The Twins Could Look Completely Different After the Trade Deadline

[Mike Sixel]

14 minutes ago, Bodie said:

In re Wallner:

Just because you were willing to date Raquel Welsh did nothing to increase those odds.

 

Wallner gets released. That is his end.  A trade is just as likely as that date at the Copacabana with Ms. Welsh because you are willing!

No chance they release him. Why would they? 

[mark allen]

I don't give up on this year, but still trade Ryan Ober Jeffers Bell, 

 

[MMBoys93]

2 hours ago, Motherhen said:

They nabbed Clemens from Philly.

But he started his career in Detroit. That was my point 

[terrydactyls]

Buy- Buy - Buy.

The Twins till have a small chance to be a wildcard team and get bounced in the first round.

 

[gman]

I'd do the same as last year and trade our top 5 bullpen arms.🤫 Anybody know who that is? Winning a division by 2 games over 500(at best) doesn't exactly thrill me much, unless you enjoy watching the team getting its teeth kicked in.

I'd trade or attempt to trade the same players already addressed by others here. Although with Wallner if he can't hit anything over 95 any more, I might plan on cutting him after the season. No reason to give away players for nothing, if the offers just aren't there.

I've been watching bad baseball long enough, I'd prefer to see the team try to improve as much as possible by deadline trades and bringing in rookies the last 2 months of the year. Another year of just scraping by doesn't really do it for me.

[ashbury]

2 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

The Twins have no choice but to keep picking up waiver wire relievers and rolling the dice on them.

(I think this is correct. All the guys we think of were actually minor trades or "cash considerations".)

[DJL44]

I actually want them to go for it in 2027. Pablo will be back - Ryan, Lopez and Bradley is a great start to a rotation. Prielipp, Matthews, Rojas round it out. 

I think Lee, Culpepper, Clemens and Lewis is a decent infield. Caratini is a decent C. There are outfield bats in AAA who could be really good next season (Roden, Rodriguez, Jenkins, Gonzalez and even Mendez). 

They need a bullpen and they could have one for about $20M. They have plenty of payroll room to make that happen.

I’m selling Jeffers, Larnach, Ober, Bell, Banda, and Rogers. Everyone else they had better make a stupid offer to obtain.

[old nurse]

54 minutes ago, ashbury said:

(I think this is correct. All the guys we think of were actually minor trades or "cash considerations".)

Lawrence was a waiver wire pickup from the Nationals. He was also picked back up from the waiver wire pile from the twins DFAing him . There are pitchers signed as free agents who were DFA, nobody picked them up, they elected free agency, and then they signed as a free agent with twins.  I think the correct term might be scrap heap. 

[Mike Sixel]

48 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

I actually want them to go for it in 2027. Pablo will be back - Ryan, Lopez and Bradley is a great start to a rotation. Prielipp, Matthews, Rojas round it out. 

I think Lee, Culpepper, Clemens and Lewis is a decent infield. Caratini is a decent C. There are outfield bats in AAA who could be really good next season (Roden, Rodriguez, Jenkins, Gonzalez and even Mendez). 

They need a bullpen and they could have one for about $20M. They have plenty of payroll room to make that happen.

I’m selling Jeffers, Larnach, Ober, Bell, Banda, and Rogers. Everyone else they had better make a stupid offer to obtain.

I certainly understand this, and wouldn't be totally opposed to keeping Ryan. I'd deal him, but I'd be OK if they tried to win next year(i have zero confidence the Pohlads will ever try to win, though).

[ashbury]

1 hour ago, old nurse said:

Lawrence was a waiver wire pickup from the Nationals. He was also picked back up from the waiver wire pile from the twins DFAing him . There are pitchers signed as free agents who were DFA, nobody picked them up, they elected free agency, and then they signed as a free agent with twins.  I think the correct term might be scrap heap. 

Interesting but not relevant.  I'll ask again, what pitcher on the current 40-man is a waiver wire pickup?

Not that I think it's super important.  If anything, it's a bit more damning, to pay cash to jump out in front before a player of the caliber they wind up with is exposed to waivers, or trade a prospect of any value for one of them.  

Still, for all the roster churn and the gnashing of teeth here on TD, the current state of the roster is that none of the waiver wire pickups is responsible for the continuing weakness of the bullpen (or back end of the rotation).  I just thought it was an interesting datapoint / factoid.

Don't blame the waiver wire pickups.  Blame the fact that more significant pickups haven't been made.

[Dman]

7 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Unless I'm blown away, I keep Clemens. I also keep Gomez unless there is a ridiculous offer. 

I agree on Clemens.  I get that he is older as people point out, but he is so good in so many places I think he is harder to replace than other realize.  He also appears to be a great locker room guy\leader.  For what he brings just keep him IMO.  

Gomez too much control left and would take a huge offer to move.  I don't another team taking that risk and with the pen in shambles they need arms for high leverage.  I'd keep him.

[Dman]

4 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Me and others have said this for many months. This season was already decided on July 31, 2025 when they decimated the bullpen. The roster needs to be turned over because a bad bullpen and bad defense won’t win squat. 

I’ve been waiting for this organization to turn it over to the next wave of prospects. As soon as Culpepper is healthy get him up here. Walker Jenkins and Alan Roden. 

The Twins have no choice but to keep picking up waiver wire relievers and rolling the dice on them. I’d just prefer they’re under 28 with an option or 3 left. 

I would just add that look what better athletes and defense and has done for the White Sox.  They are a good team now.  We need to match that with guys better than Larnach and Wallner in the outfield.  As well as  better infield defense.  Saving runs is important just like creating runs.  I don't know if our young players will work out or not, but we need to try as it is the best way for this team to move forward and compete with better teams.