Parker Hageman Site Manager Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 The Minnesota Twins finally got their man. After being on the precipice of a deal with the Atlanta Braves for left-handed starter Jaime Garcia last week, only to have the deal fall apart based on the medical reports of Twins prospect Nick Burdi, the two sides have agreed on a trade: In exchange for hard-throwing prospect Huascar Ynoa the Twins will receive Garcia as well as catcher Anthony Recker.Despite the 4-7 record and 4.30 ERA, Garcia was having a decent season for the Braves. With a ground ball rate over 50%, Garcia has shown the ability to keep the ball in the park this season (especially compared to 2016) but his walk rate is the highest it has been since his 2010 campaign with the Cardinals. In many regards he is a superior version of Hector Santiago. He represents a definite upgrade at the backend of the rotation – replacing either Kyle Gibson, Aldaberto Mejia or Bartolo Colon. Garcia is coming off one of his better starts of the season against the sizzling Los Angeles Dodgers, holding them to three runs on seven hits in seven innings of work. According to Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal, the performance increased his stock and reportedly up to six teams were interested in the veteran. The Twins also get back another catcher, the 33-year-old Recker, who had been playing in AAA Gwinnett. While Recker displayed power in his younger minor league days, he has transformed into a light-hitting backstop after stops in the Oakland and Mets organization. To make room for Recker on the 40-man roster, the Twins will send Rule 5 draft right-handed Justin Haley back to the Red Sox organization. Going east is teenage right-hander Ynoa who signed out of the Dominican in 2014 for $800,000. As a 15-year-old, Ynoa was throwing 91 but over the last few years, that velocity has more or less stayed the same. He can reach into the mid-90s but has been sitting in the lower 90s. Consistency has also been a problem. In 25.2 innings with Elizabethton, he has compiled a 5.26 ERA with a 23/14 K/BB ratio in six starts. According to David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Twins will pay approximately $4.8 million of Garcia's remaining salary while the Braves will cover the $100,000 remaining on Recker. Corresponding roster moves will be announced after tonight's game against the Dodgers. Click here to view the article glunn and nicksaviking 2
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Hmm, looks pretty good to me - Ynoa? Should I feel bad about this? Playlist addition: Queen, We are the champions.... GP830, glunn and dgwills 3
youngpadawan Provisional Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Even better than giving up Burdi. I like the trade. Danchat, darin617, olivia11 and 7 others 10
GP830 Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Seems like a good trade for the Twins! bluechipper and glunn 2
raindog Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Good trade. Was terrified to see who the Twins gave up, but Ynoa seems like a fair trade. bluechipper, Dave The Dastardly, markos and 2 others 5
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 So here was the last post of the other thread - us early adopters, punished always.... In before thread consolidation.As Spock would say, "Wanting, is sometimes better than having." We'll see.Any chance he gets to hit another grand slam in Chavez Ravine? glunn 1
vessey Provisional Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 What does acquiring the catcher mean? Giving up on JR Murphy or moving Garver?
TonyInOmaha Provisional Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Good trade to help the rotation this season without giving up a top prospect. Intrigued by what move might follow acquiring Recker. glunn 1
Roaddog Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Why the 33 year old catcher? I like the trade. Ynoa hasn't showed much yet glunn 1
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Hmm, looks pretty good to me - Ynoa? Should I feel bad about this? ....I don't think so but he does have upside. Sickels like him a lot. markos 1
70charger Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) I was intrigued by Ynoa, but as others have said, you have to get to give. I acknowledge that Ynoa is very much a lottery ticket, so as much as I'd like to see him succeed, he's so far away you gotta think this probably doesn't come back to bite you. Edited July 24, 2017 by 70charger glunn and Hosken Bombo Disco 2
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Ynoa seems like a long ways away. Recker has bounced around a lot. Good trade, really hope this settles the backend of the rotation. bluechipper and glunn 2
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 I wonder if Garcia will be available to pinch hit tonight. ashbury, nicksaviking, Joe A. Preusser and 14 others 17
Mill1634 Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Maybe the Twins have a deal in place for Garver? That or they are giving up on Giminez/JRM. Don't think Chris goes though. Seems as if he is very popular in the clubhouse
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 I for one am very happy that Baddoo isn't going back to Georgia. Or that the prospect goung the other way is not Blankenhorn. Very sensible acquistion by the front office. glunn, Dman, wabene and 3 others 6
dbminn Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 What does acquiring the catcher mean? Giving up on JR Murphy or moving Garver? My guess is that he's AAA insurance for a Garver callup. There is an outside chance the Twins are putting together another trade that involves Garver but I'd be surprised if that happened. DocBauer, bluechipper, LA Vikes Fan and 5 others 8
Guest Guests Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Rather give up Ynoa than Burdi. Getting the catcher allows backfilling in Rochester if Garver is called up, assuming he doesn't have the right to decline.
