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Tom Pohlad Commits to Higher Twins Payroll in 2027
Woof Bronzer replied to Cody Christie's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Tom thinks Twins fans are stupid. The Pohlads ran a $160 mil payroll in 2023. This family is so dedicated to winning and running competitive payrolls that...the uncles stepped in, fired the failnephew who ran the high payroll, immediately told fans they were cutting payroll, and haven't sniffed that payroll since. This was not even 3 years ago. Tom first appeared in a Twins press conference in September, so he's been on the job almost a full year. His current payroll is $113m, up from $100m at the start of the season. Golden Rule of Minnesota Twins Fandom: Pay attention to what the Pohlads do, not what they say. -
Also it appears the Twins' playoff odds actually dropped a couple percent post-deadline. And the TD writing staff is celebrating this! Bizarro world.
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How? What needle did this deadline move? They were a fringe playoff team before, and they're a fringe playoff team now.
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Yeah I seriously don't know what is going on around here. Like, we've been through this sooooo many times with the Pohlads. They are running a $110 million payroll AFTER the deadline "investment". If they would have come into the season with even a $130 mill payroll they're likely in 1st place in the division, in an extreme down year for the rest of the AL. Add some actual needle movers at the deadline and now we're talking. But no, we are supposed to hand the Pohlads a medal for picking up 2 ok relievers plus a #6 starter to raise the payroll to 2015 levels in the middle of the 2026 season in an effort to make a giant push for 82 wins? What are we doing?
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Just when I thought the bar could not be lower for this organization...
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Man, the Pohlads have set the bar so unbelievably low. The deadline was the definition of a half measure. A couple relievers and a #6 starter who wouldn't make a playoff roster is not "going big". Their ceiling pre-deadline was squeak into the playoffs, and it remains that. They didn't commit to making a big push this year, nor did they complete the rebuild they started in 2025. Half measure all around. I'm not even saying this was a bad decision in a tricky year. But it's 100% a half measure. The 2027/8/9 teams didn't get better, and the 2026 team improved less than almost all the teams they are chasing. Their payroll is still absurdly low, roster is still poorly constructed, and they don't have a single proven playoff starter. Right now their playoff rotation would be Bradley, TBD, TBD, and TBD. This wasn't a serious roster before the deadline and it isn't now. I understand why they held onto Jeffers, but leadership is about making tough decisions for the benefit of the organization. I hope the 30ish additional games he gives us in a our push toward 81 wins are worth the sting of losing him for nothing in the offseason. I just know that the Brewers and Rays would have traded him. So the Twins spend one deadline decimating their bullpen, and the next one rebuilding it. I'll ask the same question I've been asking for decades: what's the plan here?
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The Shape of a Trade Deadline
Woof Bronzer replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Good points and I understand your perspective, even if I don't totally agree. But I really don't think holding onto Jeffers is going to put 7-8000 butts in the seats. However I do think that selling right now won't play great, you are right....but part of leadership is making tough decisions for the present AND the future, not just throwing red meat to fans.
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Fair points, though I think Sano actually WAS held back, I want to say he debuted midseason. Berrios?
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Do you have an example of someone the Twins promoted prior to that extra year kicking in? I'm sure there are, but I can't recall any. I do remember they played games with Buxton's service time. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/byron-buxton-and-september-service-time-manipulations/ Quote from the article: “I think part of our jobs is we’re supposed to be responsible to factoring service time into every decision we make,” Levine said. That doesn't scream "when he's ready he's up" to me.
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I'm not sure your "we" includes all of us. I want the Twins to be legitimate contenders. We've been making Dean Kremer like moves for decades and it never works. Losing Jeffers for nothing is definitely not going to help us get there either. If we want to have some of the success of the Brewers, Rays, etc we might want to ask ourselves what they would do in this situation. The Brewers traded their closer a few years ago while they were leading the division! I'm sure it was a brief PR disaster, but that trade led to them getting Wilson Contreras and they have absolutely been legitimate contenders for the past 2-3 years now. I bet you'd be hard pressed to find a Brewers fan mad about that trade in hindsight. To get where "we" want the Twins have to raise their ceiling, not their floor. I'm surprised, Chief - you don't seem like the kind of fellow who would prioritize PR over smart baseball decisions.
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Right and if the Twins are seriously going to make a playoff push, how does that help this team? All the conversation is around the trade market. There's another way the Twins can improve their team and it won't cost them a thing! Try out some young guys. This is an old, bad lineup. The risk that playing some guys who may not bet 100% polished and ready is going to tank an otherwise successful season is so, so low... No guarantee about anything, it could flame out and they miss the playoffs. Oh well, if the season ended today they'd miss the playoffs too. I'm getting more and more "half measure" vibes around the deadline...the Twins are going to nibble at a couple relievers, hold on to their assets, and that's it. The absolute worst thing they could do in my opinion. Commit to SOMETHING. Make a decision, and do everything to follow through on it. Either really, seriously push for the playoffs and worry about the future when it comes, or commit to completing the rebuild, punt on an unknown 2027, and say we're winning the dang AL in 2028. Calling up Gray is such a passive move. If the Twins truly feel like he's the best they can do then just give up on the season and sell.
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I get this sentiment, but man, we've been planning for a future that never comes for 30+ years now...
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Compared to what Tristan Gray is doing Jenkins is Babe Ruth. We've seen Gray. He's a net negative performer both offensively and defensively. Adding him makes the team incrementally worse. "Jenkins hasn't been exceptional so it's better to call up a player who has been significantly worse" doesn't make a lot of sense to me. We don't know what Jenkins will do. I'm fairly confident it will be better that what we know Gray will do.
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Baseball Gods to Tom Pohlad: 'Aight, Bet'
Woof Bronzer replied to Matthew Trueblood's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
The thing is, the data supports the idea that, yep, there's a lot of luck involved. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/yes-the-playoffs-are-still-a-crapshoot/- 128 replies
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I care for fellow man enough to trust fellow man to have their own thoughts and opinions, and not obsess over whether their thoughts are good or bad. Telling people to just think good thoughts, where "good" is defined solely by you, is bizarre, antisocial behavior. Goodbye, Gregggggggg.
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"Get over yourself" is advice that I'm offering to you, so that it may help you, a fellow man, in your life. I care about you, Gregggggg! In my experience, telling others how smart you are and how stupid they are if they have differing beliefs, is a good way to ensure you will have a lonely existence. But hey, looks like it's working out great for you!
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You aren't answering the question Greggggg! What does all of this have to do with telling other people how to think? I want to know why you care so much about how strangers form opinions.
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