Rangers 16, Twins 3: Twins Blasted by Rangers Again, Drop Fourth Series in Five

[MMMordabito]

2 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Just an L in the right hand column, no worries. 

With our G. attempting a copy/paste of 1930s Germany, baseball is a pleasant diversion no matter what the score.

Oh Christ.

[Aggies7]

51 minutes ago, D.C Twins said:

If Tonkin is an answer... I don't even want to know what the question is!

Probably something about the start of the Vietnam war 

[Patzky]

1 hour ago, h2oface said:

Is that Peter guy a suspect? 😇

Stop it stop it.. do ya think... Stop it.

 

[Patzky]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Probably something about the start of the Vietnam war 

Not the best night to bring up war..

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, Patzky said:

Not the best night to bring up war..

Or is it in fact the best night ?

[Patzky]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Or is it in fact the best night ?

We will find out shortly. Julio Tehran is also off limits.

[Aggies7]

51 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

I think it's pretty clear the Twins are not in contention for the division. Outside shot at stealing a wild card.

 

 

Can you imagine if this season ends like last? Huge winning streak sandwiched between mediocre to below 500 baseball. What was last year, a 12 gamer? I would be absolutely blown away if there has ever, in the long history of baseball, been another club to have 12+ game winning streaks in consecutive seasons and miss the playoffs both times. I’d be stunned if that’s ever happened.

[Danchat]

Sometimes good pitchers like Ober and Sands get shelled, it happens... though I do wonder if Ober needs a stint on the IL if it's true the velocity dip is from knee/hip problems. I know we can't afford to lose another starter... guess we'll just have to rely on the pitching pipeline we supposedly have. 

[Blyleven2011]

3 hours ago, S Bart said:

I am curious if the Twins set a record in permitting over ten runs scored in a 7-game period. They lost 14-3 on June 5, 16-4 on June 10 and 16-3 today.  That is 46 total runs....WOW! 

If you can remember pitchers dick Woodson and Mike Smithson from the eighties  , they gave up double digit wins in consecutive games and I believe I was against the Texas Rangers too ..

[DJL44]

1 hour ago, Dave Borton said:

And fortunately I haven't found that element or incivility on TwinsDaily.

Thank you.

Thank the moderators

[DJL44]

8 minutes ago, Patzky said:

Not the best night to bring up war..

[knothole61]

17 minutes ago, MMMordabito said:

Oh Christ.

MMM, I forgive them because they are taught this, but I can't abide by the trivialization of the absolute horror that was Nazi Germany. Hate our "G." all you want, but the millions of victims of Hitler and his henchmen deserve that the record remain crystal clear--it's the least that we can do. 

[Aggies7]

3 minutes ago, Blyleven2011 said:

If you can remember pitchers dick Woodson and Mike Smithson from the eighties  , they gave up double digit wins in consecutive games and I believe I was against the Texas Rangers too ..

I don’t want to look it up to confirm but that would be an excellent memory you have if accurate 

[David HK]

Holy crap!  I'm glad that for me those day games start at 2 AM, so I'm absolved from the bleeding.  But what a sorry sunrise it was today!  The inexorable march to .500 baseball continues.

Bailey steps back when he needs to step up, against practically the worst-hitting team this side of the White Sox.  The hitters shrink back to Lewis-line levels.  And our new acquisition, Joey "The Pennant" Wentz manages to channel Alcala numbers.  Welp, at least I don't have to hate-watch the replay, and just  keep marking exams... 😝

[Blyleven2011]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

I don’t want to look it up to confirm but that would be an excellent memory you have if accurate 

Oh I remember almost every game except 81 through 83 when I was out west working in Utah and Wyoming on gas pipe lines ...

My favorite memories may of 1969  are tovar and carew stealing 5 bases in one inning and both stole home that same inning too ...

A more recent memories is Benny revere rounding second and summersaulted over the base and still made a triple in July of 2011  ...

