Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 The Minnesota Twins announced the signing of infielder Ronald Torreyes to a Major League contract. Jon Heyman has reported that the deal is believed to be for about $800,000. The former Yankees and Dodgers utility man puts the Twins at 39 on their 40-man roster.Torreyes is a 26-year-old from Venezuela who spent most of the last three seasons with the New York Yankees. The utility infielder is diminutive in stature, but he has a good glove around the infield. Torreyes spent eight games with the Dodgers in 2015. In late November, the Yankees DFAd Ronald Torreyes, and two days later, they traded him to the Cubs for cash or a PTBNL. They DFAd him two days later. With Ken Rosenthal reporting that the Twins are working on a one-year $7 million deal with Jonathan Schoop, Torreyes will likely compete with Ehire Adrianza for utility infield time around the field. In 229 career games, Torreyes has hit .281 with 30 doubles, six triples and four home runs. Quick Update from Dan Hayes. The fact that it is a split-contract and he has a minor league option remaining makes it make a lot more sense. And here's a great nickname... Click here to view the article
SF Twins Fan Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 I don't understand signing Torres to a major league contract. d-mac, Twins33, Mike Sixel and 2 others 5
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 I had hoped to have some really meaty transactions to mull over for the Twins this year, but Cron, Schoop, and Torreyes have not moved the meter. I wish them all luck, but I wonder how much has Cron improved us over Austin? How much better is Torreyes than Adrianza? Is Schoop the player we need? Schoop's fielding is replacement level according to what I saw on Baseball Reference, his hitting is not. Now we will continue to have Polanco at SS which is certainly not the best fielding situation. How strong are we in the middle with these two playing there? So far we are filling the roster, but have we improved? How many wins will these player give us?
Post-Concussive Blues Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 Is this some kind of split contract? Or do we cut Adrianza if he doesn’t look great in the Spring?
Puckett34 Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 HOT STOVE! d-mac, Vanimal46, Danchat and 1 other 4
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 HOT STOVE!Still warm to the touch, but it's getting there! wabene, d-mac and Puckett34 3
operation mindcrime Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 This is dumpster diving at its finest! With that being said I have no issue with this move!
Rosterman Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 I have no issue with any of the moves. But it does show that the Twins aren't going after the big-big money players, and if I must say, still looking hard at what they do have. Be interesting to see the arbitration settlements with the likes of Sano and Buxton and if they do extend Berrios and Rosario. Yes, they can still add a bullpen arm. They might pull off a trade. I hate to see them just jettison players from the current 40-man with nothing received in return. But we will see. Hope they don't see the need for a Rule 5, especially a bullpen arm. Will the Twins break $90 million in salary? Will anyone go to TwinsFest? wabene 1
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 I will have to research him more before I can make a fair assessment. But he provides seeming depth and competition. That's a good thing. And we also need that depth at Rochester. On the surface, I'm OK with this signing. gagu 1
MABB1959 Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 Got excited to see the name Schoop! The other guy haven't heard of.
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 Dan Hayes reports the Torreyes contract in a split ML/MinL contract and he has one more option year. Danchat, DocBauer and gagu 3
ChrisKnutson Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 Even though I’m extremely underwhelmed/disappointed, at the very least, I’m happy that the Twins gained 2-3 possible trade candidates for next year’s deadline.
DrNeau Verified Member Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 1. C Garver2. DH Cron3. LF Rosario4. CF Buxton5. RF Cave 6. 3B Sano7. SS Polanco8. 2B Schoop9. 1B Austin-- Bench --10. OF Kepler11. C Castro12. IF Adrianza I understand he has an option remaining, but we signed Torreyes to an mlb contract despite not having a roster spot for him? Also, Castro is bad; need to trade him and let Astudillo have his spot. SF Twins Fan, Mike Sixel, Monkeypaws and 1 other 4
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Seems like a good deal to me. Last year we had zero depth at AAA when it came to infielders, now they have another body there who should hit better than Motter and Petit. He's got a high batting average but an awful OBP, this dude never walks. He ranked 32nd out of 82 guys who played at least 100 innings at 2B according to UZR. DRS has him 21st/82. So he's good defensively, mediocre bat, only 26 years old... I'd just rather keep him at AAA, but we'll probably need him at some point due to injuries. Edited December 7, 2018 by Danchat gagu, Ben Noble and DocBauer 3
Tom Froemming Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 This one doesn't make any sense to me. I'd waaaay rather just have a guy like Gregorio Petit on a minors deal and one more open spot on the 40-man roster. Twins33 and bird 2
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 I don't understand signing Torres to a major league contract. They didn't
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 This one doesn't make any sense to me. I'd waaaay rather just have a guy like Gregorio Petit on a minors deal and one more open spot on the 40-man roster. You do have an open spot on the 40-man roster. He is not on it. After he was DFA'd he became a free agent and signed a minor league contract gagu 1
Tom Froemming Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 You do have an open spot on the 40-man roster. He is not on it. After he was DFA'd he became a free agent and signed a minor league contractWrong. He's on the 40 man, it's a split major league contract, meaning he'll make less money during the time he's in the minors than he will during the time he's in the majors. SF Twins Fan 1
