David HK Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 I vote yes. When? Tomorrow? Or today?
alarp33 Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 If my option was Guillen or Molitor, I would take Guillen. But there will be other options this Fall I would probably prefer if the Twins clean house
spinowner Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Many people have wanted to replace the Twins' front office and field personnel with someone who is up to speed with the modern game. Guillen is about as old-school as you can get. Also, as good of a baseball man as he probably is, he nevertheless gives me the impression that he's a bit off his rocker.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Many people have wanted to replace the Twins' front office and field personnel with someone who is up to speed with the modern game. Guillen is about as old-school as you can get. Also, as good of a baseball man as he probably is, he nevertheless gives me the impression that he's a bit off his rocker.So Molly was the best choice ever for a modern game manager. Right? I would probably agree that he deserved an opportunity, a chance. Defining management field staff is something I'd like someone more knowledgable than I to undertake and share. Anyone?
dgwills Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Tough one. He is entertaining, but is also a bit crazy. I guess someone could convince me either way.
spinowner Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Many people have wanted to replace the Twins' front office and field personnel with someone who is up to speed with the modern game. Guillen is about as old-school as you can get. Also, as good of a baseball man as he probably is, he nevertheless gives me the impression that he's a bit off his rocker. So Molly was the best choice ever for a modern game manager. Right? I would probably agree that he deserved an opportunity, a chance. Defining management field staff is something I'd like someone more knowledgable than I to undertake and share. Anyone?I should be clear that I'm not advocating for or against the modern-game-advanced-metrics-etc approach. I'm just saying that those who want the Twins to take that approach should not look at Guillen as a possible manager.
Loosey Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 If my option was Guillen or Molitor, I would take Guillen. But there will be other options this Fall I would probably prefer if the Twins clean houseIf my option was only Guillen or Molitor I would be upset.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Many people have wanted to replace the Twins' front office and field personnel with someone who is up to speed with the modern game. Guillen is about as old-school as you can get. Also, as good of a baseball man as he probably is, he nevertheless gives me the impression that he's a bit off his rocker. And stubborn as hell. I'm not at all in favor of someone "set in their ways".
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Thoughts? I can't think of one reason why this would be a good idea?
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Thoughts? I can't think of one reason why this would be a good idea?He's not Molitor. I'll agree in advance that that isn't a very good reason.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Thoughts? I really hope you're trolling? I'd pass on Guillen. I want a Joe Maddon type. Someone good at bring talent along and patient enough to work with it. That's what we need. I don't see Guillen as that.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 He's not Molitor. I'll agree in advance that that isn't a very good reason.Good manager, won a title, speaks Spanish (think of how many spanish first speaking key players the Twins will have on the roster the next few years) takes the pressure off his players etc. Everyone wants a Joe Maddon type, but there aren't a whole lot of Joe Maddon's out there.Dave Martinez would be a great choice as well though.
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Good manager, won a title, speaks Spanish (think of how many spanish first speaking key players the Twins will have on the roster the next few years) takes the pressure off his players etc. Everyone wants a Joe Maddon type, but there aren't a whole lot of Joe Maddon's out there.Dave Martinez would be a great choice as well though.I do like Guillen for a variety of reasons actually baseball related, but I don't think he's the right fit. If I can't have Joe Maddon, Dave Martinez is probably the next choice for me as well.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 True, Guillen would carry some risk. If I were GM I would fire Molitor if the Twins don't win this next series, and then go out and hire Guillen as the interim manager. If he turns it around then the next GM can decide if he wants to keep him or not. IMO Molitor has already lost te clubhouse.
alarp33 Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Raul Ibanez. What are his qualifications? He played baseball?
Hrbowski Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 What are his qualifications? He played baseball?One of the smartest baseball players ever. Understands playing as a starter, bench player, and both traditional and modern areas of the game. He also is a great media guy.
alarp33 Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 One of the smartest baseball players ever. Understands playing as a starter, bench player, and both traditional and modern areas of the game. He also is a great media guy. Ok that's why I thought. No real qualifications
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Ok that's why I thought. No real qualificationsProbably at least as good as any of our qualifications for making this call. Wait, we did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Steve Penz Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 While working for a Miami-based organization he praised Fidel Castro. Supreme failure of the stupid test. Please, No.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 FTFY Um, no fixing was necessary.
Major League Ready Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 While working for a Miami-based organization he praised Fidel Castro. Supreme failure of the stupid test. Please, No. One of many demonstrations of poor judgment. I would not give him 10 seconds of consideration.
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Thoughts?Other than Ozzie was fired from the Miami Marlins because of his continued praise for Fidel Castro? Nope, no thoughts here.
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Raul Ibanez.Interesting name. Why? Just a quick look, all I could find was "now servicing as special advisor to Los Angeles Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman". Still, would be nice to have insite from a guy that's worked for that size of an organization. And the Dodger must have seen something in him... Oops, did read all of the thread. IGNORE!!
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