Cory Moen Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Image courtesy of © Geoff Burke-Imagn Images Box Score Starting Pitcher: Bailey Ober - 5 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 3 K (82 pitches, 52 strikes (63.4% strikes)) Home Runs: Matt Wallner (4) Bottom 3 WPA (via FanGraphs): Ober (-0.31), Byron Buxton (-0.09), Brooks Lee (-0.08) Win Probability Chart (via FanGraphs) Coming off an offensive outburst in game one of the series, the Twins handed the ball to Bailey Ober to face the Nationals and veteran starting pitcher Miles Mikolas Wednesday night. Ober was coming off three straight quality starts. Mikolas was struggling coming into the game, and has been struggling for multiple seasons, really. Both Ober and Mikolas started with two perfect innings, so it was starting to look like a potential pitcher’s duel. The Twins got the first baserunner on a leadoff check-swing double by Luke Keaschall in the top of the third inning, his eighth double of the season. In the very next at-bat, Matt Wallner hit a 106-MPH single, giving the Twins a 1-0 lead. The Nationals finally broke through in the bottom of the fourth inning, on a CJ Abrams one-out double to tie the game. The tie didn’t last long, as the Twins took the lead in the top of the fifth on a Wallner solo home run. You may not believe me, but I was talking to my dad on the phone and I called the homer. (I guess, maybe, you'll believe me this one time, since Mikolas was pitching.) The Nationals responded in the bottom of the fifth, though, on a Drew Millas two-run home run, after a leadoff single by Jacob Young. Ober was chased from the game in the sixth inning, after giving up back-to-back doubles to Abrams and Brady House, giving the Nationals a two-run lead. Jose Tena greeted Andrew Morris with a double of his own, stretching the lead to three runs. The Twins rookie wasn’t able to get out of the inning after giving up a two-out triple to Nationals second baseman Nasim Nuñez, making it 6-2. The Twins were into their pen, and the rout was soon on. The Nationals added insult to injury on a House two-run home run in the bottom of the seventh inning off of Justin Topa. Topa and Luis García went to pieces, and the game turned from that taut early battle into a bruising blowout by a bad team. Tena didn’t want to be left out of the home run party, adding a solo shot of his own and giving the Nationals a 15-2 lead. Former Twin Zak Kent made his debut with the Nationals by pitching a scoreless ninth inning. The Twins will look to forget about this game and move on quickly in the final game of the series in DC. What’s Next? The Twins and Nationals will face off on Thursday afternoon in game three of the series. The Twins will send Simeon Woods Richardson (0-5, 6.49 ERA), while the Nationals will counter with Minnesota native Jake Irvin (1-4, 4.93 ERA). Woods Richardson will look to get on track after struggling for much of the year thus far. In his most recent start, he threw 4 2/3 innings and gave up four earned run in a loss to the Toronto Blue Jays. After tomorrow’s game, the Twins will travel to Cleveland to face the Guardians in a three-game series. SAT SUN MON TUE WED TOT Orze 0 24 0 16 0 40 Morris 0 57 0 0 14 71 Rogers 0 32 0 0 0 32 Garcia 18 0 0 13 14 45 Banda 18 0 0 19 0 37 Topa 10 17 0 0 32 59 Funderburk 14 3 0 0 17 34 Klein 12 0 0 0 0 12 View full article
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Do we really have not a single pitcher or two marginally better than some of these guys we’re trotting out there? There isn’t one guy in the minors better than Garcia? Yikes. darwin22, Wedman13, Punto4President and 8 others 11
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Good thing they dropped Kent so that they could pick up Garcia. Three hits on the offensive side of the ball. These guys are either fun or unwatchable, but it’s mostly unwatchable. h2oface, glunn, Alex Wilde and 1 other 4
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 We’ve seen a lot of terrible relievers in a SSS over the years. Luis Garcia might be the worst of them all. Alex Wilde, mark allen, mikelink45 and 5 others 8
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Vanimal46 said: We’ve seen a lot of terrible relievers in a SSS over the years. Luis Garcia might be the worst of them all. Bro threw 14 pitches and gave up 5 runs 😂 Hunter4848, tarheeltwinsfan, Danchat and 7 others 6 3 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Aggies7 said: Bro threw 14 pitches and gave up 5 runs 😂 I thought Joey Wentz was going to hold that crown for a long time after his 15.75 ERA in 8 innings last season. Give Garcia another 5 innings here and his ERA might be over 30. Aggies7, Danchat and Sjoski 3
