Heyman: Twins Open for Business on Rentals, Listening on Ryan and Duran

[nicksaviking]

8 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I want to deal one because the Twins have shown themselves capable of developing pitchers, particularly relievers. They can absorb the loss of one, and still compete. They cannot absorb the loss of two.

But if the sale of the team is right around the corner, as we are being led to believe, are the people who are developing those pitchers going to be here next year? Obviously they are the same people who AREN'T developing enough hitters too.

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

But if the sale of the team is right around the corner, as we are being led to believe, are the people who are developing those pitchers going to be here next year? Obviously they are the same people who AREN'T developing enough hitters too.

We can't predict an unknown, so we may as well ignore it.

[Mike Sixel]

Ya, dealing one RP means they can't compete.....

Jay Jaffe of Fangraphs things they should deal Duran....

[Vanimal46]

56 minutes ago, P Meyer said:

Lots of barriers in trading Correa from my limited knowledge. The benefit would be huge and an almost perfect storm of circumstances would be needed.

Yeah, it’s hard to imagine a team like the Yankees bailing us out of that contract like they did with Josh Donaldson… A perfect storm of circumstances is needed indeed. The only thing we can hope for is him bouncing back to being an .800 OPS player. 

[Fred]

6 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Selling the expiring contract players is a no brainer. I don’t see a Joe Ryan trade on the horizon unless he’s pushing for it behind closed doors. I’d also prefer trading Jax over Duran. 

Jax is 2-3 years older than Duran which, to me anyway, means you are correct

[Major League Ready]

It's so hard to predict what happens.  The easy call is Coulombe gets traded.  Castro and Bader will be available but we will see if they can swing deals for both.  Duran is not going anywhere without a considerable haul but the Twins and Dodgers lineup nicely on a trade that brings Dalton Rushing + prospects to the Twins.  The fact that Rushing is already in the majors, catches, and plays 1B is about as good a fit as we could get.

[RpR]

Rushing would be a good addition, but not likely.

[TheLeviathan]

51 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

It's so hard to predict what happens.  The easy call is Coulombe gets traded.  Castro and Bader will be available but we will see if they can swing deals for both.  Duran is not going anywhere without a considerable haul but the Twins and Dodgers lineup nicely on a trade that brings Dalton Rushing + prospects to the Twins.  The fact that Rushing is already in the majors, catches, and plays 1B is about as good a fit as we could get.

I think you point out a good thing in that last sentence.  Even if Rushing doesn't stick as a catcher....it's not like the Twins don't have a gaping hole at 1B he could help with too.

[arby58]

4 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

BTV has its place, but it's kind of like WAR, except moreso: once you get into decimal places, you're missing the point of the activity. As a very rudimentary tool, it's really useful. Taken as gospel, it's being misused.

I don't disagree, which is why I stuck to ordinals related to trade surplus in my last response. 

[jorgenswest]

4 hours ago, USAFChief said:

I dont understand trading only 1 of Jax/Duran.

If you're trying to compete in 2026, deal neither. 

If not, deal both. 

Dealing only 1 is just more half-assing it. Serves neither goal. 

Id say both, as i dont see this team competitive in 2026.

But either way, pick a lane.

Concur. Either way pick a lane.

I am picking the other lane. In that other lane I think we need both and more next year. I don’t see a surplus in the bullpen. They need Coulombe back after trading him. They need two more arms after that.

[mrtwinsfan]

9 hours ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

I'd be REALLY curious if they could get something for Caleb Thielbar. That would be some true voodoo magic :)

But if they can make smart moves to prepare for 2026, I think that's better than doing nothing at all.

 REALLY curious if they could get something for Caleb Thielbar--   WE ALL WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED  BEING HE IS IN CHICAGO

[dxpavelka]

13 hours ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

I'd be REALLY curious if they could get something for Caleb Thielbar. That would be some true voodoo magic :)

But if they can make smart moves to prepare for 2026, I think that's better than doing nothing at all.

If they could get something for a Cub pitcher I'm in.

[UK Twin]

Only thing that the Twins shouldn't do at the deadline is nothing. Either go for it and strenthen the roster or trade the likes of Bader, Castro and Couloumbe. I would be open to a blockbuster trade for Duran as well but not Ryan unless we get such a good offer we can't turn it down.

