Sam Caulder Twins Daily Contributor Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Image courtesy of © Kyle Ross-Imagn Images The Twins' farm system has quietly become one of the best in baseball. That probably isn't much of a surprise, if you've followed the organization over the past couple of years. Walker Jenkins has established himself as one of the premier prospects in baseball. Kaelen Culpepper has raised his stock since being selected in the first round in 2024. Less than two weeks ago, the Twins selected catcher Vahn Lackey with the third overall pick in the MLB Draft. All three of those guys project to be quality major-leaguers at premium positions, and all three are (at least) fringe-top 50 league-wide prospects. But what really separates this farm system from others is everything behind them. Marek Houston has taken massive strides at the plate this year. In addition to his bat, the Twins’ 2025 first-round pick is widely regarded as the best defensive prospect in the organization. Outfielder Hendry Mendez has quietly put together another excellent season while, in my opinion, still not receiving the recognition he deserves. Emmanuel Rodriguez remains one of the highest-upside players in the organization whenever he's healthy. Eduardo Tait has been hammering baseballs at High-A despite being just 19, and both Dasan Hill and Riley Quick have incredible swing-and-miss stuff on the mound. It's rare to have a core of true high-upside prospects this deep. That's exactly where the Twins find themselves today. What makes this group especially impressive is the variety of talent throughout the system. The Twins aren't relying on one or two players to carry the future of the organization. They have talent spread across the diamond and at different stages of development. Naturally, the first reaction when looking at a group like this is simple: hold onto them. It's an understandable way of thinking. Prospects represent hope; they're the players fans imagine becoming the next core of a winning team. If everything breaks right, there's certainly a path where many of these names spend years contributing in Minnesota. Jenkins has the potential to become the face of the franchise. Culpepper and Houston look capable of becoming long-term pieces in the infield. Lackey, Mendez, Tait, Houston, Hill and Quick have all given the organization legitimate reasons to believe they could eventually become important parts of the next great Twins team. But prospect development rarely follows a straight line. For every top prospect who pans out, another falls short. Development can stall, and some players don't adjust to major-league competition as quickly as expected. Others take unexpected paths and become much better players than anyone originally anticipated. It's one of the realities every front office has to account for, no matter how talented a farm system appears. That's part of what makes a deep farm system so valuable. The goal isn't to collect prospects; it's to build the best possible major-league team. Sometimes, those prospects become stars in your own organization. Other times, they become the centerpiece of a trade that brings an established piece to Minnesota. Neither outcome should be viewed as a failure. This isn't about having "too many" prospects. There's really no such thing. Every organization would love to have more young talent. Instead, the Twins have finally built enough organizational depth to approach those conversations differently than they could a couple of years ago. If an impact arm with multiple years of team control becomes available, the Twins have enough talent to put together a competitive offer without emptying the cupboard. That doesn't mean the Twins need to start shopping their best prospect, but they have the flexibility to look around. Of course, that doesn't mean they should move a top prospect for just anyone. The return would have to be worth it. Trading one of the organization's premier prospects for a short-term rental (a player who only fills a need for a few months) wouldn't make sense and would likely send the fanbase into a frenzy. If they ever decide to move one of their top prospects, it would have to be for the type of player every organization is searching for: someone young, controllable, and capable of making a significant impact for multiple seasons. Pitching help would make the most sense. The Twins' biggest weakness right now is on the mound, especially in the bullpen. Injuries and inconsistency have created questions throughout the pitching staff, and adding another reliable pitcher or two would go a long way. But it wouldn't just be about adding one; it would be about adding the right one. A younger arm who’s still in his pre-arbitration years or with multiple seasons of arbitration remaining would be worth offering a significant prospect package for. Someone who can help the Twins immediately while also remaining a key part of the organization for years to come can change the trajectory of a franchise. Maybe this entire group stays together. If that happens, the Twins could have one of the youngest and most exciting cores in baseball over the next several seasons. It's an outcome every fan should be excited about. But if the right opportunity presents itself, moving one or two prospects shouldn't automatically be viewed as the wrong decision either. The purpose of building a farm system is to improve the major-league club. Sometimes that happens by watching homegrown talent develop into stars. Other times, it happens by using a portion of that talent to acquire proven players who can help you win immediately. The Twins have reached the point where both options, to an extent, are available. For an organization hoping to contend not just this year, but for years to come, that's a fascinating crossroads to come to. View full article
