Trade deadline day thread

[nicksaviking]

6 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

I know! I know!  Bad at his job.

I'm not a Rocco Baldelli fan, but I do think he'd probably do well on a big market club that doesn't have to rely on developmental players and he can mix and match his veterans as he likes. I think he'd do well on the Yankees, AND I think those veteran players would like him.

[TNtwins85]

13 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

Shouldn't have been in a rush to announce it then.  

If he didn’t any one of another 30 people would have…

[bunsen82]

The Twins after several years of ruminating gave the beef stew back to the Dodgers.   

[mrtwinsfan]

6 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I disagree. There is no Miguel Sano or Brian Buchanan in this group who's lack of athleticism is the root of their problems. This looks like a team full of Corey Koskie, Michael Cuddyer and Brian Dozier. They may not be able to play up the middle positions or steal 20 bases, but they can be taught how to play a position properly, avoid reckless outs on the basepaths and hit relatively consistently.

I think we forget that Ron Gardenhire was the coach who worked with the young position players on fundamentals when Tom Kelly was fed up with the youth movement, and Paul Molitor went to every spring training to be an instructional coach for nearly two decades before he was named manager. Some managers are teachers, that's their thing and they're good at it. Like Joe Maddon and Craig Counsell. Some managers are.....I have no clue what Rocco Baldelli is actually.

, but they can be taught how to play a position properly, avoid reckless outs on the basepaths and hit relatively consistently.--  ------Plouffe had a good response to development , they need to ALL be on the same page at every level and have coaches that all get on the same page , we have zero idea from Class a all the way up , it seems like no one has any control , look at all the high draft picks that we try to turn into what they  have never done at hardly any levels , Sano was the funniest !!!!   right field ---  99% of these guys have played  certain spots all there life , its gotta start at the lowest rookie ball , and have a development program of alot of people ,  im sick  of all the experimenting at the major league level!!

[jaimedude]

Can we throw in Mickey Gasper in the Brock Stewart deal just so Rocco cannot start him at DH and bat him lead off anymore. 

[Patzky]

Phightin Phans are lamenting the Bader signing fwiw 

[tony&rodney]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

I don't disagree on the lack of speed. But not being below average in foot speed doesn't mean you can't competently play corner spots, run the bases properly and hit consistently. Being fast doesn't have anything to do with these guys not playing fundamentally sound or consistent baseball.

The lack of speed makes some difference, undeniable. Correa is slow but is still an adequate shortstop. Our corner outfielders (Larnach, Wallner) are pure DH's in the mold of late career Nelson Cruz when it comes to both fielding and base running. Brooks Lee could be a decent third baseman. He will never be avaerage elsewhere. He is slow too and a base clog. Lee can play fundamentally sound baseball when he is focused. Lewis is a concern on the bases at times due to past injuries. He is ok at third base. That leaves the team with one player right now. However, that guy is on the IL.  

Keirsey Jr. is going to play full time and he can field and run the bases. Julien will be back up. Martin too. 

I guess all I'm hoping for is that whomever plays, they run out everything at full sppeed and hustle all the time and hit the cutoff man on every single throw.

[Western SD Fan]

7 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'm not a Rocco Baldelli fan, but I do think he'd probably do well on a big market club that doesn't have to rely on developmental players and he can mix and match his veterans as he likes. I think he'd do well on the Yankees, AND I think those veteran players would like him.

I've said this for some time now.  Part of the Rocco's greatness was in his first year with a veteran lineup (Bomba Squad) and having Nelson Cruz as a player-manager.  I think Correa wants to be that player-manager type, but availability is still important not only to on-field performance, but how other players respect you as a teammate.  Rocco just really had to manage a few day-to-day activities and some egos.  That seems to be what he does best.  He certainly doesn't do well in managing an unproven team that still needs instruction at the major-league level.

[Patzky]

3 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

The Twins after several years of ruminating gave the beef stew back to the Dodgers.   

Ruminating or marinating.

