Ohtani to the Blue Jays? Nope, Dodgers

[Mike Sixel]

Much of it is deferred, at the player request supposedly, so the team can still be competitive.

I'm happy for the player! 

[Mike Sixel]

I mean, if it wasn't deferred, how many teams would have a lower payroll, or close?

[Scott51104]

Surprised the Twins didn't top that.

 

[Jocko87]

The best part of this is that we can stop listening to "insiders" for good now.  They have nothing they aren't fed.

[Squirrel]

[Dave Borton]

1 hour ago, CRF said:

Looks like he's going to the Dodgers for a reported $700 mil 10 year deal. 

I can get my head around $1M. But 700 of them? I would get headaches owning that much.

[Parfigliano]

56 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said:

The Dodgers have cleared a major threshhold that I thought never could be cleared. I now think less unfavorably about the Yankees than I do about the Dodgers. 

Not me.

[ChermesZ]

And baseball wonders why it is regional and not national.  It complained about ratings for the World Series with the 4th largest market in the U.S.

Meanwhile, regional networks pull money from other teams.  Manfred has a mess on his hands.  Not a national game anymore.

[DJL44]

That's $100M more than I thought he would get

[tony&rodney]

MLB doesn't have money? The Ohtani signing might disagree. No matter what, business makes money when it comes to big business.

[Dave Borton]

30 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

MLB doesn't have money? ... No matter what, business makes money when it comes to big business.

Owners cry poor but most are multi-billionaires. Without open books, there is no idea of margins, revenues beyond expenses so the FO can tell any folk tale of "poor us; we're broke." If it wasn't lucrative, owners would dump franchises left and right. That doesn't happen. Billionaires buy clubs for ego and appreciation, just like your home appreciates.

The Dodgers have just captured all of Asian ball attention. MLB will launch/expand its rights w/Nippon Broadcasting. 17 hrs time difference so there's a bit of challenge.

Merchandising. Stuff will fly off the shelves (to wit: Taylor Swift's boyfriend jerseys). Everyone in the SW wears Dodger stuff, particularly Latino population. More corporate sponsors, hike the cost of advertising any place in Dodger Stadium, concessions, TV and radio advertising rates will go up and, TV contract revenue, ballpark seats can be bumped in price.

Dodger Stadium already packs 'em in, leading MLB at 47,000 per game. While it will hold 9,000 more, those seats are bad but they will sell more. Couldn't get me there in a car. Horrible, horrible. Bus, yes, but the traffic/parking is maddening. Will be curious to follow avg attendance next year.

MLB ain't broke by any means. $700MM was a bargain and the Guggenheim Baseball Management Group knows it. So much for Dave Roberts derailing the train.

[DocBauer]

I never posted on this because:

A} It wasn't directly about the Twins

B} I never believed in the Jays. I was going to wait and see the ink on paper before I was going accept it as real.

Is anyone really baffled this happened???

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, DocBauer said:

I never posted on this because:

A} It wasn't directly about the Twins

B} I never believed in the Jays. I was going to wait and see the ink on paper before I was going accept it as real.

Is anyone really baffled this happened???

By the money, yes. I figured five hundred million....

[Doctor Gast]

3 hours ago, CRF said:

10 year $700 mil deal. WOW!

Ohtani, can bring in a lot of money, Marketing, tickets, TV rights along from Japan.

[Parfigliano]

21 minutes ago, DocBauer said:

I never posted on this because:

A} It wasn't directly about the Twins

B} I never believed in the Jays. I was going to wait and see the ink on paper before I was going accept it as real.

Is anyone really baffled this happened???

Buy the money.  No.  Buy the location.  No.

[weitz41]

I know I shouldn't be bothered by this contract... But it bothers me in a haves and have nots type of way...The distance between them grew substantially today. Listening to MLB network trying to justify the contract says a lot about the same point. More power to the players but man-o-man...

Here the Twins are cutting payroll because of the lost revenue of the TV contract that is worth far less than Ohtani's AAV for the next ten years.

I know, I know, it shouldn't bother me...but it does...

[Vanimal46]

16 hours ago, Scott51104 said:

Surprised the Twins didn't top that.

 

In the coming days, Dan Hayes will write the Twins offered 10 years $688 million, no doubt. 

[gil4]

23 hours ago, DJL44 said:

That's $100M more than I thought he would get

I was off by $200M+ 

[gil4]

On 12/9/2023 at 3:01 PM, Nine of twelve said:

The Dodgers have cleared a major threshhold that I thought never could be cleared. I now think less unfavorably about the Yankees than I do about the Dodgers. 

I can't get there

[gil4]

On 12/9/2023 at 2:59 PM, Rod Carews Birthday said:

What do you suppose the upper limit would be for payroll to start to really hinder teams like the Yankees and Dodgers?

 

I'm hoping they just passed it and Ohtani turns into Rick Ankiel.

[Mike Sixel]

3 hours ago, gil4 said:

I'm hoping they just passed it and Ohtani turns into Rick Ankiel.

What a terrible wish. 

[UK Twin]

As good as Ohtani is, that is a ludicrous amount of money to spend on one player, albeit a two way one. He's had major surgery on his pitching arm twice now. I find it very hard to believe he will be able to pitch to a high level for even half of the 10 years he signed for. So the Dodgers may end up paying the majority of his contract on simply an elite hitter. The Dodgers will probably get around this by spending another $300 million on Yamamoto to take it up to a round $1 billion. 

[gil4]

22 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

What a terrible wish. 

I don't want him to have a bad life. I just don't want him to play like a $700M player. 

He doesn't have to get the Ankiel yips - he was just the closest to a 2-way player I could think of, other than Babe Ruth, and I definitely don't want that.  Would 1B Joe Mauer be a better wish?   

I want most Yankees players to be bad, too.  And  I want the big contracts they throw at players to become albatrosses.  And  I want our big contract players to be great.  

[Vanimal46]

Baseball is entering a VERY slippery slope. I can’t believe it’s allowed but it is because the CBA has so many loopholes. 

[Mike Sixel]

13 minutes ago, gil4 said:

I don't want him to have a bad life. I just don't want him to play like a $700M player. 

He doesn't have to get the Ankiel yips - he was just the closest to a 2-way player I could think of, other than Babe Ruth, and I definitely don't want that.  Would 1B Joe Mauer be a better wish?   

I want most Yankees players to be bad, too.  And  I want the big contracts they throw at players to become albatrosses.  And  I want our big contract players to be great.  

you want all big contracts to turn out badly? Seems like that would discourage big contracts.

You wished for a guy to be bad and utterly fail at his job. that seems a bit harsh to me. 

[lecroy24fan]

I have no idea how this was calculated but somehow the luxury tax per season is $46M. No clue where that number comes from.

[Nine of twelve]

I don't wish anyone ill. But if the Dodgers lose 100 games I will not come close to shedding a tear, unless it's from laughing too hard.

[Vanimal46]

44 minutes ago, lecroy24fan said:

I have no idea how this was calculated but somehow the luxury tax per season is $46M. No clue where that number comes from.

Me either. Just some made up accounting practices thanks to a crap CBA. 

[Vanimal46]

Ohtani playing 4D chess while working in the US. 

[Mike Sixel]

3 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Ohtani playing 4D chess while working in the US. 

I don't know, he's still Japanese. Hell be living somewhere, most likely somewhere with taxes. I guess he could move to somewhere else. A government could argue he earned the money in their jurisdiction, just got paid later. I ran into that with Minnesota and deferred compensation....I doubt this works.