Rufus Verified Member Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 of he Twins top 14 prospects are catchers.. See what a Jeffers trade can bring. Coach, Mike Sixel, glunn and 4 others 7
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago He's not a top of the rotation arm, but Emerson Hancock has 4 more years of control left and is rumored to be available from the Mariners. That's the "bigger" move I make. Add another MLB arm to the rotation. Only I'm not using any of these prospects to get him. I'm using Ryan Jeffers. Coach, DocBauer, Linus and 6 others 9
weitz41 Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I'm for adding to it (prospects) at the current deadline. There's 2-3 (maybe more) that likely will be on the Twins 26-man roster by the next deadline. A few pitchers who may be starters or good BP arms and a couple of corner IF that slug and if could be a fun run.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: He's not a top of the rotation arm, but Emerson Hancock has 4 more years of control left and is rumored to be available from the Mariners. That's the "bigger" move I make. Add another MLB arm to the rotation. Only I'm not using any of these prospects to get him. I'm using Ryan Jeffers. I doubt SEA is looking for a catcher, but maybe they want Raleigh at DH? Maybe they are? I think you could go Larnach, Jeffers, Lewis (not sure they trust him over Naylor)....maybe if you take money back? I don't know....I htinnk you have to give up a prospect in this deal. I'd do: Jeffers, Larnach, Hill or Soto for Hancock. I'd sub in EMrod if they want him instead . Seattle has a SP in the minors ready to go.......
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I'd happily take either of SEA top minor league SPs for Jeffers and Hill or Soto....happily.
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Thanks for this article. I agree that the Twins' current system could support a trade but to me the only trade that makes sense is one for a controllable piece(s), preferably at least one pitcher. We certainly don't have enough prospect depth to deal prospects for a rental pitcher and besides, the current Twins team isn't good enough and doesn't have a high enough enough ceiling to make that kind of a trade make any sense. I would like to see if a package highlighted by one of our AAA OFs could generate a controllable pitcher in return. The three prospects I would consider trading are ERod (#4), Gabriel Gonzalez (#10), and Henry Mendez (#12) and I would also consider trading Alan Roden. The pitchers I would target who are at least rumored to be potentially available are Reid Detmers, Jose Soriano, Emerson Hancock, and George Kirby. There very well may be others but it has to be someone established as a mid rotation guy who has at least 2.5 controllable years before I would be interested in trading one of the three prospects. I would also kick the the tires on what kind of prospect package it would take to pry away CJ Abrams, Jeremy Pena, or Zach Neto to play short, or even a catcher like Shea Langeliers or Audley Rutschman (probably too much). Another thought would be to try to trade for a youngish catcher like Langeliers or Rutschman, and then trade Jeffers and Caratini to backfill the system for the prospects traded. A package for a Langeliers or Rutschman could include Eduardo Tait now that we drafted Lackey. First choice would be a pitching trade, maybe a trade with the Angels where we get either Detmers or Soriano plus a reliever like Sam Bachmann or Ryan Zeferjahn in return for package headlined by one of three outfielders, plus another guy in the 10 to 20 range like Ryan Gallagher or John Klein, plus a Kyle DeBarge, Ben Ross, or Kala'i Rosario type. We get a middle of the rotation controllable starting pitcher with 2.5 years of control and an early arbitration reliever, they get an outfielder with star potential, a pitcher with upside, and a player that could potentially be the second baseman or a utility infielder. We could then add in another A or A+ ball guy to balance the trade scales. Those names may be totally unrealistic but hopefully the concept makes sense. glunn, Patzky and DocBauer 3
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, Mike Sixel said: I doubt SEA is looking for a catcher, but maybe they want Raleigh at DH? Maybe they are? I think you could go Larnach, Jeffers, Lewis (not sure they trust him over Naylor)....maybe if you take money back? I don't know....I htinnk you have to give up a prospect in this deal. I'd do: Jeffers, Larnach, Hill or Soto for Hancock. I'd sub in EMrod if they want him instead . Seattle has a SP in the minors ready to go....... I think they're looking for offense in any form. Cal is AWFUL this year. He'd still be there long-term catcher, but Jeffers would provide significantly better offense for the rest of this year. And if they choose to sign Ryan after the season, then you have 2 catchers which can keep Cal rested and he's more than enough offense to DH if he gets back close to what he was last year. Jeffers and Larnach would be good. I wouldn't give up either Hill or Soto. I get they have a relatively low chance of reaching their ceilings, but their ceilings are very high and I want all the high ceiling arms I can get. Jeffers and Emma would be fine with me, but probably wouldn't go Jeffers, Larnach, and Emma. Hancock is a mid-rotation kind of guy, in my opinion. You're paying for his team control as a reliable rotation arm more than you're paying for him to lead a rotation. DocBauer 1
Hawkeye Bean Counter Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I’m trying to piece together the trade calculator- Would anyone bat an eye if we traded a package based around Rojas to Toronto with a sweetener for Varland?