Best game in ever saw was a doubleheader at the old met stadium  , we win the first Gane 9-8 against Oakland A's  , second game  was the best game I ever saw except for game 7 of 1991 world series , 

Oakland was leading 8-7 bottom of the ninth,  2 outs and rod carew on second and Harmon killebrew at the plate  , he is who we want up in that situation , on the second pitch Harmon swings and it's hit to left center and it appears to be a homerun  and we were going crazy but Joe rudi climb the wall and took the homerun away , a great catch ....

Why was the loss the best game I saw , Harmon gave it all but his all just wasn't quite good enough that game  , Joe rudi was a very good left fielder ...

Another memory was Tony Olivia's last hit and game , he hit a ball to right field that again we all thought it was out , it was a soaring shot that hit high on the wall and Oliva with his bad knees only got a single  and that was Tony's last game , it's a sad memory but when I see Tony I always bring it up , I named a dog Oliva and Tony when I told him that couldn't believe  , the twins pkayees of sixties and seventies , I had alot of heros ...

[David HK]

33 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Probably something about the start of the Vietnam war 

Hey, don't knock "Gulfa." ⚾💥

[LastOnePicked]

5 hours ago, Ricky Vaughn said:

The win streak was a mirage. This is our 2025 Minnesota Twins. No hitting and when a couple pitchers go down the pressure crushes the rest of them.

I mean, the win streak was real. Each win is as real as each loss. There are some plusses on this team, but they collapses are just confusing. Either they're pretty easily scouted and their weaknesses can be exploited, or they just can't sustain any real momentum. When the pressure's off, they seem to be fine. When the spotlight gets put back on them, they fold.

[David HK]

Yikes!  Just look at that BP pitch chart!  We're gonna burn out Jonah Bride at this rate!  No Jax lately, and Columbe's line is remarkably efficient;  1 pitch one outing, 2 pitches the other.  Why he can't go an inning or even an inning plus with the soft-serve he deals, I cannot fathom.  

I'm kind of surprised we didn't run out "Tora Tora Topa" today.

[S Bart]

Declan Goff from the Minnesota Twins Score North podcast reported today that Ober received a death threat. Baseball is a sport, and this type of behavior is utterly deplorable.

[jorgenswest]

1 hour ago, Blyleven2011 said:

If you can remember pitchers dick Woodson and Mike Smithson from the eighties  , they gave up double digit wins in consecutive games and I believe I was against the Texas Rangers too ..

I can remember them as Twins but Woodson pitched in the early 70s a decade before Smithson joined the team. Woodson had a really good season in 1972 but he was blown out by the Rangers 16-2 in his worst start that year. A serious arm injury cut short his promising career.

in 1985 Mike Smithson was part of back to back games where they gave up double digit runs to the Royals. Frank Viola was the starter in the other game.

[tony&rodney]

1 hour ago, Blyleven2011 said:

Another memory was Tony Olivia's last hit and game , he hit a ball to right field that again we all thought it was out , it was a soaring shot that hit high on the wall and Oliva with his bad knees only got a single  and that was Tony's last game , it's a sad memory but when I see Tony I always bring it up , I named a dog Oliva and Tony when I told him that couldn't believe  , the twins pkayees of sixties and seventies , I had alot of heros ...

Tony O was my favorite player ever in baseball. An incredible ambassador for the game and as fine a human being that I have ever met and visited,

I was at that game. Tony stomped on first base and came out of the game for a pinch runner I believe. memory is funny though and I did not look it up. The best hitter ever for my money.

 

[David HK]

3 hours ago, S Bart said:

Declan Goff from the Minnesota Twins Score North podcast reported today that Ober received a death threat. Baseball is a sport, and this type of behavior is utterly deplorable.

I saw the posts from Audra elsewhere.  Just despicable.  Gotta be from some online gambling pinhead.   If only there were a way to track them down, take 'em out back, and bring some wrath of God stuff upon them.,

[Mark G]

4 hours ago, David HK said:

Yikes!  Just look at that BP pitch chart!  We're gonna burn out Jonah Bride at this rate!  No Jax lately, and Columbe's line is remarkably efficient;  1 pitch one outing, 2 pitches the other.  Why he can't go an inning or even an inning plus with the soft-serve he deals, I cannot fathom.  

