NEWS: Twins Agree to Sign Infielder Ty France

[jud6312]

Just now, Mike Sixel said:

You could likely fit two in your garage. Also, it's not their fault Falvey signed them.....

Agreed. Falvey is and should be the punching bag.

[nicksaviking]

2 minutes ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

The internal young options are sometimes like the back-up QB. Everyone loves them...until they actually start playing. 

Miranda's done enough so that he is somewhat of a known-commodity. I don't think he's going to be glued to the bench because Ty France is on the roster. 

If I'm wrong, so be it.

I don't love too many of the young guys, but when you bring in veterans to be the starting QB and they are clearly Christian Ponder level of starting QB, yeah, just put the back up in.

 

[ashbury]

Guh.  That is all.

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

I don't love too many of the young guys, but when you bring in veterans to be the starting QB and they are clearly Christian Ponder level of starting QB, yeah, just put the back up in.

 

That's an insult to Ponder.....

[sweetmusicviola16]

So we're told all off season that there is no money to spend. But then when the list is mostly picked over we sign the usual veteran retreads. Instead of making a solid impact signing that would have maybe actually made a difference in our talent level. I don't get it. 

[Parfigliano]

33 minutes ago, Brandon said:

The message here is that somebody is definitely going to play 1B.  

Yes

[nicksaviking]

I was never terribly anti-Falvey. I liked that he updated the archaic system the team ran under Terry Ryan and cleared out most of the old-boys-club. I liked using math to solve problems (sorry old schoolers) and that the team changes hitting and pitching approaches every few years to adjust to what was and wasn't working.

But this off season was just bad. I get that the wallet might have been closed until a week ago, but this is a really, really bad look. It seems like a desperate attempt to put low level vets on the team in an effort to pin blame of a disappointing 2025 on them to try to keep his job. His primary job as an architect of a mid-market team was to develop a sustainable core. I'm sure he thinks hiding the young guys behind these scapegoat vets will lessen the impact if they disappoint.

I think he's very wrong though and this is going to be worse for him than having any of the young players fail.

[Parfigliano]

31 minutes ago, Sjoski said:

Roses are red, violets are blue,
Another average signing, its all we do?

Buy a ticket? Not what I'll do,
I've had enough of this déjà vu.

I just bought tiks for when they play DET at Target in April and when they play at TEX in Sept

[Parfigliano]

34 minutes ago, jud6312 said:

Who can help as a right-handed hitting left fielder? France? The guy that's never played a major league inning in the outfield? Or Miranda - the other guy that's never played an inning in the outfield?

Yes

[Linus]

So I’ve been neutral on Falvey appreciating the system upgrades and ability to hire good coaches.  I’ve always felt he has been too rigid in some of his beliefs to adapt and improve.  This signing just gives me the sinking feeling that he is wedded to a process whose ceiling is barely making the playoffs but with no real shot to make a World Series much less win one.  Do I think Miranda is going to be a great hitter?  I doubt it but a good chance he is a decent or better hitter.  We all know what France is and it ain’t putting us over the top.

[chpettit19]

Have the Twins announced that he's here for 1B? He said he was willing to catch this year. Are we sure he's not the Vazquez replacement?

This is sarcasm, don't freak out. He really did say he was willing to catch this year, though.

[Mike Sixel]

5 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I was never terribly anti-Falvey. I liked that he updated the archaic system the team ran under Terry Ryan and cleared out most of the old-boys-club. I liked using math to solve problems (sorry old schoolers) and that the team changes hitting and pitching approaches every few years to adjust to what was and wasn't working.

But this off season was just bad. I get that the wallet might have been closed until a week ago, but this is a really, really bad look. It seems like a desperate attempt to put low level vets on the team in an effort to pin blame of a disappointing 2025 on them to try to keep his job. His primary job as an architect of a mid-market team was to develop a sustainable core. I'm sure he thinks hiding the young guys behind these scapegoat vets will lessen the impact if they disappoint.

I think he's very wrong though and this is going to be worse for him than having any of the young players fail.

Agreed. I was pretty pro Falvey until this last week. But it's a repeat of a strategy that is not sustainable. One that is boring. One that offers no hope for the future, only a floor, very low floor, for the present. I'm done. 

[CRF]

Geez...now they're spending money like a drunken sailor! Well, maybe more like a tipsy deck hand...but Little Joe or Uncle Jim must have given the green light to blow a few bucks.

[Linus]

1 minute ago, CRF said:

Geez...now they're spending money like a drunken sailor! Well, maybe more like a tipsy deck hand...but Little Joe or Uncle Jim must have given the green light to blow a few bucks.