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: I'd happily take either of SEA top minor league SPs for Jeffers and Hill or Soto....happily. I don't think there's a realistic trade for Kade. I don't think they're moving him at all. Castillo or Hancock are probably the only arms they're moving. Sloan is maybe a little gettable, but it'd cost much more than Jeffers and either of those arms to get him, I'd bet. Dman 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: I don't think there's a realistic trade for Kade. I don't think they're moving him at all. Castillo or Hancock are probably the only arms they're moving. Sloan is maybe a little gettable, but it'd cost much more than Jeffers and either of those arms to get him, I'd bet. I don't think anyone can trade enough for kade, agreed...... chpettit19 1
glunn Community Moderator Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, LA Vikes Fan said: Thanks for this article. I agree that the Twins' current system could support a trade but to me the only trade that makes sense is one for a controllable piece(s), preferably at least one pitcher. We certainly don't have enough prospect depth to deal prospects for a rental pitcher and besides, the current Twins team isn't good enough and doesn't have a high enough enough ceiling to make that kind of a trade make any sense. I would like to see if a package highlighted by one of our AAA OFs could generate a controllable pitcher in return. The three prospects I would consider trading are ERod (#4), Gabriel Gonzalez (#10), and Henry Mendez (#12) and I would also consider trading Alan Roden. The pitchers I would target who are at least rumored to be potentially available are Reid Detmers, Jose Soriano, Emerson Hancock, and George Kirby. There very well may be others but it has to be someone established as a mid rotation guy who has at least 2.5 controllable years before I would be interested in trading one of the three prospects. I would also kick the the tires on what kind of prospect package it would take to pry away CJ Abrams, Jeremy Pena, or Zach Neto to play short, or even a catcher like Shea Langeliers or Audley Rutschman (probably too much). Another thought would be to try to trade for a youngish catcher like Langeliers or Rutschman, and then trade Jeffers and Caratini to backfill the system for the prospects traded. A package for a Langeliers or Rutschman could include Eduardo Tait now that we drafted Lackey. First choice would be a pitching trade, maybe a trade with the Angels where we get either Detmers or Soriano plus a reliever like Sam Bachmann or Ryan Zeferjahn in return for package headlined by one of three outfielders, plus another guy in the 10 to 20 range like Ryan Gallagher or John Klein, plus a Kyle DeBarge, Ben Ross, or Kala'i Rosario type. We get a middle of the rotation controllable starting pitcher with 2.5 years of control and an early arbitration reliever, they get an outfielder with star potential, a pitcher with upside, and a player that could potentially be the second baseman or a utility infielder. We could then add in another A or A+ ball guy to balance the trade scales. Those names may be totally unrealistic but hopefully the concept makes sense. I agree about trading only for controllable players. I don't have much hope for the postseason this year, and would like to see the Twins target 2027 or 2028 to be ready for a serious run. I also wonder if Wallner might have some trade value as a throw in -- his upside seems worth a shot after a change in scenery. Mike Sixel and DocBauer 2
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: I think they're looking for offense in any form. Cal is AWFUL this year. He'd still be there long-term catcher, but Jeffers would provide significantly better offense for the rest of this year. And if they choose to sign Ryan after the season, then you have 2 catchers which can keep Cal rested and he's more than enough offense to DH if he gets back close to what he was last year. Jeffers and Larnach would be good. I wouldn't give up either Hill or Soto. I get they have a relatively low chance of reaching their ceilings, but their ceilings are very high and I want all the high ceiling arms I can get. Jeffers and Emma would be fine with me, but probably wouldn't go Jeffers, Larnach, and Emma. Hancock is a mid-rotation kind of guy, in my opinion. You're paying for his team control as a reliable rotation arm more than you're paying for him to lead a rotation. I have zero confidence in HS pitchers who can't stay healthy or throw strikes (or, even, in general, until they are very good in AA or above), so I'd do it.....For a number 3/4 that just pitches 5-7 innings, yes, yes I would.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, glunn said: I agree about trading only for controllable players. I don't have much hope for the postseason this year, and would like to see the Twins target 2027 or 2028 to be ready for a serious run. I also wonder if Wallner might have some trade value as a throw in -- his upside seems worth a shot after a change in scenery. Wallner should be in HOU already, for a flyer pitcher......make it so!
