Nshore Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 5 minutes ago, karcherd said: Again let's see them do this with the more experienced players than I will believe there is change. Bell should not be at 1B ever again and he is there today. Outman and Kreidler are on this roster as backups to Buxton yet it is Clemens in CF again. I am not sure there has been a lot of change. The kids always have the short leash, except Keaschall this year and the "vets" are not held accountable. That's a good point about Outman and Kreidler. They're paying a big price to carry guys like that who can't hit. And at least in Outman's case who's sole purpose is to back up Buxton - and then don't use them to back up Buxton. Not for the first time, it really makes you wonder if they know what they're doing. DocBauer, Hunter4848, HarmonK03 and 1 other 4
darin617 Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, The Great Hambino said: If they weren't willing to spend any more than they did in the offseason, then I find it hard to believe they'd be willing to eat his salary during the season, especially since it isn't like there's a roster crunch blocking anyone banging on the door from coming up right now with all the injuries He wasn't making millions of dollars. Wedman13 1
Brett Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Is Culpepper on the 40 man? Asking for a couple of range-challenged friends who play near SS… weitz41 1
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Seth Stohs said: Not much surprises me anymore, but this one was shocking. That's very surprising. Makes little sense, unless he requested it. I expect there'll be more tiers to this story. He said all the right things after being told he'd start with no notice, and helping the team. But that might have been the straw, not that the camel had much left.
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 4 minutes ago, Brett said: Is Culpepper on the 40 man? Asking for a couple of range-challenged friends who play near SS… We have 38 on it, so that's not the holdup. Richie the Rally Goat and Danchat 2
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Peter said: Why???? Huge mistake DFAing SWR!!! 👎👎👎😡😤🤬 Why not? Church of Kreidler, Mike Sixel, Wedman13 and 1 other 3 1
The Great Hambino Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 17 minutes ago, darin617 said: He wasn't making millions of dollars. I was responding to a comment about DFA'ing Bell, who is, in fact, making millions of dollars
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 I like this move, in part because if the message. This isn’t Rocco’s home of infinite patience any more. You get a chance but you need to produce. SWR was the worst regular starting pitcher in MLB this year and his lack of a dominant pitch made him an unlikely bullpen piece. If he’s claimed, maybe we can trade him for some other team’s project. For those of you wondering about Keaschall, he’s hitting .248/.353/.337 over the last 30, better over the last 7, and playing better defense. I agree that he’s close to the edge, but he hasn’t completely failed like the other three so he needs a little more time. I would like to see the same treatment of vets. Losing Topa and Garcia was a good first step. Bell should be next even if that means bringing up GG or Fedko. Culpepper should be up soon instead of Outman with Kreidler the backup CF. This year is for development and churn. It won’t be pretty or easy but it has to be done. Wizard11, Mike Sixel, Patzky and 11 others 13 1
Glorybound Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 So many things involved here that the average fan just has no real idea what all went into this decision. I have no idea how coachable SWR really is. Personalities matter when performance isn’t measuring up and we just don’t know the behind the scenes stuff. The poor guy had a tape worm surgically removed last season. He actually pitched effectively once he got back from that. This year not so much. ToddlerHarmon 1
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Per Bobby Nightengale: Derek Shelton said the Twins decided to DFA Simeon Woods Richardson because they were short on bullpen arms today. Shelton added they would’ve liked more time to evaluate SWR in bullpen. “Sometimes there ends up being an odd man out, and it ended up being Sim.” https://www.startribune.com/twins-put-pitcher-simeon-woods-richardson-on-waivers-call-up-john-klein/601851060 Dman 1
Sampson5 Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 If your gonna dfa him then we expect bell to be given the same energy considering he's been terrible since hit hot start after that 1st few series he's been unplayable yet somehow still batting clean up consistently... Mike Sixel 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 9 minutes ago, thelanges5 said: Per Bobby Nightengale: Derek Shelton said the Twins decided to DFA Simeon Woods Richardson because they were short on bullpen arms today. Shelton added they would’ve liked more time to evaluate SWR in bullpen. “Sometimes there ends up being an odd man out, and it ended up being Sim.” https://www.startribune.com/twins-put-pitcher-simeon-woods-richardson-on-waivers-call-up-john-klein/601851060 Option a guy. Seriously. Also, they refuse to do this with awful hitters that have never been good. I can't wait for this team to be sold and new management. Richie the Rally Goat, Parfigliano, glunn and 4 others 7
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 8 minutes ago, Sampson5 said: If your gonna dfa him then we expect bell to be given the same energy considering he's been terrible since hit hot start after that 1st few series he's been unplayable yet somehow still batting clean up consistently... This. 100000000 times this. But he's a veteran! Proven! TheLeviathan 1
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 2 hours ago, Shaitan said: is it really necessary to put BREAKING in all the headlines? BROKEN removes all hope. Parfigliano, D.C Twins, Richie the Rally Goat and 3 others 1 5
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 I....what? There is no rational reason not just option someone instead of this? KirbyDome89, Mike Sixel and Danchat 3
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 8 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said: I....what? There is no rational reason not just option someone instead of this? No options left TheLeviathan 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Just now, Patzky said: No options left Option someone else.....or DFA one of the terrible bullpen guys who isn't part of the future potentially. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 This is a very win now move .... Unless there is something wrong physically..... That can't be fixed. But at least we have a bunch of old guys who aren't part of the future! Parfigliano, Danchat and weitz41 1 2
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Nshore said: That's a good point about Outman and Kreidler. They're paying a big price to carry guys like that who can't hit. And at least in Outman's case who's sole purpose is to back up Buxton - and then don't use them to back up Buxton. Not for the first time, it really makes you wonder if they know what they're doing. Narrator Voice: They don't. ToddlerHarmon and Richie the Rally Goat 1 1
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 18 minutes ago, Patzky said: No options left I appreciate that, but then why not option someone who wouldn't be available today? Or someone with options?
