gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/cleveland-indians-decide-on-new-team-name.html I'm curious as to what the logo will look like but I'm glad they've finally changed the name.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Some background on the "Guardians" choice: https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/mlb/indians/cleveland-guardians-trendy-pick-cleveland-indians-new-name/95-7482a89e-5143-4043-9bdd-8f5e550a7c41
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Ownership can save money by keeping the ‘ians’ signage in their stadium and replace the ‘ind’ at the beginning.
AceWrigley Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 I still think the Cleveland Culture Kings would have been better.
MN_ExPat Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 The owner/ownership group is free to do whatever they want with the name... it's their team. If they changed it because they truly wanted to change it, then so be it. However, this is a move that screams it is being made strictly due to public pressure and for that I do not like it. Should have gone with Cleveland Cancel Cultures ?
Unwinder Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Logo here: I absolutely love the winged-god baseball icon, these are my hated division rivals and I would consider wearing that on a cap
lukeduke1980 Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Crossover potential with '... of the Galaxy.' Groot can be the mascot.
Dodecahedron Twins Daily Jail Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 I probably would have gone with the Spiders. Used Car Dealerships would have been the second choice.
dex8425 Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Wish they would've gone with Cleveland Spiders.
AceWrigley Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dodecahedron said: I probably would have gone with the Spiders. Used Car Dealerships would have been the second choice. The Cleveland Dealers.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 My first choice was Spiders but also would have accepted River Fires. Guardians is really meh, especially in the wake of the NHL adding a team called "The Kraken".
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: My first choice was Spiders but also would have accepted River Fires. Guardians is really meh, especially in the wake of the NHL adding a team called "The Kraken". I thought that too, but after reading that it has significance to the city I like it a bit better. Though I'm quite certain those guardians on that bridge are actually there trying to warn people to stay AWAY from Cleveland.
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: Though I'm quite certain those guardians on that bridge are actually there trying to warn people to stay AWAY from Cleveland. I can confirm that they've been very effective at deterring my entry to the city.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, lukeduke1980 said: Crossover potential with '... of the Galaxy.' Groot can be the mascot. First thing I thought of too. Team motto: except for José Ramirez, who would get his own:
LaBombo Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said: My first choice was Spiders but also would have accepted River Fires. "Cleveland, city of light, city of magic..." - Randy Newman, 'Burn On'
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 In this day and age it's extremely difficult to find a mascot name that is not in use elsewhere in professional or major college sports. Selecting a name in use elsewhere would involve lots of copyright infringement issues and so forth, which is why a completely new name is desirable for team ownership and management. This is how names such as MIghty Mussels and Wind Surge and the like come about. Given that constraint, Guardians is probably about the best--or least bad--that could be hoped for.
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Vanimal46 said: Ownership can save money by keeping the ‘ians’ signage in their stadium and replace the ‘ind’ at the beginning. Actually "dians'.
Fritzderkat Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 The Cleveland baseball club of the Major League is changing its name from the Indians to the Guardians. One may speculate why, what it intends to represent, but done is done so why quibble? Personally I'll just scratch it off as an exceptionally lousy name for a ball club. Guardians of what? Their great baseball heritage? Tris Speaker? Bob Feller? The lake? Better had they gone back to the original, the Spiders. I could get behind a team called the Spiders. Think of the logos on the caps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Spiders
wavedog Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Was do a bit of light research into the origin of the Indians name for Cleveland. They previously were Spiders, Blues, Broncos and then went to Naps - named after player-manager Nap Lajoie - and finally settled on Indians - possibly named after an Amerindian Louis Sockalexis that played for the Spiders and might have been the first Native American to play Major League Baseball but I can not confirm (both that they named the team after him and that he was the first American Indian). He only played for the Spiders for 3 years and hit ok but he was certainly not a long-time star and had less than 400 plate appearances so not sure they would have named the team after him. Since Cleveland apparently like naming their teams after players though they could have also followed tradition and gone with the Cleveland Fellers or maybe the Cleveland Thomes. How could they pass up and opportunity to go with "Come out and watch the Fellers tonight". I guess they could easily pass that up because it is not the 1940's and no one uses the term fella's anymore. Guardians fits the theme from their bridge nicely though so that does tie to something unique to the city. They last won a World Series in 1948 so I hope the name Guardians brings them no better success.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Not too exciting..... But whatever is kind of how I feel about most names.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Nine of twelve said: Actually "dians'. You’re hired! You saved their owner more money!
VivaBomboRivera! Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 Keep an eye out for Rocket Raccoon...
Dodecahedron Twins Daily Jail Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, VivaBomboRivera! said: Keep an eye out for Rocket Raccoon... This might be racist in a different direction. They might just want to lie low for a while.
VivaBomboRivera! Verified Member Posted July 23, 2021 Posted July 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Dodecahedron said: This might be racist in a different direction. They might just want to lie low for a while.
strumdatjag Verified Member Posted July 24, 2021 Posted July 24, 2021 Cleveland was the perfect team to pay homage to the Negro Leagues by naming its team after a negro league team. The Cleveland Indians brought Larry Doby to the American League, the first black player in the AL. The first black player to start playing for an existing MLB team in the city where it still plays (Jackie Robinson started in Brooklyn). The great Cleveland Negro League Team was The Cleveland Buckeyes. Maybe Ohio State would get upset, but screw it - that would have been a better name. Larry Doby played for the Newark Eagles. So how about the Cleveland Eagles? Why not honor a famous Negro League team - The Cleveland Monarchs, The Cleveland Grays???? Many of those great teams barnstormed around the nation and were not beholden entirely to their city. Instead of stomping on over a century of baseball history, Cleveland could have renewed some of it. At least, the Guardians ends in the letter “S”. All teams should end in “S” or “X”.
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted July 24, 2021 Posted July 24, 2021 It will take at least a generation for people to stop calling them that. I don't know any actual UND fans that call them whatever they're called now.
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted July 24, 2021 Posted July 24, 2021 Bottom line is that the only time I’ll ever root for the team from Cleveland is when they are playing the White Sox.
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted July 24, 2021 Posted July 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, IndianaTwin said: Bottom line is that the only time I’ll ever root for the team from Cleveland is when they are playing the White Sox. I get it, but for me it depends on the standings du jour.
AceWrigley Verified Member Posted July 24, 2021 Posted July 24, 2021 So they bolted a couple of G's to a baseball and glued some wings on 'em. Wow. That is sooo inspiring. Like . . . Cleveland.
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted July 24, 2021 Posted July 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said: I get it, but for me it depends on the standings du jour. I get that too, but it has to be a REALLY important game to root for Chicago. If possible, I’d root for rain.
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