The End of the Joey Gallo Saga?

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

40 minutes ago, Patzky said:

Well it's official. Gallo onto the IL and Kiriloff up.

Thanks for breaking that news!

[jorgenswest]

I am curious whether his status on the IL gives them additional flexibility adding someone not on the 40 to the playoff roster.

I would argue they could have released him before September 1 and chosen someone then. I guess doing it later gives them more time to see what they might need. For example if something happens that Jeffers is out for the first series they wouldn’t want to IL him but would rather add extra catcher in another roster spot.

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, jorgenswest said:

I am curious whether his status on the IL gives them additional flexibility adding someone not on the 40 to the playoff roster.

I would argue they could have released him before September 1 and chosen someone then. I guess doing it later gives them more time to see what they might need. For example if something happens that Jeffers is out for the first series they wouldn’t want to IL him but would rather add extra catcher in another roster spot.

Ya, that's what I concluded in the thread I started about Stevenson. Doing this later means they have flexibility. Not that Gallo will still be hurt at playoff time, I'd guess. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

45 minutes ago, Road trip said:

Plus they can stash him in case of a catastrophic Uber crash that involves all of our other potential first basemen.

uh-oh, who was driving...

[USAFChief]

21 minutes ago, jorgenswest said:

I am curious whether his status on the IL gives them additional flexibility adding someone not on the 40 to the playoff roster.

I would argue they could have released him before September 1 and chosen someone then. I guess doing it later gives them more time to see what they might need. For example if something happens that Jeffers is out for the first series they wouldn’t want to IL him but would rather add extra catcher in another roster spot.

Yes, if I read this legalese correctly:

 

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/postseason-roster-rules-eligibility

[nmcowboy]

21 hours ago, Fatbat said:

maybe gallo can come up with a mysterious injury so everyone can save face and we can get a young man added to the team to help out instead of strike out. 

Henceforth, we shall refer to you as "The Prophet". 😁

 

[USAFChief]

Prediction: Joey Gallo has not taken his last AB for your Minnesota Twins. 

[Mike Sixel]

9 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Prediction: Joey Gallo has not taken his last AB for your Minnesota Twins. 

Agreed

[jaimedude]

I called for a mysterious ailment or injury for Joey Gallo when Castro was nearing the end of his rehabilitation. A strained gluteos maximus or brain cramp contusion after he was picked off as a pinch runner. They will keep him around, but if others are healthy the playoff roster will be full without him. They will not DFA him, if not prior to 08/31 he will not be cut. 

[stringer bell]

Gallo gets called into the trainer's room. "Joey, I want you to answer a question, take your time--is there any injury or illness that you have suffered in the last few days? Turned ankle, pink eye, ingrown toenails, shingles?" "Well, yeah, I fouled a ball off my foot before the last road trip." Ökay, you're on the injured list with a foot contusion."

[Schmoeman5]

On 9/7/2023 at 7:13 PM, RpR said:

Gallo is a better First Base  can play any outfield position and is faster on the base paths.

People want to dump him simply because they do not like him, or is supposedly "blocking" some wonder boy in AAA.
 

You've been calling for Stevenson for some time now. He's up. And as far as defense goes, he's a much better defensive option than Gallo is. And a better option on the basepaths as well. So in your scenario 1st base would be the only spot for Gallo to play. Stevensons range is 2nd only to MAT and that's only if Taylor is healthy.

[Aerodeliria]

Gallo...it's sad for me. I was big supporter of bringing him in. I thought that he just needed to get out of the Bronx Zoo. When he started so well, I thought it was true, but alas, after that fast start, he really has been an albatross. (I never expected him to hit .280 and blast 40 home runs, but I was kind of hoping for .220 and 30+ home runs, which I could live with.)

 

Falvine is fuming? I'm not so sure. There is a lot of stubborn pride attached to these decisions.

[Fatbat]

14 hours ago, jorgenswest said:

I am curious whether his status on the IL gives them additional flexibility adding someone not on the 40 to the playoff roster.

I would argue they could have released him before September 1 and chosen someone then. I guess doing it later gives them more time to see what they might need. For example if something happens that Jeffers is out for the first series they wouldn’t want to IL him but would rather add extra catcher in another roster spot.

If they put him on the 60 day il, then we can add to the 40 man roster. 

[Fatbat]

8 hours ago, stringer bell said:

Gallo gets called into the trainer's room. "Joey, I want you to answer a question, take your time--is there any injury or illness that you have suffered in the last few days? Turned ankle, pink eye, ingrown toenails, shingles?" "Well, yeah, I fouled a ball off my foot before the last road trip." Ökay, you're on the injured list with a foot contusion."

Bravo! Beat me to it 🤣

[twins_89]

14 hours ago, USAFChief said:

Prediction: Joey Gallo has not taken his last AB for your Minnesota Twins. 

Sad but probably true. The reasoning for Gallo returning will likely frustrate a lot of Twins fans.

[dxpavelka]

The only issue, albeit a minor one, is that Gallo is better defensively, at least in the outfield, than Kiriloff.

[GusGus11]

15 hours ago, wabene said:

This is a good attitude GG. He seems like an alright guy. He can cheer the boys on from the bench

Yup pretty sure that was his MO in Texas too and why they held on to him as long as possible. Good guy.