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted December 7, 2018 Author Posted December 7, 2018 I have no issue with any of the moves. But it does show that the Twins aren't going after the big-big money players, and if I must say, still looking hard at what they do have. Be interesting to see the arbitration settlements with the likes of Sano and Buxton and if they do extend Berrios and Rosario. Yes, they can still add a bullpen arm. They might pull off a trade. I hate to see them just jettison players from the current 40-man with nothing received in return. But we will see. Hope they don't see the need for a Rule 5, especially a bullpen arm. Will the Twins break $90 million in salary? Will anyone go to TwinsFest? It doesn't show anything... These are individual moves and doesn't stop the Twins from doing more moves. I'm not saying they will do a ton more, but they will certainly do more. Danchat and gagu 2
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted December 7, 2018 Author Posted December 7, 2018 I will have to research him more before I can make a fair assessment. But he provides seeming depth and competition. That's a good thing. And we also need that depth at Rochester.On the surface, I'm OK with this signing. I was pretty mesh about the Torreyes signing initially ,but when Dan Hayes tweeted that it was a split deal and he has an option remaining, I like it. He has an option left, so he could go down. He could compete with Adrianza for a utility infield job in 2019, and if he wins, Adrianza's contract isn't guaranteed. Also, one more year of Adrianza as a utility guy might make him a $2 million guy, in which case they can non-tender him and Torreyes does the same job in 2020 or $1.2 million instead. Also, Torreyes has hit a bit in the big leagues too, so there's certainly some talent there. d-mac, gagu and DocBauer 3
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Wrong. He's on the 40 man, it's a split major league contract, meaning he'll make less money during the time he's in the minors than he will during the time he's in the majors. Alright. Looks like he is. Edited December 7, 2018 by Thrylos
Tom Froemming Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 If he were on the 40-man, with the Schoop addition, the roster would be at 41...He's listed on the 40 man at the team's site, and I count 40 guys on there. Did you forget to subtract Grossman? Thrylos 1
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 Signing Torreyes with Adrianza on the roster suddenly makes me feel a little better about Cron and Austin on the roster. My guess is that the boys are acquiring talent and setting up options. Nothing is in stone. I'm absolutely OK with that. Umm... Well. Unless I'm wrong DocBauer, rdehring, gagu and 1 other 4
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 I have no issue with any of the moves. But it does show that the Twins aren't going after the big-big money players, and if I must say, still looking hard at what they do have. Be interesting to see the arbitration settlements with the likes of Sano and Buxton and if they do extend Berrios and Rosario. Yes, they can still add a bullpen arm. They might pull off a trade. I hate to see them just jettison players from the current 40-man with nothing received in return. But we will see. Hope they don't see the need for a Rule 5, especially a bullpen arm. Will the Twins break $90 million in salary? Will anyone go to TwinsFest? it shows that the Twins have made moves to fill out the infield. There’s still more work to be done, hopefully 2-3 pitchers and maybe an outfielder with a big stick DocBauer 1
ashbury Verified Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 We now have 19 batters and only 21 pitchers on the roster. I found it so strange the past year or two running with 24 or 25 arms and barely enough bats for just the 25-man roster. Vanimal46 1
SF Twins Fan Verified Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 They didn't You might want to get your facts straight. He's on the 40 man roster. darin617 1
twinsfansd Verified Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 Like I said on another thread, they need to have players that are MLB capable on their roster with options available so they can move them on and off the roster as they need to adjust the size of their bullpen throughout the year. The same thing applies to some of the bottom options in the bullpen. Ben Noble 1
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 I was pretty mesh about the Torreyes signing initially ,but when Dan Hayes tweeted that it was a split deal and he has an option remaining, I like it. He has an option left, so he could go down. He could compete with Adrianza for a utility infield job in 2019, and if he wins, Adrianza's contract isn't guaranteed. Also, one more year of Adrianza as a utility guy might make him a $2 million guy, in which case they can non-tender him and Torreyes does the same job in 2020 or $1.2 million instead. Also, Torreyes has hit a bit in the big leagues too, so there's certainly some talent there. By no means a big bat, but decent milb BA and OB with a few SB tossed in. And yes, he has actually hit some at the ML level. Reminds me a little bit of picking up Adrianza on the cheap. With Gordon, Arraez and Schales, provides some depth. Not excited, but OK with the move. Fully expecting further moves, either FA or trades, and the 40 man to still be in flux the next couple of months. (Duh, right?). But I'm wondering if this doesn't turn out to be a 40 man removal at some point and a milb signing. rdehring 1
dxpavelka Verified Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 1. C Garver2. DH Cron3. LF Rosario4. CF Buxton5. RF Cave6. 3B Sano7. SS Polanco8. 2B Schoop9. 1B Austin-- Bench --10. OF Kepler11. C Castro12. IF AdrianzaI understand he has an option remaining, but we signed Torreyes to an mlb contract despite not having a roster spot for him? Also, Castro is bad; need to trade him and let Astudillo have his spot.Austudillo's a nice story. But if you're counting on him you might as well pencil in another 90 loss season. darin617 1
Pardon My Dinger Verified Member Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 This one I surely do not understand.
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