Rosterman Verified Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Hildenberger...unless the Twins think he is the next Anthony Slama!
bighat Verified Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 I always liked DanSan - I guess I've had a soft spot since his torrid rookie campaign when he carried the Twins on his back for a month. If he clears waivers (did he already?) then will he report to AAA? I think he'll find an MLB team that would need him at some point this season. Sorry to see ya get the boot Danny, but it was the right move! Oddly, today's a day where we could have used him out there. Grossman in the OF tonight then?
ThejacKmp Provisional Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 DJ Baxendale deserved this promotionHis 2016 numbers out of the pen and not being called up alone deserved an opportunityHis 2017 peripherals are solid...no extra base hits and below 1 WHIPBlows me away that they overlook the guys the organization draftedMust not be very good at talent evaluationRucinski is unlikely to actually pitch in the one week stint he's up, perhaps they want to bring a guy who isn't in the long term plans because they're not wasting development time.
ThejacKmp Provisional Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 I thought I"d be happier when this moment finally came. But is the Tepesch, Adrianza, Rucinski trio any better than DanSan, Gibson and Boshers? Adrianza, just based on his defensive potential alone, is likely an upgrade over Santana, but I view the pitchers as a wash if not a step backward ... who thought it possible? Is he? He's a step up in the IF and a step back in the OF. If he takes PT from Escobar that means you traded Escobar's bat and D for Grossman's bat and D (he's now the 4th OF). I'm not sure that's a win for the Twins. It's a super lateral move. I'd rather see Park as a PH. Might actually win you a game. Santana could at least steal a base, I don't see what Adrianza adds to this team.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Looks like Granite and Haley are active for Rochester. Granite up Buxton down
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 The Adrianza/Santana swap may be the least surprising Twins move in history.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 DSan must have known he wasn't long for MLB. I had my fun with it but am hoping to retire all the jokes now (no promises when it comes to teh game threads). Also, he went out with a home run in his final game here. How nice is that?
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 DSan must have known he wasn't long for MLB. I had my fun with it but am hoping to retire all the jokes now (no promises when it comes to teh game threads). Also, he went out with a home run in his final game here. How nice is that?Just like Ted Williams...
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 5, 2017 Author Posted May 5, 2017 So, Kyle Gibson was sent down?Yes, if you missed it, Gibson was demoted yesterday.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 (oh dog please forgive me, but just one more joke...)
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Just like Ted Williams... Yes and DanSan was also batting .19955 on that final day, and Molitor offered to sit him so it would be .200 forever, but DanSan said, "no, coach. I'm playing."
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Is he? He's a step up in the IF and a step back in the OF. If he takes PT from Escobar that means you traded Escobar's bat and D for Grossman's bat and D (he's now the 4th OF). I'm not sure that's a win for the Twins. It's a super lateral move. I'd rather see Park as a PH. Might actually win you a game. Santana could at least steal a base, I don't see what Adrianza adds to this team.I can't say I'm sad to see DanSan go. I think the Twins get a slight upgrade on defense with Adrianza but the hitting is probably a wash. I think you have a great point about how he is used. If Adrianza stays in the OF like Santana then I'm all for giving somebody other than Danny a look. I've been calling for a 4th OFer for a while now. If he's used as the utility IFer as well and they're benching Escobar's bat and forcing Grossman to be the 4th OFer then I'm with you 100%, I think at best it's a horizontal move. I suppose there are a lot of ways to utilize him, which is a good thing, but hopefully his primary role is as the 4th OFer.
darin617 Verified Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 When do the St Paul Saints start so people who loved Danny Santana can go watch him play in the near future?
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Looks like Granite and Haley are active for Rochester. Haley cannot be active for Rochester. He is on the DL. Unless it is a rehab assignment.
curt1965 Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 I can hardly wait to read all the TD posters exclaiming sheer exhilaration over the DFA of Danny Santana. Can hardly believe all the hate this kid has endured. He really screwed up by having such a good rookie season: after that year, you'd think the kid had a contagious case of leprosy!The front office doesn't owe me any explanations, but IMHO then Twins now have four pitchers-Rucinsky, Tonkin, Bleslow, and Tepesch-who would not make another major league roster. It would be nice to see guys that would be prominent to their success in the future.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 but IMHO then Twins now have four pitchers-Rucinsky, Tonkin, Bleslow, and Tepesch-who would not make another major league roster. It would be nice to see guys that would be prominent to their success in the future.Yeah, too bad most of them are on the DL. Chargois, Reed, Jay, et al.
Linus Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 I can hardly wait to read all the TD posters exclaiming sheer exhilaration over the DFA of Danny Santana. Can hardly believe all the hate this kid has endured. He really screwed up by having such a good rookie season: after that year, you'd think the kid had a contagious case of leprosy!The front office doesn't owe me any explanations, but IMHO then Twins now have four pitchers-Rucinsky, Tonkin, Bleslow, and Tepesch-who would not make another major league roster. It would be nice to see guys that would be prominent to their success in the future.There is always a whipping boy on these boards. I wonder who the next candidate is....
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 I hope he makes it through waivers and gets regular playing time in AAA. Reading through the numerous posts in this site, passing through waivers shouldn't be an issue.
old nurse Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 There is always a whipping boy on these boards. I wonder who the next candidate is....Did you miss the multiple posts on Mauer, Hughes, Grossman, almost everybody in the bullpen, and Santiago? I guess Castro or Gimmenez
Guest Guests Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Haley cannot be active for Rochester. He is on the DL. Unless it is a rehab assignment.Yes, rehab assignment.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 My thoughts are what took so long with DanSan?Adrianza, obviously. I think Santana was a flyer who was given an outside chance to prove he belonged here while the front office got Adrianza through rehab.
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 It's kind of a sad day for Paul Molitor. He was trying to coach Danny Santana to play in the Molitor style, but it was only partially successful. Here's hoping Santana catches on with another club, then continues to refine his skills.
mlhouse Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 We have a lot more retreads in AAA that can be brought up. Lets keep that train a rolling. I think that the evidence supports that the Twins system simply does not reward their own prospects, and prefers to bring up washouts from other teams, particularly if they have touched the major leagues, even though most of those performances were terrible. Again, the Twins can pretend they are "contenders" but this hodge podge roster of older players with a handful of younger guys is just delaying the developmental issues that will come when we need to transition to a staff that will play into the future.
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Adrianza, obviously. I think Santana was a flyer who was given an outside chance to prove he belonged here while the front office got Adrianza through rehab.I'm going back a bit further than Adrianza. What has Santana done to prove he ever belonged?
drjim Provisional Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 I'm going back a bit further than Adrianza.What has Santana done to prove he ever belonged? He was awesome in 2014. And has tantalized with tools forever. They weren't going to cut him in 2015 (and he had an option), 2016 was a terrible enough year there was no point to cut loose someone like him. He hung on until now.
Linus Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Plus he did a credible job in CF the year they threw him in there with no prior experience. He did what the club asked him to do which may have been detrimental to his career. He's not been a great player but the angst....
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 I'm going back a bit further than Adrianza.What has Santana done to prove he ever belonged?Very little, but that's not really on this front office. It appears they went and got the guy they wanted in Adrianza, unfortunately he got injured in Spring Training.
hybridbear Verified Member Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 They are dangerously close to still having the worst SP and position player in MLB.Who would the other ones be?
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 My guess is Santana never again has a regular job in the big leagues. He'll spend a few years as AAA injury depth, getting a week or two here and there, then be out of baseball. I'm also skeptical Adrianza is his ultimate replacement, but fully on board with giving him an opportunity.
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