And DFA this late in the year when not needed wouldnt be a good way to treat a guy who battled all year for the team.

 

[jorgenswest]

2 hours ago, Fatbat said:

If they put him on the 60 day il, then we can add to the 40 man roster. 

Reading the link from @USAFChief I think he would need the be on the 60 for 60 which makes me wonder how the added player would get to the 40. I guess a healthy player could be DFA’d. That could be someone like Henriquez or someone they determined they will remove in the off-season.

[insagt1]

Did they manufacture a half-legit 'injury' that would allow him on the IL or is sort of a wink-wink among all the teams?

[Woof Bronzer]

16 hours ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

Plus, this is good PR for other players and agents to see.  It makes is more likely that they will come away with a good feeling about the Twins organization.  Kind of similar to the team paying all employees during COVID.  It could have some effect on a FA coming here in the future, albeit slight effect.

No offense but if a FA signs here because the Twins are accommodating to poor performing players I don't think I want that FA.  

[lecroy24fan]

5 hours ago, jorgenswest said:

Reading the link from @USAFChief I think he would need the be on the 60 for 60 which makes me wonder how the added player would get to the 40. I guess a healthy player could be DFA’d. That could be someone like Henriquez or someone they determined they will remove in the off-season.

If Buxton is unable to come back you could move him to the 60 day and that 60 days would be up on the 1st. So that would be a way to do it.

[dxpavelka]

8 hours ago, GusGus11 said:

Yup pretty sure that was his MO in Texas too and why they held on to him as long as possible. Good guy.

And DFA this late in the year when not needed wouldnt be a good way to treat a guy who battled all year for the team.

 

Leo Durocher had a famous quote about good guys.  Or maybe it was nice guys.  Is there a difference?

[Dave Borton]

On 9/8/2023 at 5:50 PM, USAFChief said:

Prediction: Joey Gallo has not taken his last AB for your Minnesota Twins. 

Suggest that we rely on the Prophet.

[Dave Borton]

On 9/8/2023 at 6:55 PM, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

Plus, this is good PR for other players and agents to see.  It makes is more likely that they will come away with a good feeling about the Twins organization.  Kind of similar to the team paying all employees during COVID.  It could have some effect on a FA coming here in the future, albeit slight effect.

 I am going to take another view, having had the misfortune of managing more than one RIF. Gallo will get $10MM this year. Workers in the trenches where I worked had put their heart and soul into the job, but when business soured and cash drawer was slim, something had to be done. Staff affected didn't get any $10MM.

I respect Gallo, but I don't see the business sense or ball sense in having him hang around based on the measure he offers. Gallo gets it.

[stringer bell]

It wouldn’t surprise me if the Twins kept Gallo around until the end of the regular season as long as they don’t have to DFA someone. They have to pay him regardless and if there is a spate of injuries, Joey will play. 
 

With only 28 active roster spots, the Twins have to move people around from the minors and the Injured List. Depending on their recoveries, they have at least three guys on the 60-day list that they would have to add to the 40-man as well as the active roster. 
 

This stuff fascinates me. They well might DFA Stevenson just to make space for Paddack or Stewart. 

[Squirrel]

11 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

This stuff fascinates me. They well might DFA Stevenson just to make space for Paddack or Stewart.

Yeah ... I don't think there is a rush to add Paddack until after the season is over. But Stewart, who is supposed to be back sometime this month ... who gets DFA'd to make room? And when MAT returns? Can either Luplow or Stevenson be sent down? Are there other pitchers who could be DFA'd? So, yeah ... this is now becoming a discussion for the 'Roster moves/crunch' thread. 

[jaimedude]

If it is determined Buxtoon can't heal up enough to play he may end up on the 60 day IL to add someone back. Maybe best to let him rest it. He is going to need one of those off-season plans that helps heal up his patellar and knee issues. 

[Jocko87]

On 9/9/2023 at 5:13 PM, dxpavelka said:

Leo Durocher had a famous quote about good guys.  Or maybe it was nice guys.  Is there a difference?

What the Brooklyn Dodgers' manager did say, before a 1946 game with the New York Giants, was: “The nice guys are all over there. In seventh place.”

I got that from Google, so your mileage may vary. 

Its not about being nice guys.  As someone who has also had to manage through several RIFs (reduction in force, HR speak for layoffs) what is being discussed is not being nice, its your organizational culture.  They have a well earned reputation for standing by their people, on and off the field.  Even a disaster like Donaldson was exited very gracefully.  Overhauling the training department was not a bloody mess when it certainly could have been.  The million bucks saved by cutting Gallo isn't a factor for an organization that pays employees through COVID. 

So much talk about how cheap the Twins have been but they have always spent money when its the right thing to do.  Responsible business sense keeps them out of situations where they would be forced to take drastic actions.  Having lived through several RIFs now it's sad to look back at the dumb decisions made that led to a most of them.  

[stringer bell]

13 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

 

The million bucks saved by cutting Gallo isn't a factor for an organization that pays employees through COVID. 

Nit pick, but cutting Gallo would save the Twins zero dollars. 

[Jocko87]

43 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

Nit pick, but cutting Gallo would save the Twins zero dollars. 

Thought about that after I posted but don't think it changes much. Same statement a month ago when it would have saved money. The DFA calls have been out for months when it did apply.  Now that there isn't money involved DFA is off the table.