Game Thread: Twins of Minnesota @ Guardians of Ohio, 6/29/22, 6:10PM CDT (4:10PM PDT)

[tony&rodney]

These two teams are really going at it.

Couple of notes: 1. Why have pitchers on the team that you cannot use such as Thornburg or Duffey? Pagan was slated to be released by San Diego and we stole him along with an injured guy who had some potential three years ago. Pagan needs to see time in the early innings, this is well documented by now even if the faith in him seems laudable. 2. The Twins need a real catcher. After relief pitching, this is the biggest hole for this team. Anyone who ever pitched at a decent level understands the importance of having confidence in your catcher. Sometimes a pitcher has to bury one in the dirt. The Twins pitchers do not have that option. 

Hopefully, the bats come out furious at Bieber tomorrow. 

There have been some tough losses this year and the team still is sitting in a decent position.

[lukeduke1980]

Thornburg was pretty fresh wasn't he?  

[IndyTwinsFan]

6 minutes ago, Nashvilletwin said:

9/16 in save attempts. How about tomorrow?

You mean Rocco, in all his infinite wisdom (??), decides to approach the next similar situation?

I can hardly wait. 

[RpR]

Cleveland (any good team) simply knows how Baldelli operates and know they can beat him late in the game.

[Aggies7]

2 minutes ago, lukeduke1980 said:

Thornburg was pretty fresh wasn't he?  

Hasn’t pitched since Saturday, I believe. Rocco is lucky he manages in minnesota and not the east coast or he’d be toast. Put anyone else in. Anyone. If it fails it fails 

2 minutes ago, lukeduke1980 said:

Thornburg was pretty fresh wasn't he?  

 

[RpR]

Twins are returning to last years form, cannot win extra inning game. (The asinine free runner rule should be eliminated.)

[Rosterman]

If you have a three run lead and aren't comfortable using Thornburg, WHY is he even on the team?

[qljohnson]

Absolutely disgusting loss!!!! So sick of watching our bullpen blow very nice leads only to loose games.....honestly....it's hard to loose the way we are... HELLOOOOO....ANYONE THERE IN THE FRONT OFFICE.....let's get on the phone and pick up a damn closer and maybe a decent bullpen arm or 2....this team is a competitive team....give them the tools to succeed....

[Vanimal46]

Missed the game tonight. Hot take: Pagan should probably take a break from pitching against Cleveland. 

[Vanimal46]

Double post. 

[terrydactyls]

The Twins should be trying to sweep the series tomorrow and put Cleveland out to pasture.  Instead, two blown games and they are facing Cleveland's best pitcher tomorrow.  The front office should be on their phones right now trying to find two or three relief pitchers that can hold a lead.  Don't wait a month for the trade deadline.  Make some moves right now.

[sampleSizeOfOne]

43 minutes ago, h2oface said:

AND..... we are paying him!!! And we just get Pagan for the year. Horrible trade. 

I thought we got Pagan for like, 3 years.

(I suppose that may not make you feel any better)

[SockNet]

6 minutes ago, terrydactyls said:

The Twins should be trying to sweep the series tomorrow and put Cleveland out to pasture.  Instead, two blown games and they are facing Cleveland's best pitcher tomorrow.  The front office should be on their phones right now trying to find two or three relief pitchers that can hold a lead.  Don't wait a month for the trade deadline.  Make some moves right now.

They should be on the phone looking for a new job. 

[Twodogs]

1 hour ago, Rik19753 said:

This is just the Twins mentality. They can't win important or close games. I don't even need to see the playoffs to know that they are going to fail again this year, even if they make it.

 

Just sell Correa now. 

I think Correa is probably one of the most clutch Twin there is.

[Twodogs]

1 hour ago, LewFordLives said:

They had a bullpen issue even before they traded Taylor Rogers. The genius front office thinks they can just patch it together on the fly like they always do. It never works.

I'm sure some computer program told the computer geeks that the bullpen wouldn't be that much different with Pagan as with Rogers.

[twins_89]

Pagan is single handedly keeping the Indians in the AL central race.

[Aggies7]

2 minutes ago, twins_89 said:

Pagan is single handedly keeping the Indians in the AL central race.

Seriously, it would have been so nice to get some breathing room after all these games. It feels like the twins are so much better than Cleveland but here we are only 2 games ahead and it’s July 1 on Friday 

[Einheri]

I'd DFA at least two of Pagán, Duffy, and Cotton.
I'd rather put an untested-at-the-major-league-level rookie in there.  At least if they screw up, I'd have some hope for later improvement from the experience.

[Einheri]

8 minutes ago, Twodogs said:

I'm sure some computer program told the computer geeks that the bullpen wouldn't be that much different with Pagan as with Rogers.

I'd be fine with the trade though if Paddack had been healthy.

[Halsey Hall]

I was listening on the radio driving home thru a thunder storm when Kepler hit it out.  Announcers said pagan warming in the pen, I swear my Noooooooo could be heard hundreds of miles away.  Rained so hard I pulled over in a rest stop, lost radio with all the lightning so checked my phone.  No surprise idiot Baldelli gave another game away.

[SwainZag]

One question I want to ask is, why did they pitch to Naylor?  The winning run is on 2nd, 1st base is open, and Naylor is a much better hitter than Reyes.  

[ashbury]

1 hour ago, LewFordLives said:

Taylor Rogers has 22 saves. Just saying...

He just got touched up last night for a blown save in the 8th and the loss in the 9th.

[ashbury]

24 minutes ago, Einheri said:

I'd be fine with the trade though if Paddack had been healthy.

If Paddack had been healthy he would have cost a lot more.  He had missed time due to the elbow and it was a known risk.

Hated that trade the moment it was announced.

[a-wan]

Dislike having Pagan pitch, but if Duffey starts the inning and blows it we’d be complaining about that. Thus the issue of a craptastic bullpen bites again.

[CRF]

Wow. Pagan is just killing us. I'd be 100% fine with cutting him loose right now. Please take Cotton too. ANYONE else would be better than those two. 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

3 hours ago, a-wan said:

Dislike having Pagan pitch, but if Duffey starts the inning and blows it we’d be complaining about that. Thus the issue of a craptastic bullpen bites again.

This! And why is Thornburg even on the roster?