Would have been nice had they did when, you know, good players were available to sign.

[Parfigliano]

29 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Gleeman says it’s a MLB deal so it’s very likely he’ll be the new punching bag for fans. 

Can't wait for games when they run Bader and France out there as starters. 

I know I won't have to wait long.  I fear I'll see it a lot.

[AceWrigley]

4 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Have the Twins announced that he's here for 1B? He said he was willing to catch this year. Are we sure he's not the Vazquez replacement?

This is sarcasm, don't freak out. He really did say he was willing to catch this year, though.

 

[sweetmusicviola16]

4 minutes ago, CRF said:

Geez...now they're spending money like a drunken sailor! Well, maybe more like a tipsy deck hand...but Little Joe or Uncle Jim must have given the green light to blow a few bucks.

I think blowing is an apt way to put this spending spree.

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, Parfigliano said:

Can't wait for games when they run Bader and France out there as starters. 

I know I won't have to wait long.  I fear I'll see it a lot.

And Vazquez. 

[howeda7]

2 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Can't wait for games when they run Bader and France out there as starters. 

I know I won't have to wait long.  I fear I'll see it a lot.

I most look forward to the games where Bader pinch-hits for Wallner in the 2nd inning because the other team used a RH opener and  then brought in a lefty.

[DJL44]

This is one of those signings that is low upside, high downside. France was available last season for league minimum off the waiver wire. There is no reason to give him a guaranteed contract. I think I'd rather give Mickey Gasper the playing time.

Really hoping he gets cut before the season begins.

[howeda7]

6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Agreed. I was pretty pro Falvey until this last week. But it's a repeat of a strategy that is not sustainable. One that is boring. One that offers no hope for the future, only a floor, very low floor, for the present. I'm done. 

I'm no fan of Falvey, but this being the straw that broke the camel's back seems odd. What could he have done differently only in the last week that would make you feel better?

[Charleo]

I continue to be confused as to why folks are blaming Falvey.    If your boss gave you $20 to buy your whole office lunch, you'd have to buy $20 worth of crap to stretch the money.   Is that your fault or your Bosses fault?    It's not like Falvey is looking at Pete Alonso and Ty France and going, "Yep, Ty is the better player."     France is a $.25 hotdog in this analogy.  Continue to blame the owners, even if they are selling.  They have billions.  Billions.  They'd prefer to save it and feed us Ty France.

[sweetmusicviola16]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

And Vazquez. 

Oh boy. Along with whatever regular happens to be struggling at the time too.

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, howeda7 said:

I'm no fan of Falvey, but this being the straw that broke the camel's back seems odd. What could he have done differently only in the last week that would make you feel better?

Not sign bad players. Trust the system filled with his players and coaches. If they can't beat France, his system sucks and he should resign. 

[NYCTK]

2 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

I'm no fan of Falvey, but this being the straw that broke the camel's back seems odd. What could he have done differently only in the last week that would make you feel better?

Especially when one of the singings was objectively good...

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, Charleo said:

I continue to be confused as to why folks are blaming Falvey.    If your boss gave you $20 to buy your whole office lunch, you'd have to buy $20 worth of crap to stretch the money.   Is that your fault or your Bosses fault?    It's not like Falvey is looking at Pete Alonso and Ty France and going, "Yep, Ty is the better player."     France is a $.25 hotdog in this analogy.  Continue to blame the owners, even if they are selling.  They have billions.  Billions.  They'd prefer to save it and feed us Ty France.

He's picking France over Miranda and other internal options, options his organization drafted and coached. 

[howeda7]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

Not sign bad players. Trust the system filled with his players and coaches. If they can't beat France, his system sucks and he should resign. 

These are the fringe players of the roster. They had obvious needs for a LH reliever, 1B and back-up OF'er. They filled them. All three are "meh" signings but none of them are robbing roster spots from anyone meaningful.

[CRF]

5 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

I most look forward to the games where Bader pinch-hits for Wallner in the 2nd inning because the other team used a RH opener and  then brought in a lefty.

Otherwise known as "Rocco-Ball"!

[howeda7]

2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

He's picking France over Miranda and other internal options, options his organization drafted and coached. 

I assume Miranda will still be on the team and play against all LH starters. Either at 1B, 3B or DH. Julien is the one out in this scenario unless he wins the 2B job over Brooks Lee.

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, howeda7 said:

I assume Miranda will still be on the team and play against all LH starters. Either at 1B, 3B or DH. Julien is the one out in this scenario unless he wins the 2B job over Brooks Lee.

So, one fourth of the time, while France plays 75 percent? You're making my point.