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: I think they're looking for offense in any form. Cal is AWFUL this year. He'd still be there long-term catcher, but Jeffers would provide significantly better offense for the rest of this year. And if they choose to sign Ryan after the season, then you have 2 catchers which can keep Cal rested and he's more than enough offense to DH if he gets back close to what he was last year. Jeffers and Larnach would be good. I wouldn't give up either Hill or Soto. I get they have a relatively low chance of reaching their ceilings, but their ceilings are very high and I want all the high ceiling arms I can get. Jeffers and Emma would be fine with me, but probably wouldn't go Jeffers, Larnach, and Emma. Hancock is a mid-rotation kind of guy, in my opinion. You're paying for his team control as a reliable rotation arm more than you're paying for him to lead a rotation. I like the idea of trading for Hancock. Do you think that Emma and Jeffers would be enough to get him? Seems like a reasonably fair trade if not a bit of an overpay by the Twins. We get a mid-rotation starter controllable through 2030, they get quality offensive catcher for the rest of this year and a high upside outfielder who can help them hopefully starting next year. Baseball Trade Values says that's an overpay by the Twins, but it would be a pretty even trade if the Mariners added in a relief pitcher like Jose Ferrer or Gabe Spier. I'm not sure I trust BTV because it's too focused on excess value which necessarily devalues rental players from their true market value for a contending team looking to get over the top but I do like the idea of trading Jeffers and Emma for Hancock, especially if we can also get Ferrer. DocBauer 1
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: I have zero confidence in HS pitchers who can't stay healthy or throw strikes (or, even, in general, until they are very good in AA or above), so I'd do it.....For a number 3/4 that just pitches 5-7 innings, yes, yes I would. That's totally fair. I'm just not somebody who is a fan of trading away ceiling. I'll take the extra risk for the extra reward opportunity. Ceiling is what wins in the playoffs. Cheap ceiling is huge. And I don't think those guys would be needed to get Hancock. I think Jeffers and a piece or 2 with less ceiling than Hill or Soto gets it done. And definitely Jeffers and Larnach with a lower ceiling piece. Shoot, Wallner was just mentioned. I'd give them Jeffers, Larnach, and Wallner for Hancock. Mike Sixel and DocBauer 1 1
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: That's totally fair. I'm just not somebody who is a fan of trading away ceiling. I'll take the extra risk for the extra reward opportunity. Ceiling is what wins in the playoffs. Cheap ceiling is huge. And I don't think those guys would be needed to get Hancock. I think Jeffers and a piece or 2 with less ceiling than Hill or Soto gets it done. And definitely Jeffers and Larnach with a lower ceiling piece. Shoot, Wallner was just mentioned. I'd give them Jeffers, Larnach, and Wallner for Hancock. Jeffers, Larnach and Wallner for Hancock? I would make that trade this afternoon if I thought it was available. By the way, BTV rates that an even trade, in part because they see Wallner as having a value of 0. Cory Engelhardt, DocBauer, chpettit19 and 1 other 4
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, LA Vikes Fan said: I like the idea of trading for Hancock. Do you think that Emma and Jeffers would be enough to get him? Seems like a reasonably fair trade if not a bit of an overpay by the Twins. We get a mid-rotation starter controllable through 2030, they get quality offensive catcher for the rest of this year and a high upside outfielder who can help them hopefully starting next year. Baseball Trade Values says that's an overpay by the Twins, but it would be a pretty even trade if the Mariners added in a relief pitcher like Jose Ferrer or Gabe Spier. I'm not sure I trust BTV because it's too focused on excess value which necessarily devalues rental players from their true market value for a contending team looking to get over the top but I do like the idea of trading Jeffers and Emma for Hancock, especially if we can also get Ferrer. I mean, KLAW would call that an overpay, Fangraphs would not (EMMA isn't even in their top 100 anymore). I'd do that trade all day. ALL DAY. Cory Engelhardt 1
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 33 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: He's not a top of the rotation arm, but Emerson Hancock has 4 more years of control left and is rumored to be available from the Mariners. That's the "bigger" move I make. Add another MLB arm to the rotation. Only I'm not using any of these prospects to get him. I'm using Ryan Jeffers. MLB trade rumors says they’re looking for right handed bats. Jeffers is the best one of those that we have to offer.
