soon....that is to say he’ll be a DH. Liability in the OF...and SD must not see a budding first-baseman in him either. But he can hit...and he’s likely to get better.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Amir Garrett didn't take the news well. https://twitter.com/FlyByKniteHere's the specific tweet
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Reyes looks like a nice young OF with big power and really bad defense. He's a better fit in the AL. Logan Allen will probably go back to AAA but he's a back end top 100 type with high floor but lower ceiling. Nice get for Cleveland
SwainZag Community Moderator Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Long term I would rather see the Indians with Reyes than Bauer, even though it didn't look like they would extend him anyways.
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