Canterino out

[tony&rodney]

Per mlbtraderumors, Matt Canterino has a bum shoulder. Tough deal for him.

[thelanges5]

Was hoping to see him pitch this year. Still may but this guy cannot stay healthy.  He’s got to be a resilient fella. 

[Squirrel]

I wonder if this might just be the end for him

[Vanimal46]

12 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

I wonder if this might just be the end for him

Almost certainly. At least his time with the Twins. We can’t keep him on the 40 beyond this year without any production. 

[tony&rodney]

Athletes work incredible hours to reach their dream and often injuries interfere. Really tough. He was 92mph in his only outing according to the MLB.com indicators. Shoulders injuries are crazy difficult to come all the way back from. I guess we shall see what happens next .... wish him well.

[TheLeviathan]

Welp...that didn't take long.  Feel bad for the kid, sometimes your genetics are a really sad tease.  Hope he finds a path to pursue his passions!

[Mike Sixel]

Too bad for him. Good luck!

[Richie the Rally Goat]

What a shame! I feel bad for the guy

[Blyleven2011]

It's really a shame the kid can't stay healthy  , he should have ate more vegetables while growing up  , can anyone really explain why a player is so fragile ???

[LambchoP]

Too bad, he had loads of potential. I'm guessing an IL placement is coming. If he can't come back and throw some minor league innings this year, there's no way he keeps his roster spot. Maybe they pass him through waivers and sign him to a minors deal, but it sure looks like he'll never be able to pitch :(

[Russ]

Josh Winder, another tender arm pitcher and more recently a  former Twin signed the off season with Arizona,  needs Tommy John surgery

[Parfigliano]

News would be Canterino healthy.

[bean5302]

14 hours ago, Blyleven2011 said:

It's really a shame the kid can't stay healthy  , he should have ate more vegetables while growing up  , can anyone really explain why a player is so fragile ???

Pretty violent delivery, though it's been modified somewhat.

[Parfigliano]

Hard truth.... he's 27YOA has not pitched 100 total  MiLB innings in his career.  Not 100 in a year.  100 total since drafted.

Move on.

[Mike Sixel]

On 3/6/2025 at 10:29 AM, Parfigliano said:

Hard truth.... he's 27YOA has not pitched 100 total  MiLB innings in his career.  Not 100 in a year.  100 total since drafted.

Move on.

This post is full of empathy for a hurt human.

[USAFChief]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

This post is full of empathy for a hurt human.

Empathy? He has shoulder issues that impact his ability to throw a baseball, not cancer. 

He's not entitled to a 40 man spot for life.

Move on. He'll get more chances anyway. If not with the Twins, somebody else. Provided he can throw a baseball. 

[Mike Sixel]

2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

Empathy? He has shoulder issues that impact his ability to throw a baseball, not cancer. 

He's not entitled to a 40 man spot for life.

Move on. He'll get more chances anyway. If not with the Twins, somebody else. Provided he can throw a baseball. 

I'm bummed anyone wouldn't have empathy for a hurt human. Sad, really. 

[Fatbat]

Sad deal!!! Maybe it’s a minor setback and he gets going later this season! 

[stringer bell]

Season-ending shoulder surgery. It seems there is now a >95% chance that he'll never throw an official major league pitch for the Twins. mlbtraderumors.com say the Twins have the option to place him on the major league 60-day IL or send him to the minor league IL. If placed on the major league IL, he would accrue service time, but be taken off the 40-man roster. 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/03/twins-prospect-matt-canterino-undergoes-season-ending-shoulder-surgery.html

[Danchat]

You would think they'd want him off the 40 man roster to open up spots for other players. Not that they'd need that right away, but come mid-season and you have guys on the 10 day IL, you will want that spot.

[Cory Engelhardt]

Wish him well. That has to be beyond frustrating. 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

5 hours ago, Danchat said:

You would think they'd want him off the 40 man roster to open up spots for other players. Not that they'd need that right away, but come mid-season and you have guys on the 10 day IL, you will want that spot.

He’s pitched 11 games in double A in ‘22, when he next pitches in 2026 he’ll be 28, he would then have a year of Ml service time, two years until arbitration. That’s a tough place to be…

[DJL44]

On 3/4/2025 at 8:15 PM, Vanimal46 said:

Almost certainly. At least his time with the Twins. We can’t keep him on the 40 beyond this year without any production. 

I would guess he passes through waivers pretty easily.

[stringer bell]

1 hour ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

He’s pitched 11 games in double A in ‘22, when he next pitches in 2026 he’ll be 28, he would then have a year of Ml service time, two years until arbitration. That’s a tough place to be…

Nitpick here. It doesn't look like the Twins will purchase the contract of any non-roster players for Opening Day, even with the loss of Lewis and Tonkin (so far) to injury. The Twins won't put Canterino on the Il until they need to find a 40-man spot, so he likely won't have a full year of service. Whenever he would be on the major league 60-day IL is when he would start accruing service time. 

I'm not sure about the process for DFAing injured players. At some point, it would figure that he could and should be put on the open market, but it is possible they will have to hang onto him until the end of the season. 

[ashbury]

24 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

Nitpick here. It doesn't look like the Twins will purchase the contract of any non-roster players for Opening Day, even with the loss of Lewis and Tonkin (so far) to injury. The Twins won't put Canterino on the Il until they need to find a 40-man spot, so he likely won't have a full year of service. Whenever he would be on the major league 60-day IL is when he would start accruing service time. 

I'm not sure about the process for DFAing injured players. At some point, it would figure that he could and should be put on the open market, but it is possible they will have to hang onto him until the end of the season. 

I was somehow thinking the FO could pick the best time to DFA Canterino (assuming, as you say, the process even allows it), for instance Opening Day when every team is trying to trim down and finalize their working set of players.  But then it dawned on me, some bottom-feeder team could just cut a low-talent player, add Canterino to the 40, and then immediately put him on the 60-day IL themselves.

No, I expect that as long as the Twins paid the "price" to carry him on the 40 all off-season, they will continue to carry him on the IL as needed, and then see what his post-surgery progress is and decide something about him after the World Series. 

Service time (accrued during IL-60) surely is not a driving issue for a pitcher of his age anyway - we should be so lucky, if 6 years down the line it's even a tiny issue.  I do not know if there is some minor financial aspect during 2025 for the team.

[Vanimal46]

2 hours ago, DJL44 said:

I would guess he passes through waivers pretty easily.

I guess but why keep him when it’s proven time and time again he can’t stay healthy?

[laloesch]

On 3/7/2025 at 7:03 PM, Mike Sixel said:

I'm bummed anyone wouldn't have empathy for a hurt human. Sad, really. 

True, but a bit overboard under the circumstances don't you think?  It's not like he's saying he doesn't care, he just realizes it's not a life or death catastrophic injury or something like that.  He'll do just fine, but maybe not as a MLB pitcher.  I think what USAFChief was alluding to is what Silvy Khoucasian described as "empathy without boundaries is self-destruction." 

[DJL44]

22 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

I guess but why keep him when it’s proven time and time again he can’t stay healthy?

Why keep Aaron Sabato around?

[tony&rodney]

Sure hope Matt Canterino has successful surgery and a full recovery. He receives a ton of love for a guy who has pitched so little and only at the lower levels. That is the deal with a dynamic arm though. I'm not sure his body likes throwing a baseball, although he clearly loves the game based on going through the lengthy rehabs. Good luck to the young man.