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On a recent episode of Gleeman and the Geek, Aaron Gleeman and John Bonnes spent time discussing the fallout from Carlos Correa’s trade away from the Twins. Amid the disappointment of his exit, Gleeman raised an interesting notion: that Correa might actually be the best shortstop in Twins history. At first, that sounds bold. But when you look deeper, the argument gains serious traction.

Correa’s time in Minnesota was defined by flashes of brilliance, mixed with stretches of frustration. Injuries constantly limited him, including plantar fasciitis, back tightness, and even a concussion, yet he still managed to deliver in some big moments. His steady leadership and clutch hitting helped the Twins snap their postseason misery with a Wild Card win over the Toronto Blue Jays in 2023. Without him, that decades-long playoff losing streak might still hang like a cloud over the franchise.

In four seasons with Minnesota, Correa hit .271/.345/.440, with a 118 OPS+ and 10.4 rWAR. That number doesn’t leap off the page compared to the franchise’s all-time WAR leaders at the position (Roy Smalley, Zoilo Versalles, Jorge Polanco, and Greg Gagne), but context matters. Correa accumulated those numbers in fewer than 2,000 plate appearances. All four of those players logged more than 3,500 plate appearances with the Twins, making WAR a measure of longevity as much as value. On a per-game basis, Correa arguably produced at a higher level than any of them.

Roy Smalley (20.9 fWAR)
Smalley was Minnesota’s steady hand at shortstop through much of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Known for his discipline and switch-hitting ability, Smalley’s 20.9 fWAR remains the highest by a Twins shortstop. In 10 seasons, he hit .262/.350/.401 with a 104 OPS+. He made an All-Star team in 1979, and was one of the first shortstops of his era to blend patience with moderate power. However, he never posted the elite defensive metrics or enjoyed the postseason moments that define Correa’s career. Smalley’s strength was consistency, not dominance.

Zoilo Versalles (16.0 fWAR)
The first truly great shortstop in franchise history, Versalles was the 1965 AL MVP, leading the AL with a 7.2 rWAR. He was the spark plug for the Twins’ pennant-winning team that year. His blend of power and speed made him one of the most dynamic players of the 1960s. However, his peak was short-lived. After his MVP campaign, his production declined sharply, and he never regained that level of success. Versalles’s legacy is tied to one incredible season, rather than sustained excellence.

Jorge Polanco (15.3 fWAR)
Polanco began his Twins career as a middle infield prospect and grew into a dependable offensive contributor. His 15.3 fWAR ranks third among Minnesota shortstops, though much of that came while he split time between short and second base. His 2019 All-Star season stands out, but defensive struggles eventually pushed him off shortstop full-time. Polanco is one of the most underrated Twins players of this era, but he didn’t offer the same defensive impact as Correa.

Greg Gagne (14.6 fWAR)
Gagne’s calling card was defense. He wasn’t flashy with the bat (83 OPS+), but he provided stability and range at a premium position during the Twins’ championship years in 1987 and 1991. His 14.6 fWAR is primarily built on durability and defensive consistency. He never reached Correa’s offensive ceiling, but his steady play helped define an era of Twins baseball that valued reliability over star power.

Each of these players left a mark on the Twins in a different way. Smalley was the technician, Versalles the flash of brilliance, Polanco the modern offensive threat, and Gagne the glue guy of two World Series teams. Correa’s story is different, because it was shorter, but more efficient. His offensive rate stats, defensive prowess, and leadership on the field gave the Twins a superstar-caliber shortstop for the first time in decades. Even if his time ended in disappointment and a trade, his impact on the organization’s culture and postseason success is undeniable.

Ranking the Top Five Twins Shortstops

  1. Roy Smalley – The model of consistency with offensive longevity.
  2. Carlos Correa – Strong defense, leadership, and postseason heroics set him apart despite a short tenure.
  3. Zoilo Versalles – The only Twins shortstop to win an MVP, but his peak was brief.
  4. Greg Gagne – Championship pedigree and steady defense earn him a spot on the list.
  5. Jorge Polanco – Productive hitter but limited as a shortstop defensively.

