Andrew Gebo Verified Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Minnesota was going for the statement series sweep against Cleveland in its first regular season action after the All-Star break. They had their hands full, however, going against Shane Bieber and ultimately fell short of completing the sweep, losing 4-3.Box ScoreBerrios: 5 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 6 K, 65% strikes (60 of 92 pitches)Bullpen: 3 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 3 K Home Runs: NoneMulti-Hit Games: Marwin Gonzalez (3-for-4) Top 3 WPA: Arraez .142, Gonzalez .126, Adrianza .115Bottom 3 WPA: Polanco -.317, Schoop -.285, Cruz -.150 Poor Command Bites BerriosTwins ace,Jose Berrios entered today’s action seeking an elusive ninth win of the season. He struggled with his command early on, surrendering two walks in the first inning and Jose Rameriz made him play by driving in one of the runners with a two out knock. In the fourth inning, Berrios gave up a double and two singles allowing Cleveland to add two more runs to their lead and push the score to 3-0. A high pitch count would eventually end his afternoon after only five innings. Minnesota Rallies in the SeventhIt wasn’t exactly how you draw it up and the Twins missed an opportunity to score even more but on a day where runs were at a premium at least they finally cracked into the run column It took Garver and Cave each getting hit by a pitch and singles from Marwin Gonzalez, Miguel Sano and Max Kepler for Minnesota to tie the game. They were very well positioned to do even more damage with the bases loaded and only one out with Polanco and Cruz due up. Unfortunately, both Polanco and Cruz would strike out to end the inning leaving the bases loaded. Coming Up Short In the Late InningsAfter the Twins rallied to tie the game in the seventh inning, Trevor May handed Cleveland the lead again when he surrendered a solo home run to Carlos Santana in an 0-2 count. The eighth inning got off to a good start for Minnesota when Luis Arraez reached base via a lead-off double but they were unable to drive him in and the scored remained 4-3. Postgame With Baldelli Bullpen Usage SpreadsheetClick here for a review of the number of pitches thrown by each member of the bullpen over the past five days. Click here to view the article glunn 1
Monticore Verified Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Jack Morris cautioned Trevor May from the booth to stick with his 98 heater against Santana so of course he throws him a hanging breaking ball. That dumb mistake cost 'em two games in the standings. mikelink45 and Channing1964 2
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Certainly frustrating to not get the sweep once they clawed back into the game... Though that said, those HBPs for Garver and Cave were gifts from the umps... I think the ball did catch Garver based on his reaction, but I was surprised when we won the challenge to HBP in a run with Cave. glunn and Channing1964 2
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Jack Morris cautioned Trevor May from the booth to stick with his 98 heater against Santana so of course he throws him a hanging breaking ball. That dumb mistake cost 'em two games in the standings. Not sure if that May or Garver calling for it in that situation. I will say that May dropped a beauty of a curve on Santana for a strike in that at bat. glunn 1
Splash45 Provisional Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Jack Morris cautioned Trevor May from the booth to stick with his 98 heater against Santana so of course he throws him a hanging breaking ball. That dumb mistake cost 'em two games in the standings. There’s no guarantee they win the game even if May doesn’t give up that homer. And the Twins had chances to make other plays that would’ve helped them win but couldn’t execute. carewser, Riverbrian, 70charger and 1 other 4
jkcarew Verified Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Twins now 1-5 in Berrios’s last 6 starts.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 And the Twins had chances to make other plays that would’ve helped them win but couldn’t execute.You mean like how they tied the game with the bases loaded and no outs and then failed to score again? You mean like that? Cleveland tried to hand this game away and the Twins refused to take the W. It happens. Annoying, but it happens. Riverbrian, Old Twins Cap, Richie the Rally Goat and 2 others 5