[Dman]

1 minute ago, Patzky said:

Phightin Phans are lamenting the Bader signing fwiw 

They'll love him once they watch him play.

[Patzky]

Just now, Dman said:

They'll love him once they watch him play.

That's what I told some Tigers fans about Paddack (but using less glowing terms)

[bunsen82]

2 minutes ago, Patzky said:

Ruminating or marinating.

Well it didn't spoil,  but it also didn't fall apart either.   There are some interesting components of the beef stew,  Still seems to be a little rubbery and found a piece of duct tape in there.  

[Western SD Fan]

3 minutes ago, Patzky said:

Phightin Phans are lamenting the Bader signing fwiw 

Tell them we are sending TC Bear to Philadelphia as a Bader Tots buddy.

[The Great Hambino]

4 minutes ago, Patzky said:

Phightin Phans are lamenting the Bader signing fwiw 

He was crappy with the Mets last year, which is likely when most of them last saw him play.  I can understand the sentiment

[Western SD Fan]

2 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

Well it didn't spoil,  but it also didn't fall apart either.   There are some interesting components of the beef stew,  Still seems to be some rubber bands and found a piece of duct tape in there.  

Sounds like the mystery box that Falvey keeps getting back for his deadline trade deals.

[Patzky]

2 minutes ago, Western SD Fan said:

Tell them we are sending TC Bear to Philadelphia as a Bader Tots buddy.

They want the Duran Intro software program too..

[bunsen82]

1 minute ago, The Great Hambino said:

He was crappy with the Mets last year, which is likely when most of them last saw him play.  I can understand the sentiment

Bader has played great this year.  

[Western SD Fan]

Listening to MLB.com and one of the pundits made the comment that prospects get GM's fired.  Apparently, they forgot that the Twins exist.

[Mike Sixel]

I wish the TWins could figure out how to package all these OK prospects for a legit player....but that doesn't really work. 

[Vanimal46]

Not breaking news or surprising… 

[bunsen82]

Isn't it ironic don't think . . .  

Stewart for Miller   -    just a joke but would be interesting.  Likely need something better than Miller.  A return to their original teams would be pretty interesting though.  

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

Not breaking news or surprising… 

I mean, does any billionaire care about anyone else? Especially customers?

[strumdatjag]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

I mean, does any billionaire care about anyone else? Especially customers?

I know of one billionaire who cares a lot about others. 

[bunsen82]

The Pohlads have been roasted for 4 decades.  They were starting to make it better 3-4 years ago.  The have been roasted pretty regularly,  but in my opinion its been well deserved.   

[Twodogs]

20 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'm not a Rocco Baldelli fan, but I do think he'd probably do well on a big market club that doesn't have to rely on developmental players and he can mix and match his veterans as he likes. I think he'd do well on the Yankees, AND I think those veteran players would like him.

I wonder what the Twins could get for Rocco?  Could they get an actual lottery ticket for him.  For that matter I wonder what kind of prospect capital Falvey would be worth.  I think it would be great for Falvey to get a fresh start in a new different organization?  Maybe back to Cleveland?  The Royals could use his expertise??  Just a couple of thoughts.  Ha ha

[mnfireman]

No more beef stew and Bader tots for gameday meals...

[Patzky]

1 minute ago, mnfireman said:

No more beef stew and Bader tots for gameday meals...

We still have Julienned and France but no spuds.

[AceWrigley]

It would be great if the player we get back for Stewart is named Dinty Moore.

[Parfigliano]

2 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

No more beef stew and Bader tots for gameday meals...

Sadly I also think chicken dinners will be few and far between

[Western SD Fan]

I hope that this dumpster fire of a sale didn't scare off negotiations on a sale of the team.   If you include lost revenues and goodwill, the Pohlads may have cost themselves $50-200M in value.  All that to save no more than $20M in payroll.  Now if they can manage to get Correa back to the Astros somehow, that would actually save some real coin and give an upcoming ownership group some flexibility.