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, LA Vikes Fan said: I like the idea of trading for Hancock. Do you think that Emma and Jeffers would be enough to get him? Seems like a reasonably fair trade if not a bit of an overpay by the Twins. We get a mid-rotation starter controllable through 2030, they get quality offensive catcher for the rest of this year and a high upside outfielder who can help them hopefully starting next year. Baseball Trade Values says that's an overpay by the Twins, but it would be a pretty even trade if the Mariners added in a relief pitcher like Jose Ferrer or Gabe Spier. I'm not sure I trust BTV because it's too focused on excess value which necessarily devalues rental players from their true market value for a contending team looking to get over the top but I do like the idea of trading Jeffers and Emma for Hancock, especially if we can also get Ferrer. I think Jeffers and Emma would be a bit of an overpay, yes. I think it should certainly be enough. And I wouldn't hate it. I think Emma is very talented, but at some point the injuries are just too much. I like the general Hancock/Ferrer for Jeffers/Emma outline. I think it'd be worth both team's time to talk about it. DocBauer and Hawkeye Bean Counter 2
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, thelanges5 said: MLB trade rumors says they’re looking for right handed bats. Jeffers is the best one of those that we have to offer. Don't get my hopes up.
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: Royce Lewis hits right handed..... 🤔
Hawkeye Bean Counter Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, chpettit19 said: I think Jeffers and Emma would be a bit of an overpay, yes. I think it should certainly be enough. And I wouldn't hate it. I think Emma is very talented, but at some point the injuries are just too much. I like the general Hancock/Ferrer for Jeffers/Emma outline. I think it'd be worth both team's time to talk about it. With Emma and Tait they are players that are immensely talented with risk profiles that will potentially limit them injuries for Emma and hit tool for both him and Tait. I am willing to trade both as we now have some talented outfielders and catchers in the system with less risk and similar upside we can capture the potential ceiling value while removing the risk it doesn’t pan out. I am still willing to trade high school arms for 2-3 years of #2 pitcher. I would do the Sonny Gray trade every year if we could pull that off.
ashbury Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, chpettit19 said: He's not a top of the rotation arm, but Emerson Hancock has 4 more years of control left and is rumored to be available from the Mariners. That's the "bigger" move I make. Add another MLB arm to the rotation. Only I'm not using any of these prospects to get him. I'm using Ryan Jeffers. If they're interested in Jeffers then they are going for it, and then why would they trade away the starting pitcher giving them the second most b-r value this season, who I believe isn't even eligible for arbitration yet?
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 54 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: Royce Lewis hits right handed..... The Twins had the chance to trade Royce to Seattle after the 2023 season. The ideas for trades are fun but a little wild because we are all guessing. There might be an outside shot that the Twins could trade with Tampa Bay. I'm sure Larnach and/or Jeffers make sense for the Rays. Brody Hopkins and Ty Johnson are interesting asks. Seattle does need bats. Jeffers and Lewis might make sense if Bryan Woo comes back. The Twins would need to add another player, maybe James Ellwanger and Hendry Mendez. Conversely, one wonders if the Mariners are hyped enough about adding the two bats to send Ryan Sloan and Felnin Celesten. Again the Twins may need to add a pitcher. Boston is angling for a catcher as well. The guys I want from Boston are Anthony Eyanson and Franklin Arias. Neither is likely on the table. Are the Red Sox still interested in Joe Ryan? I hope the Twins keep Ryan. Lastly, the Dirty Dodgers are almost certainly sniffing around for a catcher. Mike Sirota? In some ways it seems like the Twins may be quiet this trade deadline. I do think there must be a path to cut back on outfielders from the 40 person roster. Then again, I put Sirota's name forward which only adds to the unbalanced roster look.
