nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I waited for someone else to post this, but nobody did. Yes it is early in this story, but it is something we need to be thinking and ultimately, talking about. Not sure there is anything more to add at this point, and I'd ask that people in the comments be very thoughtful and careful about their responses to this. She also noted in a subsequent tweet that the Twins knew nothing about this incident, and so it has nothing to do with recent trade rumors. While we obviously need to hear his side of the story, I personally believe her, and am incredibly disappointed in Sano. I'm not sure where to go from here, but at this point I'm not sure how I can root for a team with him on it. https://twitter.com/BitzyBetsy/status/946407707606740992 Here is the TwinkieTown story now:
70charger Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 It's an allegation that has to be taken seriously and investigated thoroughly. If true, it's massively disappointing, and it needs to be dealt with very seriously by the team. I'm withholding final judgment until all of the facts are out and the truth is known. But this is also a reminder of why the people involved in this sport that we love are so much more important than the numbers that represent them, including Ws and Ls.
Pardon My Dinger Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Trade his ass. For a song.
BobAzar Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I don’t know the photographer, but I believe her 100%. And this sucks. Why is it so hard for some men to not be terrible human beings?
SF Twins Fan Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I had actually just saw this on Twitter and was going to post it when I got back to my desk. Obviously only one side of the story has come out so far but it definitely doesn't look good for Sano. The Twins must take this very seriously and if there is any evidence then he needs to be suspended for a number of games. Like you mentioned it will be more difficult to root for him if this is true.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Sano's behavior was unacceptable, the Twins should deal with it swiftly and severly. I hope for this woman that some justice can be found in tgose reprecussions. I hope for Sano the reprecussions teach him to be a better human being.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Who was "the guy [she] worked for"? Both he and the agent have some complicity in what happened to the photographer. She had no business being drug along to the Apple Store. It's precisely these kind of acts (and omissions) by non-athletes that make fertile ground for these kinds of assaults.
nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted December 28, 2017 Author Posted December 28, 2017 Who was "the guy [she] worked for"? Both he and the agent have some complicity in what happened to the photographer. She had no business being drug along to the Apple Store. It's precisely these kind of acts (and omissions) by non-athletes that make fertile ground for these kinds of assaults. Very good point. Absolutely agree 100%. This is obviously primarily on Sano, but those who enable and look the other way need to be held accountable as well.
markroehl Provisional Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 What does she mean when she says Twins Daily has been stripped of most of their access?
nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted December 28, 2017 Author Posted December 28, 2017 What does she mean when she says Twins Daily has been stripped of most of their access? I'm not sure, but I assume she was referring to TD getting cut off either from parts of Target Field/facilities, or from access to certain Twins management persons. Not sure though exactly.
John Kelsey Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Well ****, this will be quite the test for Falvine.
olivia11 Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Believe her. There is no reason for a woman to ever lie about something like this. There is absolutely nothing for her to gain.
AZTwin Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Was she a photographer for twins daily? Don’t remember seeing her on here
John Miller Provisional Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I was going to write a blog about this but I felt as if I couldn't put the right words together. This needs to be investigated thoroughly and I have no idea how Twins management handles this.
nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted December 28, 2017 Author Posted December 28, 2017 Was she a photographer for twins daily? Don’t remember seeing her on hereThere is some uncertainty about that. Her twitter bio suggests she is or was though.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Was she a photographer for twins daily? Don’t remember seeing her on hereWe’ve had a working relationship with Betsy for several years.
NorthwestTwinsFan Provisional Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Sano needs be cut immediately. I don't care how good he is....there should be zero tolerance for this sort of thing.
Brandon Warne Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I believe her. I'm also not sure what you do as a team. 20-game suspension and team-mandated treatment? I totally understand why people are saying they should cut him, but I just don't know if I believe a team would do that.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I totally understand why people are saying they should cut him, but I just don't know if I believe a team would do that.No. This is a situation where your personal decency would be leveraged by another team for their advantage. Cut Sano and he's picked up 20 seconds later. If you feel you must move on from him, trade him to another team who wants him and his baggage.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 What does she mean when she says Twins Daily has been stripped of most of their access? 1.) Betsy has been at Target Field with credentials secured by Twins Daily. 2.) Twins Daily has not been stripped of most of our access. There have been no changes in this way. We continue to be able to request access at games, spring training, etc.
AZTwin Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Trevor Plouffe has tweeted her. Really classy on his end. Her story seems to have legs and should be investigated.
GP830 Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Interestingly, I saw that Trevor Plouffe tweeted that he believes her and has her back. Not that we shouldn't believe her regardless, but this makes me wonder if Sano has a history of this type of behavior that other players have been aware of in the past.
SF Twins Fan Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I believe her. I'm also not sure what you do as a team. 20-game suspension and team-mandated treatment? I totally understand why people are saying they should cut him, but I just don't know if I believe a team would do that. Chapman was suspended by the league for 30 games back in 2015 I believe for offseason personal conduct policy violation for domestic abuse. The Twins could use that as a base.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I’ve known Betsy for a long time. She related this experience to me and others many months ago. There is no reason to doubt its veracity. I speak for the entire Twins Daily ownership group in saying we believe her story, and respect/support her for making the difficult decision to share it publicly.
Brandon Warne Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I’ve known Betsy for a long time. She related this experience to me and others many months ago. There is no reason to doubt its veracity. I speak for the entire Twins Daily ownership group in saying we believe her story, and respect/support her for making the difficult decision to share it publicly. Agree. I don't like the idea that knowing her makes her story more true -- or more likely to be true -- but I still absolutely believe her. I'm not sure how else to articulate it, you know?
RollingOaks Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 I believe her. I'm also not sure what you do as a team. 20-game suspension and team -mandated treatment? I totally understand why people are saying they should cut him, but I just don't know if I believe a team would do that. I think that is where you start. However, I would not be opposed to a longer suspension or even dismissal. Develop a no tolerance policy moving forward. Work with educating players throughout the system. If there is a suspension, I wonder what kind of response there will be from the players union.
Teflon Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 1. I hate that this is happening to women. 2. I hate that social media is the new judge and jury.
mazeville Verified Member Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Suspend Sano for 20-30 games and require that he get treatment and make a public apology. And for the love of God guys, stop doing stuff like this. Men are not somehow entitled to force themselves on women.
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