NEWS: Twins Hire Rays Minor-League Coach Brian Reith as New Pitching Coach

[AceWrigley]

I'm a Twins fan, I can comment, if I have to, I guess.

[AceWrigley]

1 hour ago, 1985Fan said:

Wrong good sir… That is a Groucho Marx quote from his tv show that I cant recall the name of now. 

You Bet Your Life.

[1985Fan]

9 minutes ago, AceWrigley said:

You Bet Your Life.

Thats it. Good recall. 

[TheLeviathan]

If nothing else.....I'm happy they made a quick, decisive move.

[Vanimal46]

4 hours ago, ashbury said:

Not being qualified to comment, I have no opinion on this or any move.

I’m old enough to remember when you could Ask Jeeves a topic and the first page of search results were academic research papers on the subject 

[ashbury]

9 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

I’m old enough to remember when you could Ask Jeeves a topic and the first page of search results were academic research papers on the subject 

I'm old enough to remember going to the library, and looking at the research papers in person, in order to form an opinion on a topic.

[SF Twins Fan]

I wonder if he and Joe Ryan crossed paths in the minor leagues?

[Linus]

43 minutes ago, ashbury said:

I'm old enough to remember going to the library, and looking at the research papers in person, in order to form an opinion on a topic.

Stone tablets?

[MeleMouth]

As a serious comment, which I'm totally 100% absolutely competent to give, this hiring is fine, but the MLB pitching coach is just the tip of the iceberg for getting good prospects and developing them to succeed in the majors.

The Twins during the Falvey era were good at identifying talent, but most of the talent they gathered seemed to either top out at AA or find another level or two when they went to other teams, often after being discarded by the Twins for nothing or close to it.

Hopefully the new pitching coach is given authority to change the entire development program. 

[IndianaTwin]

1 hour ago, ashbury said:

I'm old enough to remember going to the library, and looking at the research papers in person, in order to form an opinion on a topic.

Walking uphill both ways, barefoot and through snow, I presume?

[Vanimal46]

35 minutes ago, MeleMouth said:

Hopefully the new pitching coach is given authority to change the entire development program. 

If Jeremy Zoll isn’t in charge of the development program, or the direction the MLB team is going per Tom P, well…

[AlLagoon]

Tampa Bay won the AL East and is  competing for an AL title with one of the lowest payrolls in the game.

They drafted and developed the Twins best pitchers, Ryan. and Bradley.

Gimme anything that comes from that organization, and more!

[twinssporto]

2 hours ago, ashbury said:

I'm old enough to remember going to the library, and looking at the research papers in person, in order to form an opinion on a topic.

I was in the micro phish (SP?) era. Was that before or after you?

[ashbury]

26 minutes ago, twinssporto said:

Was that before or after you?

Yes.™

 

(But yeah, microfiche was the way to scan through lots of newspapers etc.)

[S Bart]

It would be helpful if he could bring a "Crash Davis" with him from Durham to mentor the pitchers.  

 

 

 

[DataNerd]

5 hours ago, TNtwins85 said:

 Would tend to agree. And the last point of drafting absolute studs those tend to come in the 1st round unless you can develop them. Too many 2nd, 3rd round HS pitchers getting hurt or never developing and spending 1st round picks on the Lewis’, Larnachs and Cavaco’s of the world. They didn’t pan out either. That’s a lose lose. I really wanted them to take Flora this last draft. Big risk big reward on top tier 1st round pitchers. Also big risk big reward on position players that have mostly been 30-50% outcomes. 

In terms of hitter/pitcher in a vacuum I would disagree; of the top 20 SP by fWAR, 4 were taken top 10 and another 3 were later 1st round picks, while there were 6 guys taken outside the top 100 (Schlitter, Cease, Skubal, Rasmussen, deGrom, Woo).  But we are average at drafting/developing hitters, so it could make sense to lean into our strength in a draft where we weren't passing up on a guy like Lackey.