Trade deadline day thread

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

Bader feels a lot like Carlos Santana. A largely disliked signing who put up much better offensive numbers than expected to make us (me) eat my words.

Like Santana, I wouldn't like to bank on it two years in a row though.

I'm done with Larnach, and Bader can field, and no one else is likely ready unless they push GG, which they won't. 

[nicksaviking]

8 minutes ago, Dman said:

I like Villario pick best.  He has a long way to go, but upside is high.  Hitter has a high floor but lower ceiling IMO.  If he can hit the ball in the air more and gain some power that could change things.  Still anything for a rental is better than nothing. He's number 12 so that's pretty for Bader.  I would have preferred an arm to a bat though at 12.

Wow, is it even legal to trade a 16-year-old?!?!?

Even saying that makes me feel like I'm going to be put on an FBI watch list.

[Recognize]

Prospect after prospect and get rid of the players doing well. 

[Vanimal46]

9 minutes ago, ziggy said:

I’ll miss Bader patrolling the outfield but Kiersey is here so might as well play him.

Kiersey’s bat can’t get any worse right? I guess we will find out 

[NYCTK]

Bye Bye Brock! Good trade...can't wait to see what they got. 

[Dman]

2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Bader feels a lot like Carlos Santana. A largely disliked signing who put up much better offensive numbers than expected to make us (me) eat my words.

Like Santana, I wouldn't like to bank on it two years in a row though.

Yeah I have been eating crow for while now on Bader.  I expected very little and he ended up being one of my favorite guys to watch.

[Mike Sixel]

This is what Fangraphs wrote last year about Mendez:

Mendez came over from Milwaukee along with Robert Moore. He had an exciting contact and frame projection combo as a very young prospect, but he’s stiffened up as he’s matured and I’ve grown less confident that he’ll hit.

[Vanimal46]

Brock Stewart back home to the Dodgers 

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, Recognize said:

Prospect after prospect and get rid of the players doing well. 

They aren't winning this year, and they traded an expiring contract. That makes sense. 

[bunsen82]

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

I like Villario pick best.  He has a long way to go, but upside is high.  Hitter has a high floor but lower ceiling IMO.  If he can hit the ball in the air more and gain some power that could change things.  Still anything for a rental is better than nothing. He's number 12 so that's pretty good for Bader.  I would have preferred an arm to a bat though at 12.

Villario is 6' 2" 175 lbs as 16 year old.  12.2 SO/9.  He is a lotto ticket but he definitely has some upside.   Mendez is trending towards solid major leaguer.  The bat looks good enough,  power is gradually getting better.  Speed is average,  Hit 50 Power: 40 (hopefully trending up)  Run:50 Arm is is a 50, defense 45.  Overall 45 prospect,  pretty solid for Bader with Villario on top.  My guess is Villario is someone the Twins had been tracking for a while.  

[Mike Sixel]

Apparently I was wrong that they'd not do much today!

[P Meyer]

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

If the Pohlad's are truly selling soon, I'm sure they only care about Houston taking the rest of the salary that they still owe him this year.

Yeah, I said this elsewhere but the sticking point was money not compensation. The Twins want to spend as little as possible, and they aren't going to pay two years of Correa's contract(ish) to get rid of him. 

[TNtwins85]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

Man, Fangraphs really doesn't like the targets so far as much as others, Mendez isn't even an honorable mention for them as a prospect for Philly....

Yet he’s been more than solid at AA as a 21 yo. I like both guys for Bader who’s a rental. 3 top 15 guys and a lotto ticket out of a deep Phillies system for Bader and Duran. I think that’s a good crop so far.

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'm done with Larnach, and Bader can field, and no one else is likely ready unless they push GG, which they won't. 

Fair point, but I would only re-sign Bader to do with him exactly what they've done just now.

But if he turns into a pumpkin, like Santana did this year, then they've basically just wasted the year giving him at bats that a rebuilding team should be giving to younger players.

[jaimedude]

12 minutes ago, ziggy said:

I’ll miss Bader patrolling the outfield but Kiersey is here so might as well play him.

I hope this is sarcasm. Kiersey literally has 4 singles and 1 hr on the season. 