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Jack Morris cautioned Trevor May from the booth to stick with his 98 heater against Santana so of course he throws him a hanging breaking ball. That dumb mistake cost 'em two games in the standings.Of course, him ending the Indian rally in the 4th and dominating them in the 5th Friday kept the Twins in the game and allowed them to come back and win, gaining them two games in the standings. blindeke, Riverbrian and Dantes929 3
Dantes929 Verified Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 There’s no guarantee they win the game even if May doesn’t give up that homer. And the Twins had chances to make other plays that would’ve helped them win but couldn’t execute.May didn't even make the bottom 3 for WPA Tom Froemming 1
terrydactyls Verified Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Today is Sunday, July 14, it was the 92nd game of the year and the Twins hit 0 home runs. The Twins are now 57% of the way through the season. Out of 59 years, the current team ranks 10th on the all-time list of Twins' home runs in one season and are on a pace to hit 301 home runs this season. They are now 96 home runs behind the single season MLB record. The next Twins team to pass is the 2009 team that hit 172 home runs. glunn and Aerodeliria 2
jz7233 Provisional Member Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 It seems every game Schoop would leave 5 men on base. He's already at the bottom of the order. He can't go any lower in the lineup. He needs to go. sftwinsfan 1
Aerodeliria Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 I was more irritated that Arraez led off the next inning with a double and the Twins were unable to get him home, but we did what we set out to do and that was to push Cleveland further back instead of letting them get closer. Don Walcott, blindeke, John Bonnes and 2 others 5
Old Twins Cap Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 You know Santana was sitting on a curve ball. He had no chance on the hard stuff. If you want to throw a curve there, put it in the dirt. AceWrigley and jz7233 2
Juddcbrown Provisional Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 I was irked that Arraez doubled with no outs in the 8th, but Garver wasn’t asked to bunt him to third. Fundamental baseball - give yourselves a chance to tie on a sac fly instead of needing a base hit. Gonzales fly out would have done it. jz7233, Kelly Vance and glunn 3
ashbury Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 I was irked that Arraez doubled with no outs in the 8th, but Garver wasn’t asked to bunt him to third. Fundamental baseball - give yourselves a chance to tie on a sac fly instead of needing a base hit. Gonzales fly out would have done it.Another fundamental principle - play for the tie at home, but not when on the road. Brock Beauchamp, John Bonnes, Don Walcott and 2 others 5
sftwinsfan Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 They missed a golden opportunity to bury Cleveland today. I think a sweep on their home field coming out of the break and they would have folded not too long afterwards. Still a good series, but the fight for the division goes on. With all the talk of Berrios being an ace it would be nice if he pitched like one once in awhile. He's overall a solid starter, I just don't think he's reached the level so many people place him at. Aggies7, jz7233, glunn and 1 other 4
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 14 IP from the starters in 3 games ain’t gonna cut it in October. Not with this bullpen. Amazing they won 2/3 gettin 12 IP from the pen. That can be masked when we hit 3+ HRs a game but not when we struggle with RISP. jz7233 and nokomismod 2
Don Walcott Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Can't wait to see how having Rosario back will help this lineup.
howeda7 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 It seems every game Schoop would leave 5 men on base. He's already at the bottom of the order. He can't go any lower in the lineup. He needs to go.He's hitting like .140 with RISP. I've seen enough too. jz7233 1
howeda7 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 They missed a golden opportunity to bury Cleveland today. I think a sweep on their home field coming out of the break and they would have folded not too long afterwards. Still a good series, but the fight for the division goes on. With all the talk of Berrios being an ace it would be nice if he pitched like one once in awhile. He's overall a solid starter, I just don't think he's reached the level so many people place him at. This is true, but this was also the blessing and curse of him being an all-star. He wasn't sharp in the 1st, gave up a run and threw a ton of pitches. If he's on regular rest, it probably goes differently.
