Game Thread Twins @ Yankees 3:05 ET 9/7/22

[CRF]

WTF was that? My God.

[kydoty]

What the **** was that!

[Aggies7]

Tommy Watkins cannot be the third base coach next year. In fact there had better be an entirely new coaching staff next year. Can’t take any more of this garbage 

[Cap'n Piranha]

1 hour ago, notoriousgod71 said:

Bonds' record is still more impressive to me than whatever judge does. Sure, he was juicing but he walked a **** ton of times. Nobody pitches around judge for some reason .

Aaron Judge has been walked 80 times this year in 577 PAs (13.9%).

Bonds was walked 177!!! times in 664 PAs (26.7%).

Say whatever you want about Bonds, but he was hardly the only player juicing at the time, and no one else even sniffed his numbers.  Barry Bonds is one of the 5 greatest hitters in MLB history.

[garn from vancouver]

they deserve to lose after running home on that hit.

[Azviking101]

Regardless of who the twins 3rd base coach is, they’ve always been a closet Yankees fan

[LVTwinsfan]

That was crazy stupid

[rwilfong86]

Tommy Watkins needs fired if he sent Celestino. He has to be the worst third base coach in the league. They need to clean house completely.

[RpR]

Didn't they bring Hamilton in for such situations?

[umterp23]

4 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Who should pitch in a close game they might win? Because I'm pretty sure the site would think it was stupid to bring in most anyone else in a close game. Who should have come in?

I agree that is the problem.  Can't really trust anyone besides Duran at the moment I guess

[rwilfong86]

Plays like that are the reason the Yankees own the Twins and they've lost 18 straight playoff games. Boneheaded plays when the game is on the line. Laughable.

[Beast]

1 minute ago, Cap'n Piranha said:

So in 2019 AND 2020, you think Eddie Rosario was a superior offensive player to Mike Trout, since Eddie had more RBI than Trout in both years, in fewer PAs.

So you think one anecdotal example using the best player ever is grounds to eliminate a run production statistic from every analysis ever done going forward?

I would guess a player with more RBIs is better than a very high percentage of players with less RBIs.  Like, well over 90%.

Cleary not perfect, but I’ve always though throwing that out the window as a stat was absurd.  At the end of the day, you still need to put the ball in play with authority with RISP to get the RBI.  Something nobody on this roster can do regularly.

[Aggies7]

Incomprehensible how that happened

[CRF]

Didn't matter that he slowed up rounding 3rd. He was out by a mile no matter what. Just a stupid move to send him by Watkins. 

[dex8425]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Rosario didn't have more RBI than Trout in either of those years.

Trout won the MVP in 2019 despite Eddie Rosario having more RBI, what a travesty!

[Azviking101]

That is 100% on Watkins. Celestino slowed up like he should. He’s not looking at the RF. Watkins should be fired immediately and should have already 

[h2oface]

7 minutes ago, Cap'n Piranha said:

So in 2019 AND 2020, you think Eddie Rosario was a superior offensive player to Mike Trout, since Eddie had more RBI than Trout in both years, in fewer PAs.

 

3 minutes ago, h2oface said:

I think that Rosario knocked in more runs. And that was in itself, very valuable. As for the strawman Trout in this question, who is superior? Some may be for a spell, but seriously....... that is a hell of a strawman. But you didn't ask me......

 

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Rosario didn't have more RBI than Trout in either of those years.

@Cap'n Piranha ... and I trusted your research!

[IndyTwinsFan]

Starting to appear that we're the poster boy for a worse case scenario just waiting to happen. 

Just why do we deserve this fate?

[Beast]

This team is so poorly managed/coached, I’m 100% confident they’d be better with no FO or management personnel like a town team.

[USAFChief]

Not everything that can be counted, counts. Not everything that counts, can be counted. How can a baserunning blunder that awful happen?

Things like that cost games, or win games.

I realize we need analytics. But we also need to find a way to play effing baseball.

[Cap'n Piranha]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Rosario didn't have more RBI than Trout in either of those years.

2019--Eddie Roasrio had 109 RBI in 590 PA, Trout had 104 in 600 (source is fangraphs)

2020--I will retract, Rosario had 42 in 231, Trout had 46 in 241.

The point remains--across those 2 seasons, Eddie had 151 RBI in 821 PAs, Trout had 150 RBI in 841 PAs.  Since you said you will take RBI over any other offensive stat, are you willing to admit that you think for the two year span of 2019 and 2020, Eddie Rosario was a better offensive player than Mike Trout?

[Mike Sixel]

Nine innings of three run ball for the Twins pitchers. This is on the "offense". Arraez and CC really need to hit, or this team is done.

[RpR]

Pressure is on Miranda.

[CRF]

We need to get a manager and coaches in here, that actually KNOW the game of baseball and how to teach and play it. This is getting absurd. 

[umterp23]

Hamilton in the game in the 6th inning vs what he is on the bench for and not available in the 10th is on Rocco

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, h2oface said:

 

 

@Cap'n Piranha ... and I trusted your research!

Alternative facts

[h2oface]

The sad thing is that Hamilton is on the team for one and only reason, and today it was to score in the 10th on a single to right.....

and he was not available when needed.

[Aggies7]

Utterly terrible. Please clean the house of this disaster 

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Not everything that can be counted, counts. Not everything that counts, can be counted. How can a baserunning blunder that awful happen?

Things like that cost games, or win games.

I realize we need analytics. But we also need to find a way to play effing baseball.

Pretty sure the analytics would say not to run on that hit.....maybe the coach just felt he'd make it. Went with his gut. We don't know.

[Unwinder]

Love to go into extras in the first game of a double-header.