Looking at the big picture, shortstop has rarely been a position of enduring strength in Twins history. Few players have combined elite offense and defense over multiple seasons, which makes Correa’s brief run in Minnesota feel even more significant. Even with his exit, his name belongs near the top of the list of the best shortstops to ever wear a Twins uniform. For some fans, that might be a tough reality, but shortstop is a black hole in Twins history. 


How would your top five list look for the best shortstops in Twins history? Leave a comment and start the discussion.


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The ranking is close - I think Guzman and his six year 7.6 WAR needs to be on the list.  I would take him and his speed and range over Polanco as a SS (I am not thinking about other positions for Polanco.   I would put Cardenas 3 years and 11.1 WAR above all of them.  

Correa was good, but not what was advertised.   I think Cardenas is number 1, Smalley 2, Gagne 3 Correa 4 (although on the short span Vesalles was better than him) and Guzman above Polanco.  

Meares and Barlett are honorable mentions.  

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Correa, the best Twins shortstop? No, not at all. I actually don't believe it is close. Top five? Ok.

Looking only at Correa's time as a Twin we see a player who struggled with foot issues and staying fully healthy. Correa still was very good and I thought it was a terrible decision to just give him back to Houston and pay part of his salary and the bonus payments to boot. I think we saw a big drop off from a healthy Carlos Correa to Brooks Lee.

Versalles had 371 to 501 assists from 1961-1968 (8 seasons) compared to Correa's 169 to 307 assists (4 seasons). Roy Smalley Jr. had four spectacular seasons playing shortstop among his decade as a Twin. Greg Gagne had a strong 8 year run as the Twins shortstop that included 2 World Series titles. 

A shortstop makes or doesn't make more plays than anyone fielding ground balls in the infield. A good shortstop is almost always an important part of a winning team. I would argue that Mookie Betts holding down the position is what elevates the Dodgers since he stepped in there in 2024.

My order is Versalles, Gagne, Smalley Jr., Correa, and Polanco with a clear separation from the first three to the latter two players.

 

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Love Carlos, and while he might be the best PLAYER who played shortstop for the Twins, the short tenure and the amount of time he missed keeps him off the top of the list. Stats per game played are fine for the individual, but the team struggled with replacements whenever Correa was off the field; his injuries were negative for the team though just null for Carlos. Gagne for example played 137+ games in 8 straight seasons for the Twins; Correa has done that only 3 times in his career; only part of one of those for the Twins. (Though he did come very close a couple other times.) Gagne also helped the team to TWO championships including a few heroics himself. Versailles flashed, but essentially so did Correa, and Zoilo's flash was brighter (MVP and the Series when only two teams made the playoffs). I don't really have a problem with your top 5, but looking at it from what each gave to this specific team, I'd go more toward Smalley, Gagne, Zoilo, Correa, Polanco, with Zoilo on top if you want the best season ever by a Twins shortstop.

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Correa is somewhat polarizing, so it will be interesting to see the tenor of comments. Though he clearly is stronger on a per game basis, I don’t think you can ignore Smalley having twice the bWAR. And if Correa gets credit for postseason heroics, Gagne needs a boost for being the shortstop on two World Series champs. 
 

I think if Correa plays out his contract in Minnesota, he likely reaches that status. At one point, I even thought that if he stayed at his top level, it wouldn’t have been a given that a HOF plaque would have had an Astros hat. He hasn’t, so a HOF plaque seems doubtful, period, without a late-career renaissance. 
 

At any rate, it seems like SS is the biggest need for an upgrade on the all-time Twins team. The second-teamer at many positions is stronger than the top candidates at SS. 

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19 minutes ago, mikelink45 said:

The ranking is close - I think Guzman and his six year 7.6 WAR needs to be on the list.  I would take him and his speed and range over Polanco as a SS (I am not thinking about other positions for Polanco.   I would put Cardenas 3 years and 11.1 WAR above all of them.  

Correa was good, but not what was advertised.   I think Cardenas is number 1, Smalley 2, Gagne 3 Correa 4 (although on the short span Vesalles was better than him) and Guzman above Polanco.  

Meares and Barlett are honorable mentions.  

I overlooked Guzman. He might belong ahead of Correa. Leo Cardenas was a fabulous shortstop for his 3 year run as a Twin. I guess I went with guys who played more years and also were glove shortstops.