howeda7 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 I was irked that Arraez doubled with no outs in the 8th, but Garver wasn’t asked to bunt him to third. Fundamental baseball - give yourselves a chance to tie on a sac fly instead of needing a base hit. Gonzales fly out would have done it.I also couldn't believe they didn't make Schoop bunt in the 9th. He's been awful and you have a chance to get the tying run to 2nd for Kepler and Polanco. jz7233 and nokomismod 2
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 14 IP from the starters in 3 games ain’t gonna cut it in October. Not with this bullpen. Amazing they won 2/3 gettin 12 IP from the pen. That can be masked when we hit 3+ HRs a game but not when we struggle with RISP.A weird statement given how much better the bullpen has been than the rotation. Richie the Rally Goat, Riverbrian and Danchat 3
Dennesey55347 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 The attention is often turned towards pitching in losses like today. I mostly turn mine to offense unless our starter coughs up 8ish runs. Since late April, I've noticed, and openly commented on something specific I was monitoring this season: hits with 2 or more men on. Minus the Bomba, the percentage of men getting left on base in these critical situations is increasing as the season wears. I couldn't honestly name a single player I could count on to put the ball in the gap to score 2 (Escobar). Way too many bad at-bats in crucial times and empty innings. A lineup of streaky hitters are fun when they're on and slightly annoying otherwise. I sure wish we had a Springer, Altuve, LeMahieu, Betts, JD Martinez, Lindor, Carlos Santana, etc. Clutch hitters you definitely want to pitch around. Our version of this guy is whoever's hot that week, and pitchers generally still go after them. I'd (literally) throw Schoop ...and a prospect into a package for a Rogers equal. jz7233 1
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 This is true, but this was also the blessing and curse of him being an all-star. He wasn't sharp in the 1st, gave up a run and threw a ton of pitches. If he's on regular rest, it probably goes differently.Bieber pitched in the all star game too. Dantes929 and glunn 2
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 The attention is often turned towards pitching in losses like today. I mostly turn mine to offense unless our starter coughs up 8ish runs. Since late April, I've noticed, and openly commented on something specific I was monitoring this season: hits with 2 or more men on. Minus the Bomba, the percentage of men getting left on base in these critical situations is increasing as the season wears. I couldn't honestly name a single player I could count on to put the ball in the gap to score 2 (Escobar). Way too many bad at-bats in crucial times and empty innings. A lineup of streaky hitters are fun when they're on and slightly annoying otherwise. I sure wish we had a Springer, Altuve, LeMahieu, Betts, JD Martinez, Lindor, Carlos Santana, etc. Clutch hitters you definitely want to pitch around. Our version of this guy is whoever's hot that week, and pitchers generally still go after them. I'd (literally) throw Schoop ...and a prospect into a package for a Rogers equal.And another team will want Schoop, why exactly? DannySD and glunn 2
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 This is true, but this was also the blessing and curse of him being an all-star. He wasn't sharp in the 1st, gave up a run and threw a ton of pitches. If he's on regular rest, it probably goes differently.huh? One inning last Tuesday??
Juddcbrown Provisional Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Another fundamental principle - play for the tie at home, but not when on the road. There’s no tieing in baseball! In my eyes, they needed to tie the game first, then win it with a mighty Sano hit. Well, maybe someone in the top of the 9th would have gotten that hit.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 There’s no tieing in baseball!In my eyes, they needed to tie the game first, then win it with a mighty Sano hit.Well, maybe someone in the top of the 9th would have gotten that hit. Brad Hand-cuffed them. They got a lucky baserunner due to a fielding misplay. Zero well hit balls. nokomismod 1
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 This is true, but this was also the blessing and curse of him being an all-star. He wasn't sharp in the 1st, gave up a run and threw a ton of pitches. If he's on regular rest, it probably goes differently.He was on regular rest. Cap'n Piranha 1
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 The attention is often turned towards pitching in losses like today. I mostly turn mine to offense unless our starter coughs up 8ish runs. Since late April, I've noticed, and openly commented on something specific I was monitoring this season: hits with 2 or more men on. Minus the Bomba, the percentage of men getting left on base in these critical situations is increasing as the season wears. I couldn't honestly name a single player I could count on to put the ball in the gap to score 2 (Escobar). Way too many bad at-bats in crucial times and empty innings. A lineup of streaky hitters are fun when they're on and slightly annoying otherwise. I sure wish we had a Springer, Altuve, LeMahieu, Betts, JD Martinez, Lindor, Carlos Santana, etc. Clutch hitters you definitely want to pitch around. Our version of this guy is whoever's hot that week, and pitchers generally still go after them. I'd (literally) throw Schoop ...and a prospect into a package for a Rogers equal.Why would a team that's selling want a pending free agent?
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