70charger Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Maybe useful to some here: http://twinsdaily.com/topic/22455-huascar-ynoa-2016/ A little refresher course, though it's from last season. dbminn and glunn 2
EddieMatthews Provisional Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Why the 33 year old catcher? I like the trade. Ynoa hasn't showed much yetRecker has pitching experience. nicksaviking, Oxtung, glunn and 6 others 9
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 It's a good trade. Garcia is a solid pitcher who can be counted on. The Twins 3/4/5 situation has been a disaster all season long. Sucks giving up a young pitcher with promise, but it's not like the Twins have been able to develop any young throwers anyways over the last 10 years (sans Berrios) snepp, bighat, bluechipper and 1 other 4
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Recker is AAA filler. Depth never hurts. bighat 1
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Miles Tones, on 24 Jul 2017 - 5:25 PM, said:I really value your insights, so... why don't you like it? Because Garcia is a rental? Ynoa is too high a price? Would you have preferred Burdi instead of Ynoa?NOTE: I consider Recker as useful as a bag of scuffed up batting practice balls. The Twins are more than one backend starting pitcher away from contending for a playoff spot in 2017, mathematically speaking the Twins have a little over 10% chance of making the playoffs and about a 3% chance of winning the division. Granted Ynoa is not Romero, Gonsalves, etc at this point but yes he is a recently turned 19 year old and is in short season A ball, he also has all the talent to stay a starter. He signed for 800K as a 16 year old, if you want a translation or conversion think of it as a draft pick, you'd trade your 2nd round pick in the draft for 2 months of Jaime Garcia? Personally, I wouldn't. Dman, Oxtung, sftwinsfan and 4 others 7
whydidnt Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Yes, this seems like a decent deal. Ynoa has upside, but is a long way away, and isn't excelling. Garcia is better than what we had, which probably isn't saying a lot, but he's an established back end of the rotation guy. I'd much rather see him on the mound than Colon, Gibson or Santiago.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 I wonder if they are trading Giminez to call up Garver. Not losing sleep over this one. Liked Ynoa, but he's got a long way to go. 70charger and SF Twins Fan 2
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 I'd say fair. And I'm betting Garver is up very soon and a return to a 7 man bullpen.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Granted Ynoa is not Romero, Gonsalves, etc at this point but yes he is a recently turned 19 year old and is in short season A ball, he also has all the talent to stay a starter. He signed for 800K as a 16 year old, if you want a translation or conversion think of it as a draft pick, you'd trade your 2nd round pick in the draft for 2 months of Jaime Garcia? Personally, I wouldn't.Well, that was what Burdi was. wabene, twinssouth and d-mac 3
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 I'd trade a lot of former 1st or 2nd round picks for Garcia Bob Sacamento, bluechipper, twinssouth and 2 others 5
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Even better than giving up Burdi. I like the trade.We're talking about the same kid who had tommy john surgery and the Braves didn't like his medical report since then. I'd be more worried about that if I was a Twins' fan. d-mac, wsnydes, HitInAPinch and 2 others 5
Miles Tones Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 The Twins are more than one backend starting pitcher away from contending for a playoff spot in 2017, mathematically speaking the Twins have a little over 10% chance of making the playoffs and about a 3% chance of winning the division. Granted Ynoa is not Romero, Gonsalves, etc at this point but yes he is a recently turned 19 year old and is in short season A ball, he also has all the talent to stay a starter. He signed for 800K as a 16 year old, if you want a translation or conversion think of it as a draft pick, you'd trade your 2nd round pick in the draft for 2 months of Jaime Garcia? Personally, I wouldn't.Thanks for the response! Good perspective.
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 I'd trade a lot of former 1st or 2nd round picks for Garcia But would you trade your 2018 2nd round pick for him? So wish baseball allowed draft pick trades ahead of time.
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