On a slightly different note, it is not easy to compare players from different eras. Part of it is the playing surfaces, conditions, and even the balls. The fields today are as near perfect as possible. Every time I go to watch a high school or college game I'm reminded that we started practice by picking rocks for 15 minutes. The baseballs are all in perfect shape too.

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I think it is Gagne. I don’t believe his defensive contribution is measured well in rWAR and the measures of his time. If I understand oWAR and dWAR correctly his offense contributed more than to his rWAR than his defense while with Minnesota. That can’t be true. 

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Correa's Postseason Heroics: 0.2 WPA and a loss in the Division Series

It was really, really nice to see the Twins beat the Blue Jays in a 3 game series at home, but let's stop making it something that it wasn't. It was quickly extinguished and the franchise is no better now for it. 

Zoilo had more post season HR than Correa did as a Twin. And matched his WPA. 

Zoilo is CLEARLY ahead of Correa. 

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In my life, the best single-season shortstop is Zoilo Versailles. He was dynamic and energized a WS team. I thought Christian Guzman would be his successor, but it was not to be. However, his 2001 season is not to be sneezed at. The smartest shortstop is no doubt Carlos Correa. Some of the smart, jaw-dropping plays he made were something to behold. Then again, there was his failure to deliver in the clutch and his ability to ground out into double plays. That said, give me the players who were consistent at the position. Danny Thompson was good for one season (1972). I loved watching him play. Greg Gagne was a joy to watch. Often, we are too hung up on metrics and miss the ability to play the game. What the Giants just did in hiring a college coach as manager should drive the league back to developing players who can play the game and screw the stats. Since I am on a roll, bring in Buck Showalter as the next manager. He knows what he is doing and can tell management to take a hike.

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26 minutes ago, IndianaTwin said:

And if Correa gets credit for postseason heroics, Gagne needs a boost for being the shortstop on two World Series champs. 

But it wasn't while the author was watching so it doesn't count. 

Correa was the LEADER the Twins needed, which is why in his 4 seasons in the organization they had 2 hilarious late season collapses and 1 more full blown disaster of a season. 

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2 minutes ago, Dakota Native said:

Since I am on a roll, bring in Buck Showalter as the next manager.

Buck is a fun manager. He's a bit too much of an old head, but I actually really enjoyed him as the Mets manager. But he hated playing the Mets young players that he felt hadn't earned it, ie Vientos and Baty.

If that held true, he would be DESPISED by this website. And rightfully so. 

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What this really highlights is how pathetic the Twins have been at SS, especially compared to other franchises. Does any other franchise have a "best SS" as bad as Roy Smalley? Smalley couldn't make the top 5 for some franchises. If you include the Senators for this franchise, you can add Joe Cronin and Cecil Travis. That makes it less embarrassing.

Pittsburgh - Honus Wagner, Arky Vaughan, Jay Bell

Seattle - Alex Rodriguez

Baltimore - Cal Ripken Jr

White Sox - Luke Appling

Cubs - Ernie Banks, Bill Dahlen, Joe Tinker

Cardinals - Ozzie Smith

Reds - Barry Larkin, Dave Concepcion

Giants - George Davis, Dave Bancroft, Art Fletcher

Tigers - Alan Trammell

Brewers - Robin Yount

Guardians - Lou Boudreau, Joe Sewell, Omar Vizquel

Yankees - Derek Jeter, Phil Rizzuto

Athletics - Bert Campaneris, Miguel Tejada

Red Sox - Johnny Pesky, Nomar Garciaparra, Vern Stephens

Angels - Jim Fregosi

Braves - Rabbit Maranville

Rockies - Troy Tulowitzki

Phillies - Dick Bartell, Jimmy Rollins

Blue Jays - Tony Fernandez

 

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Probably too soon to make this determination.  His rate stats and defense were largely very good, but his short time span and leaving the team as something of a scapegoat bring that down.  Unlike some other positions like centerfield or catcher, we really haven’t had a long-term star at shortstop, so the field is pretty crowded without a clear run away winner.  

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Best is awfully subjective here. Correa has no more post-season heroics than Gagne so I'm not sure why Correa gets extra credit here. Gagne OPS'd 1.187 vs. Detroit in 1987. He's a big reason the Twins advanced to the World Series.

Zoilo Versalles had the best single season with Smalley's 1978 after that.

I guess "best" to me is the shortstop the Twins could count on year in and year out to be a solid every day player or better. 2.0+ WAR. Using fWAR.