Jacksson Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 What an embarrassment. Both Topa and Garcia need to be DFA IMMEDIATELY, Should have DFA Garcia and kept Roa. Should have kept Kent also. Both Clemens and Wallner are looking up at the Mendoza Line. Punto4President, Sjoski, tarheeltwinsfan and 1 other 4
just-a-fan Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 When will we see change? Seems to be no repercussions for lack of performance, same guys same lack of execution. Will this be the game that forces front office to make some changes? Peter, darwin22 and Punto4President 3
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 It really isn't much to say after a game like this but Garcia today is the same player that we've seen each of his turns and that's bad. Topa was supposed to be someone we could count on but I don't see it. As a matter of fact it's hard to find somebody in our bullpen they can give us a clean inning. tarheeltwinsfan, Blyleven2011, darwin22 and 1 other 4
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Topa hanging around as a little reminder of one of the worst trades in team history. Linus, Jeff K, Hunter4848 and 4 others 2 4 1
DJL44 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Jacksson said: Should have DFA Garcia and kept Roa. Should have kept Kent also.. Roa would walk in a bunch of runs instead of giving up dingers. None of those pitchers will help. Patzky and tarheeltwinsfan 2
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 5 minutes ago, USAFChief said: Topa hanging around as a little reminder of one of the worst trades in team history. Come on, they traded one year of Polanco who hit .213 (.651 OPS) and could have re-signed him after 2024 or 2025. As I said at the time of the trade, Gonzalez was the most valuable part of the trade and they could have chosen to use him as a trade chip (instead of continue to hoard OF prospects and not play them). We are talking about one year of control of turned out to be a 1.3 WAR 2B, it's hard for that to be a all-timer bad trade when we didn't give up very much. Bodie, DJL44, FlyingFinn and 7 others 8 2
DJL44 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 9 minutes ago, USAFChief said: Topa hanging around as a little reminder of one of the worst trades in team history. The one where the Twins traded away an expensive season of a poor performing player? darwin22, Jeff K, Wedman13 and 6 others 7 2
DJL44 Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Jacksson said: Both Clemens and Wallner are looking up at the Mendoza Line. Can we save the Wallner bashing for the games where he didn’t drive in all the team’s runs? HarmonK03, cammos10, Wedman13 and 6 others 9
Rosterman Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Let's see what the Twins next visit to The Dollar Store will bring. Maybe they need to try Savers, or Goodwill. h2oface, Milwaukee-Jeff and Hunter4848 3
Blyleven2011 Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 This one was ugly because the twins are lacking pitching of any kind from the bullpen ... I was happy last night with the way they played the game ... Tonight it was wallners night , 2 hits and his first homerun for quite sometime , the only other hit was a check swing double by keaschall ... I was not happy with tonight's performance ... Embarrassing ugly loss tonight ... glunn, knothole61 and Peter 3
Mahoning Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Wallner has had two good games in a row; opposite field extra base hits in both. Could it be that he has figured something out? And then there's Royce Lewis . . . hitting .167. What must be going through his mind? glunn, Punto4President and mikelink45 3
tony&rodney Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Ober is confusing. He was rolling along and seemed to run out of energy. He looks like he could pitch all day, but he tires quickly at times. glunn, Milwaukee-Jeff and h2oface 3
