USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 That would definitely help. Let's hope Heyman is correct.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2022 Author Posted August 2, 2022 Cade Povich being traded to the Orioles in return.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Can't ask for a bigger bullpen upgrade than that. And Cade Povich in return? ****, I do that all day.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 I like Cade Povich, but if that's all, the Twins did well here.
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Can't say I have too much faith in a guy who last had an ERA under 6 on 2018 until this year but go team!
Musk21 Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Twins also sending Yennier Cano and Juan Nunez to BAL.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, Brock Beauchamp said: Can't ask for a bigger bullpen upgrade than that. And Cade Povich in return? ****, I do that all day. Yeah, I mean the Twins don't have many healthy trade chips, but they could redo the entire pen if they find other deals like this. Hajjar, Headrick, Festa. Give me something good.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, notoriousgod71 said: Can't say I have too much faith in a guy who last had an ERA under 6 on 2018 until this year but go team! Most of it was as a starter, though, so the uptick in performance could easily be sustainable.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, notoriousgod71 said: Can't say I have too much faith in a guy who last had an ERA under 6 on 2018 until this year but go team! He's never been a full time reliever until this year. I really like the converted starters about 1 year after they've made the transition.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 MLBT makes it sound like we sent 4 prospects, so far we know 3 of them. I have no problems parting with any of the 3 named so far, so on paper I love this trade. More please!
Hrbowski Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Decent pickup, with two more years of control and not a hefty price to pay.
Hrbowski Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Danchat said: MLBT makes it sound like we sent 4 prospects, so far we know 3 of them. I have no problems parting with any of the 3 named so far, so on paper I love this trade. More please! Juan Rojas is the fourth piece.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2022 Author Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Danchat said: MLBT makes it sound like we sent 4 prospects, so far we know 3 of them. I have no problems parting with any of the 3 named so far, so on paper I love this trade. More please! I’m seeing on Reddit it’s the 3 that @Musk21mentioned plus LHP Juan Rojas
CRF Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Lopez career numbers are pretty abysmal, but all of a sudden he's having a great season. What happened? We also lit him up a couple times back in early July. Anyway, it seems like a good move. I hope he can really help us. I also hope we're not done with trades. Still some time left to make a couple deals.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 I didn't realize the Twins had four healthy pitchers to trade.
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 It is a good and necessary move. We might look back in hindsight a few years down the road and have “lost” this deal. It will still have been a good and necessary move.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Lopez (and Glen Perkins, Brad Hand, Liam Hendricks, Wade Davis, Andrew Miller, Zack Britton) is why you should try these guys as a full time reliever for ONE full season before giving up on them. That transition from starter to swingman usually doesn't work out well.
twinfan Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 It's a good upgrade to our bullpen but I hope Lopez is under control for at least another season. He is having a fantastic year and hopefully can continue. Is Cano the one currently on our roster? He seems decent if he is.
Musk21 Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, twinfan said: It's a good upgrade to our bullpen but I hope Lopez is under control for at least another season. He is having a fantastic year and hopefully can continue. Is Cano the one currently on our roster? He seems decent if he is. Lopez is under team control for 2 more years.
Puckett34 Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Nice add. Do it like 2-3 more times now. Figure Lopez slots in with Jax and Duran? I especially like that he is under team control for 2.5 seasons, right? Baseball reference has him not being a free agent until 2025. Arb eligible until then.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, twinfan said: It's a good upgrade to our bullpen but I hope Lopez is under control for at least another season. He is having a fantastic year and hopefully can continue. Is Cano the one currently on our roster? He seems decent if he is. Lopez is under control for two more seasons after this one. Cano is the guy who's given up 17 hits, 11 walks and 3 HR in 13 2/3 innings for the Twins this year.
CRF Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Here's an article about Lopez from the Orioles SB Nation / Camden Chat site. The story is from the end of June, but it's got some good info: https://www.camdenchat.com/2022/6/23/23179718/orioles-bullpen-jorge-lopez-improvement-2022
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, nicksaviking said: Cano is the guy who's given up 17 hits, 11 walks and 3 HR in 13 2/3 innings for the Twins this year. So a little better than Duffey.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Normally you don't give up 4 prospects for a relief pitcher, but I'm definitely on board with the quantity over quality approach. Hopefully teams other than the Orioles are willing to do this too. Also, what the heck are the Orioles doing? They're above .500, possibly seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and trade a guy who would still be around for 2.5 years for Cano and three guys who are many years away from making the majors.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 Looks like Baltimore is playing in Arlington right now. Should be a quick trip to Minneapolis for game time tonight.
bunsen82 Verified Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, nicksaviking said: Normally you don't give up 4 prospects for a relief pitcher, but I'm definitely on board with the quantity over quality approach. Hopefully teams other than the Orioles are willing to do this too. Also, what the heck are the Orioles doing? They're above .500, possibly seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and trade a guy who would still be around for 2.5 years for Cano and three guys who are many years away from making the majors. They may think they are selling high. It is also a situation, where they may think they still need to boost their minors. They will be competing in 2-3 years. Even still if I was a Baltimore fan, this trade seems rather light.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: Normally you don't give up 4 prospects for a relief pitcher, but I'm definitely on board with the quantity over quality approach. Hopefully teams other than the Orioles are willing to do this too. Also, what the heck are the Orioles doing? They're above .500, possibly seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and trade a guy who would still be around for 2.5 years for Cano and three guys who are many years away from making the majors. Agreed. More quantity for quality trades would be great. If only Miami would do this....
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