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 19 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: Option someone else.....or DFA one of the terrible bullpen guys who isn't part of the future potentially. While I would normally agree with you, who is that? Adams has already been optioned and the rest of the guys like Morris, Orze, and Gomez are part of the future bullpen hopefully. You could DFA Taylor Rogers I guess but I don’t see a lot of other candidates. Funderburk just came up and Banda has actually been good lately. I don’t think losing SWR is going to turn out to be a big loss. In fact, I would not be surprised if he is not claimed on waivers since he has no options left. I could also see him being claimed by a team desperate for starting pitching, pitching lousy there, and getting waived again. Hopefully he won’t get claimed and we wind up trying to work out his issues in Saint Paul. Jeff K, Wedman13, Wizard11 and 4 others 6 1
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, LA Vikes Fan said: I like this move, in part because if the message. This isn’t Rocco’s home of infinite patience any more. You get a chance but you need to produce. SWR was the worst regular starting pitcher in MLB this year and his lack of a dominant pitch made him an unlikely bullpen piece. If he’s claimed, maybe we can trade him for some other team’s project. For those of you wondering about Keaschall, he’s hitting .248/.353/.337 over the last 30, better over the last 7, and playing better defense. I agree that he’s close to the edge, but he hasn’t completely failed like the other three so he needs a little more time. I would like to see the same treatment of vets. Losing Topa and Garcia was a good first step. Bell should be next even if that means bringing up GG or Fedko. Culpepper should be up soon instead of Outman with Kreidler the backup CF. This year is for development and churn. It won’t be pretty or easy but it has to be done. Churn baby churn.
just-a-fan Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 The talent is there when it comes to SWR as a big league pitcher. I doubt we will ever know the real reason for the DFA but given the sudden decision I lean toward a mutual parting of the ways. Twins will be fine. TBD for SWR. IndyTwinsFan 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 54 minutes ago, thelanges5 said: Per Bobby Nightengale: Derek Shelton said the Twins decided to DFA Simeon Woods Richardson because they were short on bullpen arms today. Shelton added they would’ve liked more time to evaluate SWR in bullpen. “Sometimes there ends up being an odd man out, and it ended up being Sim.” https://www.startribune.com/twins-put-pitcher-simeon-woods-richardson-on-waivers-call-up-john-klein/601851060 Feels very short sighted to likely lose a 25 year old player because you need a fresh arm for 1 game. TheLeviathan, gman, KirbyDome89 and 7 others 10
ashbury Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 3 hours ago, Shaitan said: is it really necessary to put BREAKING in all the headlines? I like BREAKING, as long as an admin comes along 24 hours later and removes it.
T.O. Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 3 hours ago, Seth Stohs said: ..... I expect there'll be more tiers to this story. Already been enough tears. Patzky 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 21 minutes ago, LA Vikes Fan said: While I would normally agree with you, who is that? Adams has already been optioned and the rest of the guys like Morris, Orze, and Gomez are part of the future bullpen hopefully. You could DFA Taylor Rogers I guess but I don’t see a lot of other candidates. Funderburk just came up and Banda has actually been good lately. I don’t think losing SWR is going to turn out to be a big loss. In fact, I would not be surprised if he is not claimed on waivers since he has no options left. I could also see him being claimed by a team desperate for starting pitching, pitching lousy there, and getting waived again. Hopefully he won’t get claimed and we wind up trying to work out his issues in Saint Paul. Other than Morris, would you really miss any of these guys in a year or two? If so, how is the bullpen this awful? JADBP and KirbyDome89 1 1
IndyTwinsFan Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 3 hours ago, thelanges5 said: Hopefully James Outman DFA and bring Gabby back up. I’ve read that Roden and Jenkins are expected back mid-June. With 2 open spots on the 40 man, that would cover a Jenkins call up, if they want to go that route. Not needed for Roden, as he's already on the 40 man. That would leave at least one 40 man spot available, without taking into account other potential roster moves that may be coming. Who else might it be for? Other roster fallout would likely also occur as well. Outman and Bell are two names that fans have been tossing around. Then, how would all those spots be filled? Lots of potential questions with no clear answers, as it now looks to me.
mark allen Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said: Other than Morris, would you really miss any of these guys in a year or two? If so, how is the bullpen this awful? The bull pen has been great lately they said after 31 games to start season they were bottom five after they are top five in era.
mark allen Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, LA Vikes Fan said: While I would normally agree with you, who is that? Adams has already been optioned and the rest of the guys like Morris, Orze, and Gomez are part of the future bullpen hopefully. You could DFA Taylor Rogers I guess but I don’t see a lot of other candidates. Funderburk just came up and Banda has actually been good lately. I don’t think losing SWR is going to turn out to be a big loss. In fact, I would not be surprised if he is not claimed on waivers since he has no options left. I could also see him being claimed by a team desperate for starting pitching, pitching lousy there, and getting waived again. Hopefully he won’t get claimed and we wind up trying to work out his issues in Saint Paul. need to keep Rogers need some experience to share with the young guys
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