Tiebreaker = consecutive seasons 2.0+ fWAR, then best single season, I'm not counting trade seasons.
Gagne 4x (50%, excluding the 30 PA total in '83-'84)
Smalley 3x (38%)
Cardenas 3x (100%)
Versalles 3x (43%)
Bartlett 2x (67%)
Correa 2x (67%)
Polanco 2x (29%, excludes 20 PA total in '14-'15, and '23 where he was 2B)

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Clarification needed - Is it one season, three seasons, or a minimum of some sort?

Leo Cardenas played for some of the best teams in club history and was really good, for 3 years. Several were good for 4-5 years. A few people have stated that Zoilo Versalles had one good year. He was a top 3 shortstop for 7 years and averaged playing 154 games per season in an era where shortstops were counted on to field the ball and get outs more than provide offense. Additionally, the era was largely depressed in offense. 

We can only hope the Twins get 7 years of steady play from a starting shortstop like Gagne and Versalles. It is key for pitchers to have a guy behind them at shortstop who is in the lineup and makes the plays. I'll add kudos to Polanco for playing hurt in too many games when the team didn't have a guy to replace him.

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I always appreciated Correa from the outside looking in while with Houston. I became an actual fan once he became a Twin. I couldn't believe some of the plays he made in the field. When he was healthy...all too brief...he actually had some of the best production in his career. And he seemed like a good leader who loved being a Twin so much, he followed the MILB system almost as much as bloggers, writers, and fans do.

But alas, as excited as he made me on his signing, and his contributions when healthy, his tenure was just too short, and too injury interrupted for me to place him #1. 

And it's really hard to rank players from very different eras. The game changes over the years.

But I have to give Smalley the nod at #1. He was solid and productive for multiple years. I've often wondered about the numbers he might have produced on better teams in the 70's.

SIDE NOTE: After a great Twins career, then coming back late to win a WS, to being a long standing broadcaster, it's RIDICULOUS he isn't in the Twins HOF yet!

#2 is Versalles. He was before my time. But I have tremendous respect for him from his numbers, to his MVP season, to everything I've ever heard or read about him. But he's slightly behind Smalley IMO.

#3 is Gagne, IMO. He was helpful with the bat, but never much of a hitter. But IMO he might be the best, most dependable SS I've ever seen that never won an award.

#4 is where I place Polanco, even though I'm a huge fan and believe he remains one of the most under appreciated Twins players over the past 10 years. Never a great SS, he was solid. He played hurt. He had a great and productive bat when healthy. If he didn't have so many ankle injuries that slowed his career, I wonder about how great might his Twins career have been? There's a really good chance he's #1 above Smalley without his injuries. But I have to take that in to account in this ranking.

Despite all the tremendous defense and production I saw from Correa, and the little things I've previously mentioned, I have no choice but to put him at #5. His time frame and injury impacted seasons just didn't allow him to shine ENOUGH to be ranked any higher. Take away the injuries, he just might rank #1. Ironic that it wasn't his operated on ankle as a young kid that proved his undoing with his Twins career. 

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I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think team accomplishments oftentimes get weighted too heavily when putting together individual lists (don't get me started about Eli Manning - that's a rant for another day).

Was Gagne really better than Smalley just because his prime years coincided with perhaps the best stretch of time to be a Twin while Smalley's prime happened to coincide with general mediocrity?  Or put another way, if their Twin primes are swapped - 1976-80 Smalley (18.1 bWAR and an all-star game) and 1987-91 Gagne (15.6 bWAR) swap places - do the Twins fail to win those World Series?  I don't think so.  Are the late 70's Twins all of a sudden better?  Probably not.

I'm not saying the WAR totals are some sort of definitive mic drop in the discussion or anything like that.  For me, WAR is a starting point for lists like this, not an ending point.  I just think team successes should only provide weight for a player to the extent of his own actual performance in those seasons, especially those postseasons.  Gagne in the postseason for the Twins, for what it's worth, posted a .675 OPS (or a .213 BA with 10 RBI in 96 PA, if that's more your flavor), had a 22:5 SO:BB ratio, and had a negative WPA in all four playoff series, though he did have a few key home runs.