[LewFordLives]

I' m not willing to throw in the towel yet on this season. The talent is there to go on another winning streak and get back in this thing. Yes, the odds are long, but the front office needs to consider that possibility in whatever they decide to do. They shouldn't just trade rentals like Bader and Coulombe just to trade them. Their value in possibly helping the Twins make the post-season, no matter how small, is still greater than a couple of low minors lottery tickets.

[JD-TWINS]

21 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

The Twins have a single strength right now: the bullpen. It's my opinion the Twins should enter August 1st with two good relievers on the roster: Griffin Jax and Louis Varland.

Brock Stewart has three years of control but is a ticking time bomb. If you can get good value for him, move him. I've never had much faith in Duran because, if he started losing velocity, that's a real problem long-term. If a team is still salivating over him, move him. If the front office doesn't trade expiring contracts like Coulombe, they should be fired on the spot.

If a team is absolutely desperate for Joe Ryan, consider trading him. Otherwise, I'm just fine keeping Joe.

Ryan has the highest rated single pitch in the game, relative to success. His fastball is #1 & Skubal’s change-up is #2………how does a Team trade that with 2 years of control left with the pitcher? Ober in a trade - Matthews or Festa in a trade - Lopez in a trade and relieving Team of that salary (don’t propose doing this) all make way more sense than trading Ryan for “prospects”. 

Martin - Lee - Wallner are all, we’re all budding potential stars or at least solid future contributors on paper in ‘23 & ‘24 & ‘25 ………… sustained results to date???? Team doesn’t need more “potential for the future” from another organization. Would new ownership promote trading a guy like Joe Ryan - does the move attract any new ownership? Ultimately, does it give the Team a better chance to win the next 2 years?

Personally, with the upbeat handful of games from Lewis lately, I think we keep the bullpen in tact and assume winning some series and rolling the dice on a 6 game win streak between now and end of August. Paddack to the Pen……..Keaschall for Kiersey in another 7-10 days ……..Lopez back in 3 weeks. Red Sox are in town 28-30th, to me, that Series (& the need to win 3 of next 4) will determine if organization thinks they buy or sell.

I agree on Stewart’s health - how could anyone not agree? However, he’s cheap & awfully effective …….. don’t see. much in return. Sands - Topa - Coulombe would all draw some interest & could try to re-sign Coulombe in offseason if choose to try.

[Brock Beauchamp]

14 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

Ryan has the highest rated single pitch in the game, relative to success. His fastball is #1 & Skubal’s change-up is #2………how does a Team trade that with 2 years of control left with the pitcher? Ober in a trade - Matthews or Festa in a trade - Lopez in a trade and relieving Team of that salary (don’t propose doing this) all make way more sense than trading Ryan for “prospects”. 

Martin - Lee - Wallner are all, we’re all budding potential stars or at least solid future contributors on paper in ‘23 & ‘24 & ‘25 ………… sustained results to date???? Team doesn’t need more “potential for the future” from another organization. Would new ownership promote trading a guy like Joe Ryan - does the move attract any new ownership? Ultimately, does it give the Team a better chance to win the next 2 years?

Personally, with the upbeat handful of games from Lewis lately, I think we keep the bullpen in tact and assume winning some series and rolling the dice on a 6 game win streak between now and end of August. Paddack to the Pen……..Keaschall for Kiersey in another 7-10 days ……..Lopez back in 3 weeks. Red Sox are in town 28-30th, to me, that Series (& the need to win 3 of next 4) will determine if organization thinks they buy or sell.

I agree on Stewart’s health - how could anyone not agree? However, he’s cheap & awfully effective …….. don’t see. much in return. Sands - Topa - Coulombe would all draw some interest & could try to re-sign Coulombe in offseason if choose to try.

I'd prefer not to trade Ryan, but if the Cubs call and say "Owen Caissie and Moises Ballesteros for Joe Ryan, yes or no", I'm going to listen.

[Cory Engelhardt]

1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I'd prefer not to trade Ryan, but if the Cubs call and say "Owen Caissie and Moises Ballesteros for Joe Ryan, yes or no", I'm going to listen.

Only adding that I'm not in love with Caissie's strikeout rate at AAA. Ballesteros would certainly be interesting though. 

 

[tony&rodney]

7 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

Only adding that I'm not in love with Caissie's strikeout rate at AAA. Ballesteros would certainly be interesting though. 