[Dman]

Just now, bunsen82 said:

Villario is 6' 2" 175 lbs as 16 year old.  12.2 SO/9.  He is a lotto ticket but he definitely has some upside.   Mendez is trending towards solid major leaguer.  The bat looks good enough,  power is gradually getting better.  Speed is average,  Hit 50 Power: 40 (hopefully trending up)  Run:50 Arm is is a 50, defense 45.  Overall 45 prospect,  pretty solid for Bader with Villario on top.  My guess is Villario is someone the Twins had been tracking for a while.  

Agreed it's a good get and Twins must be bullish Mendez's power potential. With Villario the Twins are sneakily adding some really good young arms at those lower levels. It will take time but should pay big dividends if they make it.

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, nicksaviking said:

Fair point, but I would only re-sign Bader to do with him exactly what they've done just now.

But if he turns into a pumpkin, like Santana did this year, then they've basically just wasted the year giving him at bats that a rebuilding team should be giving to younger players.

If there was a younger player, I'd be with you. But I just don't know who that is with this group and this FO. OTOH, they still have Lopez, Ryan, Ober and maybe Able next year.....

[bunsen82]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

This is what Fangraphs wrote last year about Mendez:

Mendez came over from Milwaukee along with Robert Moore. He had an exciting contact and frame projection combo as a very young prospect, but he’s stiffened up as he’s matured and I’ve grown less confident that he’ll hit.

He has had a very solid year at AA.   He actually started to hit a bit more, and more than anything a bit more power.   Can he continue to trend up on power and become a 15 to 20 HR player.  Thats effectively where he needs to be if he will be a hit first corner outfield.   He has more stolen bases too at 6.  Not thats is massive, but definitely shows he is not a plodder.  

[bunsen82]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

Agreed it's a good get and Twins must be bullish Mendez's power potential. With Villario the Twins are sneakily adding some really good young arms at those lower levels. It will take time but should pay big dividends if they make it.

This feels like a solid overpay.   Need to get a few more of these.  

[AceWrigley]

Man, this is way more fun than watching TC play.

[thelanges5]

Castro, Vázquez, 🇫🇷 left to trade. Let’s go Falvey!

[Vanimal46]

I wonder if Jax stays now that Duran and Stewart are shipped out? 

Castro, Coulombe, and maybe a Jax trade is what I’m hoping for the rest of the afternoon. 

[nicksaviking]

With two years of control left, Stewart better bring back something at least close to eye-brow raising.

[Vanimal46]

Just now, AceWrigley said:

Man, this is way more fun than watching TC play.

Sad but true. After today I will be taking a little vacation from watching the Twins 

[ziggy]

3 minutes ago, jaimedude said:

 

16 minutes ago, ziggy said:

I’ll miss Bader patrolling the outfield but Kiersey is here so might as well play him.

I hope this is sarcasm. Kiersey literally has 4 singles and 1 hr on the season. 

 

I typed this right before he hit the home run.

[T.O.]

1 minute ago, AceWrigley said:

Man, this is way more fun than watching TC play.

So is oral surgery.

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, bunsen82 said:

He has had a very solid year at AA.   He actually started to hit a bit more, and more than anything a bit more power.   Can he continue to trend up on power and become a 15 to 20 HR player.  Thats effectively where he needs to be if he will be a hit first corner outfield.   He has more stolen bases too at 6.  Not thats is massive, but definitely shows he is not a plodder.  

Sure, I have no idea. I'm a broken record here, but relying on one ranking site likely isn't a good idea (Fangraphs, MLB, BA, etc.). Looking across them makes more sense to me to get a feel. 

[bunsen82]

Brock Stewart should have some value

 

[TNtwins85]

2 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

He has had a very solid year at AA.   He actually started to hit a bit more, and more than anything a bit more power.   Can he continue to trend up on power and become a 15 to 20 HR player.  Thats effectively where he needs to be if he will be a hit first corner outfield.   He has more stolen bases too at 6.  Not thats is massive, but definitely shows he is not a plodder.  

I like the K/BB’s. Shows he can control the strike zone and tap into more power.

[Patzky]

Just now, bunsen82 said:

Brock Stewart should have some value

 

To the Dodgers is the scuttlebutt.