I'm kind of surprised we didn't run out "Tora Tora Topa" today.

I concur.  We should have learned our lesson by now; you just can't use Bride for more than one inning at a time.  🤭

[Fezig]

It wouldn't surprised me to see Ober hit the injured list. When a pitcher struggles like Ober has been it's because he's tipping pitches or fighting through something.

[jmlease1]

11 hours ago, h2oface said:

Sonny Gray was the guy to re-sign. If it was to be Lopez or Sonny Gray, I always wanted Gray. Good baseball to be seen with Gray against debut of Misiorowski (78 pitches). Too bad Baldelli pissed him off so much. As I post, Misiorowski with a no-hitter through 5.

Edit: Well, that didn't age well. Gray, after only giving up 3 earned in his last 3 starts, just got tagged for 5 runs in the 5th. 6-0. Ha. A Bailey day.

Edit: .... and Misiorowski throws 3 pitches in the 6th and steps backward up the mound after the third, and drastically twists his right ankle! Leaves game. Always something.......

Weird take considering Pablo wasn't pitching. But Pablo is younger and has been at least as good as Gray over the past season and a half, while costing less, and letting Gray go also got us a prospect. Next season Gray is going to cost StL $35M while Pablo will cost $21M. Baldelli supposedly "pissing him off" is nonsense for why Gray went elsewhere: he signed with StL because they offered him a boatload of money, 3+ years on the contract, and it's close to where he's from. Not because Baldelli offended him and somehow drove him away. (btw, I guarantee you that Gray has been mad about getting pulled from a start in StL this season. He's ALWAYS mad when he has to come out of a game. But apparently, it's only in MN that it's so offensive that it drove him away...) 

BTW, Bailey Ober was at least as good as Sonny Gray last season.

[Patzky]

15 hours ago, thelanges5 said:

Twins starters since Pablo went on the IL-7.07 era

He packed up his outs and he took them home. 😟

[TwinsDr2021]

16 hours ago, purplesoldier4u said:

People on this site have always been bigger Ober fans than I, and I'm not sure why that is the case. He is consistently inconsistent and in today's game, he was brutal.

I mean he has made 102 starts with a 3.85, 541 K;s in 545 innings, and has more than 4 times the K's than walks. Sure he isn't Skubal or Skenes but really who is. He has been a pretty sold pitcher when given a chance to start for over 4 years. (He career started out better than Festa and Matthews) 

[CoachDW]

14 hours ago, Blyleven2011 said:

If you can remember pitchers dick Woodson and Mike Smithson from the eighties  , they gave up double digit wins in consecutive games and I believe I was against the Texas Rangers too ..

Your memory is a bit off... Dick Woodson's last year in pro ball was 1975, and Mike Smithson's first year was 1982, so they never pitched together. But I do remember a series back then against the Rangers where they were shellacked very convincingly, so you got that part right.

[LambchoP]

Sure looks like Ober isn't right and there will probably be an IL trip soon. Our rotation, which was a supposed strength with plenty of depth, has very quickly fallen apart. With no solid AAA options, and dumpster diving the waiver wire for bullpen innings, I think we may need to kiss the playoffs goodbye.

[Blyleven2011]

12 hours ago, jorgenswest said:

I can remember them as Twins but Woodson pitched in the early 70s a decade before Smithson joined the team. Woodson had a really good season in 1972 but he was blown out by the Rangers 16-2 in his worst start that year. A serious arm injury cut short his promising career.

in 1985 Mike Smithson was part of back to back games where they gave up double digit runs to the Royals. Frank Viola was the starter in the other game.

I stand corrected  , I remember the blowout with Woodson against Texas  but I thought Texas blew us out 2 in a row , but I'll take your word  on the back to back double digit losses with Smithson and viola , I knew Smithson was involved somewhere in a double digit loss  ....

Remember when twins were ahead 10-0 over Cleveland and viola pitching , I believe it was 1984 , Cleveland came back and won that game 11-10 , any chance of catching Royals late in the season finished with that loss ...