Ultimately it's pretty close to me.  I would go with Smalley over Gagne, but it's close enough that reasonable minds can certainly differ.  But if Gagne is your choice, "2 rings" isn't any sort of definitive mic drop either.

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8 minutes ago, The Great Hambino said:

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think team accomplishments oftentimes get weighted too heavily when putting together individual lists (don't get me started about Eli Manning - that's a rant for another day).

Was Gagne really better than Smalley just because his prime years coincided with perhaps the best stretch of time to be a Twin while Smalley's prime happened to coincide with general mediocrity?  Or put another way, if their Twin primes are swapped - 1976-80 Smalley (18.1 bWAR and an all-star game) and 1987-91 Gagne (15.6 bWAR) swap places - do the Twins fail to win those World Series?  I don't think so.  Are the late 70's Twins all of a sudden better?  Probably not.

I'm not saying the WAR totals are some sort of definitive mic drop in the discussion or anything like that.  For me, WAR is a starting point for lists like this, not an ending point.  I just think team successes should only provide weight for a player to the extent of his own actual performance in those seasons, especially those postseasons.  Gagne in the postseason for the Twins, for what it's worth, posted a .675 OPS (or a .213 BA with 10 RBI in 96 PA, if that's more your flavor), had a 22:5 SO:BB ratio, and had a negative WPA in all four playoff series, though he did have a few key home runs.

Ultimately it's pretty close to me.  I would go with Smalley over Gagne, but it's close enough that reasonable minds can certainly differ.  But if Gagne is your choice, "2 rings" isn't any sort of definitive mic drop either.

For me, it was watching Gagne play defense, game after game, month after month, season after season.

Very, very good, and very, very dependable. 

Ground balls to SS were outs.

 

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3 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

For me, it was watching Gagne play defense, game after game, month after month, season after season.

Very, very good, and very, very dependable. 

Ground balls to SS were outs.

 

I do think that's the best case for Gagne.  I was too young to really watch Gagne and not yet alive to watch Smalley.  But in terms of defensive runs saved over the stretches I mentioned above, Smalley was pretty good on D (14 defensive runs saved), but Gagne was truly excellent (58! DRS).  That's a bigger gap than I was expecting

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11 minutes ago, The Great Hambino said:

I do think that's the best case for Gagne.  I was too young to really watch Gagne and not yet alive to watch Smalley.  But in terms of defensive runs saved over the stretches I mentioned above, Smalley was pretty good on D (14 defensive runs saved), but Gagne was truly excellent (58! DRS).  That's a bigger gap than I was expecting

Well lah-de-fricken-dah...

 

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3 hours ago, bean5302 said:

Best is awfully subjective here. Correa has no more post-season heroics than Gagne so I'm not sure why Correa gets extra credit here. Gagne OPS'd 1.187 vs. Detroit in 1987. He's a big reason the Twins advanced to the World Series.

Zoilo Versalles had the best single season with Smalley's 1978 after that.

I guess "best" to me is the shortstop the Twins could count on year in and year out to be a solid every day player or better. 2.0+ WAR. Using fWAR.

Tiebreaker = consecutive seasons 2.0+ fWAR, then best single season, I'm not counting trade seasons.
Gagne 4x (50%, excluding the 30 PA total in '83-'84)
Smalley 3x (38%)
Cardenas 3x (100%)
Versalles 3x (43%)
Bartlett 2x (67%)
Correa 2x (67%)
Polanco 2x (29%, excludes 20 PA total in '14-'15, and '23 where he was 2B)

Gagne has 2 WS Titles so yes I agree he is better than Correa.   C4 had 0 post season heroics.  Pedro Florimon > Correa

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Zoilo will always be my favorite SS.  He was an integral part of the Twins team in their first World Series against the vaunted Koufax/Drysdale juggernaut in 1965 when I was 10 years old.  And I remember the teacher who confiscated my transistor radio that I snuck into class to listen to the World Series.  Cruel.

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SS is one of the most important positions defensively. I'd rank them by their intangibles & where they brought us. #1 Gagne brought us 2 World Series Championships #2 Versalles took us to the dance 1st. The rest is up for grabs. To compete, you have to have a very good SS, Correa did that for us. Trading away Correa is saying; "We can't put together a competitive team even with Correa, so we need to dump his salary & use him as a scapegoat. It's the player's fault."

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