Jacksson Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 What are the Pitching Coach, Bullpen Coach, Hitting Coach and Assistant Hitting Coaches doing to justify having a job? I get the whole silk purse - sow's ear bit; but the coaches are supposed to be coaching up the "talent" we have AND if that pitcher/player ability just isn't there, the powers that be must be told so decisions can be made on whether or not those pitchers/players belong on this team's roster. glunn, mikelink45, DJL44 and 1 other 2 2
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 14 minutes ago, Jacksson said: What are the Pitching Coach, Bullpen Coach, Hitting Coach and Assistant Hitting Coaches doing to justify having a job? I get the whole silk purse - sow's ear bit; but the coaches are supposed to be coaching up the "talent" we have AND if that pitcher/player ability just isn't there, the powers that be must be told so decisions can be made on whether or not those pitchers/players belong on this team's roster. Almost all of the younger pitchers on the team minus SWR are hitting or exceeding my expectations, the 4 relievers that are 32+ years old are the worst ones on the team. Until today, Ober's results have far exceeded my expectations for him... IMO the coaches are doing their jobs. They have the least talented group of veteran relievers in the league, that's not on them. Western SD Fan, DJL44, Punto4President and 3 others 6
howeda7 Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Sign Kopech and someone else form this list. Anyone. They have to better than what we have. And for God's sake bench Josh Bell and play Martin every day. Bell now has worse #'s than Wallner. Right-Handed Relievers Kendall Graveman (35) Chad Green (35) Michael Kopech (30) Max Kranick (28) Adam Ottavino (40) Erasmo Ramirez (36) Chris Stratton (35) Punto4President and Milwaukee-Jeff 2
knothole61 Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 3 hours ago, Aggies7 said: Bro threw 14 pitches and gave up 5 runs 😂 Only charged with 2, but I get your point! I don't understand why they keep trotting him out there, although it's best to do so down 10-2 in the 8th of course. The Twins brain trust must be beguiled by the fact that he can hit 96-97 on the gun, but he's really, really bad. tarheeltwinsfan 1
knothole61 Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 3 hours ago, Jacksson said: What an embarrassment. Both Topa and Garcia need to be DFA IMMEDIATELY, Should have DFA Garcia and kept Roa. Should have kept Kent also. Both Clemens and Wallner are looking up at the Mendoza Line. I'm hip about Wallner's failings this year...but when he hits 'em, he really hits 'em! Milwaukee-Jeff and glunn 2
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Hey! We got 3 hits, and 2 were Wallner! At least this team is consistent…… …..ly inconsistent.
Peter Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Ugly loss-win today and take series Patzky, DJL44, tarheeltwinsfan and 1 other 4
big dog Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 So glad we just bought a new reliever who is on a different team every few weeks. These guys are gold, we just have to work that Pete Maki Magic on them! If they can just try 20 or 30 more they are bound to find one who is at least league-average. Hunter4848, HarmonK03, tarheeltwinsfan and 1 other 4
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 9 hours ago, DJL44 said: Can we save the Wallner bashing for the games where he didn’t drive in all the team’s runs? No. Milwaukee-Jeff, Blyleven2011, Hunter4848 and 1 other 2 1 1
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 8 hours ago, tony&rodney said: Ober is confusing. He was rolling along and seemed to run out of energy. He looks like he could pitch all day, but he tires quickly at times. Would Ober be a good reliever? Punto4President 1
Milwaukee-Jeff Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 It's going to be a season where .500 will be considered "exceeding expectations." I'd like to see some player movement - and soon. Bringing in arms like Topa and Garcia can't inspire confidence in anyone. Woods Richardson needs to go to the bullpen. It's hindsight, of course, but what they did at the trade deadline last year was a disaster. They could at least have kept Varland. Wedman13 1
Jeff K Verified Member Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Is it posibleI that Wallner is awakening from his season long slumber? Who will the Twins pick up next off the discount rack for relief pitching? I see that Paddack is available...pass MinnInPa and Punto4President 1 1
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