 

I have only watched Caissie a dozen times but I'm not as high on him as the lists. I'm not listening to the Cubs if Ryan's name is involved. The Cubs have a pile of really good prospects who fall short of the standard required if the names of Duran or Ryan are included.

The players on expiring contracts may be where the Twins and Cubs get together. Caissis's name will not be among the returns for those guys because his value remains high.

[arby58]

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I'd prefer not to trade Ryan, but if the Cubs call and say "Owen Caissie and Moises Ballesteros for Joe Ryan, yes or no", I'm going to listen.

I live in Des Moines and have seen them both play on a few occasions - they are both young (22 and 21 respectively) and talented (Cubs numbers 1 and 2 prospects according to MLB.com). Was actually there last Saturday night for Ballesteros' bobblehead night. Unlike BB, Moises went 0 for 3 on his bobblehead night.

[S Bart]

On 7/22/2025 at 8:21 AM, Brock Beauchamp said:

The Twins have a single strength right now: the bullpen. It's my opinion the Twins should enter August 1st with two good relievers on the roster: Griffin Jax and Louis Varland.

Brock Stewart has three years of control but is a ticking time bomb. If you can get good value for him, move him. I've never had much faith in Duran because, if he started losing velocity, that's a real problem long-term. If a team is still salivating over him, move him. If the front office doesn't trade expiring contracts like Coulombe, they should be fired on the spot.

If a team is absolutely desperate for Joe Ryan, consider trading him. Otherwise, I'm just fine keeping Joe.

Agree on your comment, except for Ryan. He is the ace of the team at this point. 

[S Bart]

I very much enjoyed listening to Plouffe's comments on the Twins Skor North podcast yesterday. It was very insightful. To me, there is room to trade a reliever within the next week. Castro and Bader could help a contenting team. If you have not glanced at the August schedule, do it. The team has several contending teams to play that month. They need to finish this month strong.

[S Bart]

4 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

Ryan has the highest rated single pitch in the game, relative to success. His fastball is #1 & Skubal’s change-up is #2………how does a Team trade that with 2 years of control left with the pitcher? Ober in a trade - Matthews or Festa in a trade - Lopez in a trade and relieving Team of that salary (don’t propose doing this) all make way more sense than trading Ryan for “prospects”. 

Martin - Lee - Wallner are all, we’re all budding potential stars or at least solid future contributors on paper in ‘23 & ‘24 & ‘25 ………… sustained results to date???? Team doesn’t need more “potential for the future” from another organization. Would new ownership promote trading a guy like Joe Ryan - does the move attract any new ownership? Ultimately, does it give the Team a better chance to win the next 2 years?

Personally, with the upbeat handful of games from Lewis lately, I think we keep the bullpen in tact and assume winning some series and rolling the dice on a 6 game win streak between now and end of August. Paddack to the Pen……..Keaschall for Kiersey in another 7-10 days ……..Lopez back in 3 weeks. Red Sox are in town 28-30th, to me, that Series (& the need to win 3 of next 4) will determine if organization thinks they buy or sell.

I agree on Stewart’s health - how could anyone not agree? However, he’s cheap & awfully effective …….. don’t see. much in return. Sands - Topa - Coulombe would all draw some interest & could try to re-sign Coulombe in offseason if choose to try.

Paddack to the pen would be fine. He did it at the very end of last year and did well from what I recall.

[Chris Hove]

What do you guys think about this speculation? I love all of these crazy reports.

https://puckettspond.com/this-cubs-top-prospect-could-unlock-a-joe-ryan-blockbuster-trade-with-twins-01k0w85h2ag7

[mluebker]

On 7/22/2025 at 2:39 PM, nicksaviking said:

But if the sale of the team is right around the corner, as we are being led to believe, are the people who are developing those pitchers going to be here next year? Obviously they are the same people who AREN'T developing enough hitters too.

When/if the team sells, I'm hoping for a complete overhaul of whatever is construed as "the Twins Way" these days. It's not producing teams with any real hope of playing deep into October, just teams that can win enough games to squeeze out a profit for the owners. While there are guys I'd hate to see go, at this point a complete tear-down with an eye toward rebuilding from scratch might be the best way to go.

[h2oface]

Nobody wants Correa? Yet the Twins pay 36 million a year, and home writers and announcers and fans keep saying he is sooooooo good. The thorn will stay.