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, ashbury said: If they're interested in Jeffers then they are going for it, and then why would they trade away the starting pitcher giving them the second most b-r value this season, who I believe isn't even eligible for arbitration yet? Because they have the best pitching prospect in baseball abusing minor league hitters with nowhere to put him. I didn't come up with the Hancock idea on my own. It's being reported pretty widely that the Mariners are open to trading from their rotation to add to their lineup. They'd prefer to move Castillo, but he'd bring the least in return. Hancock is the name I've seen recently that they're trying to sell high on to bring back an MLB bat. Mike Sixel, DocBauer and ashbury 3
Colbeh Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, chpettit19 said: He's not a top of the rotation arm, but Emerson Hancock has 4 more years of control left and is rumored to be available from the Mariners. That's the "bigger" move I make. Add another MLB arm to the rotation. Only I'm not using any of these prospects to get him. I'm using Ryan Jeffers. Mariners would be a ready good trade partner for us to get a controllable SP. Gilbert, Woo, Kirby, Miller, Hancock, Castillo and Kade/Sloan not far behind. They may need to trade one of those for some offensive help this year. I'd love to grab Kirby if hes available, but Hancock would make the most sense to get. I read earlier in the year that he's trying out a new pitch that has helped him find a good deal of success so far. Tait would be perfect for them, matches up well for when Cal needs to DH more as he gets older. They're also well equipped for a deep playoff run so they'll need some ML players to help with that. They need some BP help and a RH hitter who can play outfield or platoon in the infield. Ideally Jeffers since Cal has a lingering oblique injury or else maybe Keaschall who I would hate to lose. They have Robles so im not sure Martin would help them at all. Maybe sell high on Gomez but that would hurt our BP quite a bit. Some combination of the above and some low level flyers
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said: With Emma and Tait they are players that are immensely talented with risk profiles that will potentially limit them injuries for Emma and hit tool for both him and Tait. I am willing to trade both as we now have some talented outfielders and catchers in the system with less risk and similar upside we can capture the potential ceiling value while removing the risk it doesn’t pan out. I am still willing to trade high school arms for 2-3 years of #2 pitcher. I would do the Sonny Gray trade every year if we could pull that off. Couldn't afford to do the Sonny Gray trade every year. Financially speaking. That's why you need cheap ceiling. I've been open to trading Emma for a couple years now. When they were in "win now" mode. I'm not so open to the idea of trading young guys now. Because I think the real window opens in 2028. And I don't subscribe to any idea that you ever have a surplus anywhere when you aren't in "win now" mode. I don't care if the Twins have 8 OF prospects with a chance of being major leaguers, I'd still want a 9th and 10th. Don't care if they have 5 C prospects with a chance of being major leaguers, I'd still want a 6th and 7th. Playing the guessing game of which one will make it and which one won't is a dangerous game. When you're in your window, I'm all for trading some prospects for major leaguers. I had no problem at all with the Mahle/Lopez deadline. But when you're working on opening your window, I want every last prospect I can get. If 6 OFers end up succeeding, then I'm in my new window and I trade a couple to fill other holes. It's all about where you're at in the cycle to me. And I don't think the Twins are in a part of the cycle that should include trading away ceiling. Unless you're getting something pretty impressive like 4 more years of Emerson Hancock. DocBauer and Hawkeye Bean Counter 1 1
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Colbeh said: Mariners would be a ready good trade partner for us to get a controllable SP. Gilbert, Woo, Kirby, Miller, Hancock, Castillo and Kade/Sloan not far behind. They may need to trade one of those for some offensive help this year. I'd love to grab Kirby if hes available, but Hancock would make the most sense to get. I read earlier in the year that he's trying out a new pitch that has helped him find a good deal of success so far. Tait would be perfect for them, matches up well for when Cal needs to DH more as he gets older. They're also well equipped for a deep playoff run so they'll need some ML players to help with that. They need some BP help and a RH hitter who can play outfield or platoon in the infield. Ideally Jeffers since Cal has a lingering oblique injury or else maybe Keaschall who I would hate to lose. They have Robles so im not sure Martin would help them at all. Maybe sell high on Gomez but that would hurt our BP quite a bit. Some combination of the above and some low level flyers They're certainly an intriguing option in my eyes. Reports are that they're finally willing to trade from their rotation to add to their lineup. Jeffers would be the piece I'd start with and see where talks go from there. DocBauer, Hawkeye Bean Counter and Colbeh 3
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