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Wasn't Diplan DFA'd? The Twins could have made this move anytime.

 

Confidence is disappearing for me. Doesn't make me root for the players any less - but my thoughts on the front office - less than cordial right now.

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Just watch: Twins make no further moves, lose AL Central to Cleveland, miss Wild Card as A’s and Rays surge over a Twins team that from here on out loses steam. Next year we miss out on the playoffs with a pedestrian 81-81 record.

 

If that happens, you have to wonder what Falvey and Levine would have done to justify keeping their jobs...

 

2017 - they cut bait with a team too early and it turned into Major League. Trying to win despite the front office not thinking you can.

 

2018 - a step back.

 

2019 - total collapse / choke job.

 

Then again, when ownership is this stingy and disinterested, I guess it doesn't matter who runs the front office. Figure heads.

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Interesting with the August waiver/trade month disappearing. 

 

Now you have to WANT to trade an asset. The msot popular assets to trade, when teams MIGHT seem desperate, are pending free agents, and prospects that are needing to be added to the 40-man roster.

 

Even if your team is not in contention, there is NO NEED to trade players you still control, unless you see arbittration year two (or especially year three) being enormously expensive.

 

If teams are truly dumping potential free agent assets, anything goes. Be interesting to see who does move in the last minutes for something, anything.

 

Otherwise, will be curious to see what happens in August with high priced players/free-agents to be. Would, say, the Diamondbacks put Grienke out there just to rid themselves of the contract and would someone grab that contract (does that supercede any "no trade" clauses)? 

 

Some teams are being crafty (Mets for one). Some are just picking up sub-pieces to patch some holes. The Bauer trade was unique, but it would be like the Mets trading Sven for Byron, each team would be getting something they need for now AND the future, not just taking a gamble on prospects THAT MAY NEVER PAN OUT.

 

July 31 might just be TO EARLY for teams to pull the plug. Are you forcing teams, instead, to keep their players (or release them outright) in order to tank going into late August and all of September? Will this "new" trade guideline actually create a better free agent market for the future (trying to still run that around the brain). Instead, you seem to just be trading $$$$, transferring payload from one team to another short term. Some teams signing low-end free agents seem to be getting soemthing abck in the deal. Some who did it (like our Twins), just saw the guys linger and then grabbed for modest cash return (Twins basically got money or money relief from the losses of Morin, Magill, Parker, Mejia...all of whom seemed to have some merit for signing with another team, but not enough to bring back a low-level player even). 

 

The only frustration with the Twins is that they MIGHT NOT be able to turn prospects on the cusp of need-to-be-added-to-40-man with no room, or potentially a free agent, or maybe being passed over in the pecking order (Gonsalves, Romero, Gordon, Wade come as an example). But these are far from the marquee prospects someone would wish to trade anything of substance, with the thought that they might just be available for little or nothing by the time next season rolls around.

 

 

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Just watch: Twins make no further moves, lose AL Central to Cleveland, miss Wild Card as A’s and Rays surge over a Twins team that from here on out loses steam. Next year we miss out on the playoffs with a pedestrian 81-81 record.

Can we let anything play out before doomsday predictions,? 

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I guess Diplan can take Lewin Diaz's place in this offseason's 40-man crunch.

Should be fewer 'hard' choices at Diplan's position than Diaz's position, though. Diplan will have a couple of months to audition to keep his 40-man spot at a position of need, and it didn't cost anything. Not what this thread is about, but good nevertheless.

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Should be fewer 'hard' choices at Diplan's position than Diaz's position, though. Diplan will have a couple of months to audition to keep his 40-man spot at a position of need, and it didn't cost anything. Not what this thread is about, but good nevertheless.

More like 1 month left to audition, unless he comes up to Minnesota in September, which seems like a longshot given his AA numbers.

 

Kind of a crowd too for pitchers, no? We're still auditioning/rotating quite a few ahead of Diplan...

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I don't see much trading happening by the Twins or anyone else.  Maybe there will be a flurry, but the asking prices are too high for a lot of teams to mortgage the future for a maybe.

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I wonder who took the Diplan phone call. 

 

With an hour left on the clock... I'm hoping that Falvey or Lavine are not spending time wrapping up the Diplan deal.  :)

 

If I was going to b a pessimist, I'd say they wanted this guy, but not until they knew they weren't going to fill the three remaining 40-man spots today. 

 

Still got two open spots though. Minor and Leclerc.

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Braves grabbed Shane Greene.

 

Lots of contenders making moves, looks like the time's almost up....still time yet but the Twins haven't been mentioned once all day....honestly I'm stunned.

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