Doctor Wu Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 How can I purchase a Nippon-Ham Fighters baseball cap? I love that name!
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 It's too bad they couldn't trade Tonkin for Otani straight up Good for Tonkin. He'll get a pay raise, and no longer have to worry about being shipped to AAA or DFA'd.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Nice move for all involved. Good luck to Tonkin.
Halsey Hall Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Been there, it's ok. Tonkin will certainly be the tall man on the street.
sthpstm Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I thinks it a great move for him, and the Twins. How interesting that 5 teams there were interested in acquiring him. It seems like he should be very effective in that league. I'm on board with a hat purchase as well - it is a great name!
tvagle Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 It's too bad they couldn't trade Tonkin for Otani straight up Good for Tonkin. He'll get a pay raise, and no longer have to worry about being shipped to AAA or DFA'd. This is just the first move that makes Falvine the leading candidates for Front Office of the Year next year It's no coincidence that the Twins negotiated this deal with the Ham Fighters Next you will see Vargas sold to them for 20 roundtrip tickets from MSP to HNA Then Yu know what's next and finally Some Helpful Outsider, Happily Ending Inefficient Outcomes of a Twins Ace Near Indefinitely
The Wise One Verified Member Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 Tonkin will turn 28 before the start of the next season. He was drafted out of college. He might have 2 years of service time in. He really hasn't had a big payday at any point in his career. To earn a lifetime's money from baseball he will have to go to Japan. It may or may not be to his liking, but you have to do what you have to do. He really does not have much for options. He could not get a spot in one of the worst bullpens in the league. He has to go to Japan or not have money.
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 I think the Twins retain the rights for him to be re-rostered if he is cut from the team at any time during the run of the contract...then have to decide to re-add to 40-man or jsut cut ties. After the two seasons, Tonkin is free. Of course, if the Twins never want him abck, he is also free. So, in a sense, you stash a player with a foreign team but still retain some rights.So he is sort of an indentured servant?
James Verified Member Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 How can I purchase a Nippon-Ham Fighters baseball cap? I love that name!https://shop.fighters.co.jp/shopping/ You don't have to stop at the hat. They have fleece fanny packs as well!
GP830 Verified Member Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 I was wondering if the fact that it was the Ham Fighters was a coincidence or not, as speculated above. There's obviously now a pre-existing relationship that could prove beneficial.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 Gets the 40-man roster down to 33. Gives them room to add 6 players while retaining an open spot for the Rule 5 draft. Or will they add 7 and make another move if they want to participate in the Rule 5 draft? Several other candidates to be removed when they sign a couple free agents. Thinking of Boshers, Enns and what to do with Phil Hughes? Or will they strengthen the club via the trade route? Will they add Seth's top 4 plus 2, or 3, of the next group of 4? Will still be some difficult decisions while leaving a few good players exposed to the draft. Doesn't seem likely that adding a player via rule 5 is something the Twins would try. If 2017 showed the Twins brass nothing else it is that you can't hide a rule 5 guy if you are trying to contend.
zenser Verified Member Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 Doesn't seem likely that adding a player via rule 5 is something the Twins would try. If 2017 showed the Twins brass nothing else it is that you can't hide a rule 5 guy if you are trying to contend.I would agree with this. There are plenty of arms that you could just protect and add to the 40 man that would be just as capable as the guy you are trying to hide. I am thinking along the lines of Burdi or Bard types.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 I was wondering if the fact that it was the Ham Fighters was a coincidence or not, as speculated above. There's obviously now a pre-existing relationship that could prove beneficial. I mean as long as Tonkin doesn't face live batters prior to the Twins getting Otani. Kidding of course. I think Tonkin will do quite well over there and be one of those returning vets that turns heads back inthe states once his Ham Fighters contract is over.
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 Great opportunity for Tonkin - he got a good shot here and did not make it. He has talent and I think he will do well in Japan.
gil4 Verified Member Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 Yeah, well ... I guess I wouldn’t move there, not even for that amount. But I didn’t know how it worked. You wouldn't move to Japan for a couple years for $2 mill? Really only two half years. Sign me up! I've never been and I spend most of my 24 years in the AF avoiding PACAF (especially Korea), but they weren't offering me that kind of money. I did manage to spend 11 years in England, Belgium, and Germany, so I'm sure I could adapt. Chicago, on the other hand... (ducking)
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted November 10, 2017 Author Posted November 10, 2017 Tonkin will turn 28 before the start of the next season. He was drafted out of college. He might have 2 years of service time in. He really hasn't had a big payday at any point in his career. To earn a lifetime's money from baseball he will have to go to Japan. It may or may not be to his liking, but you have to do what you have to do. He really does not have much for options. He could not get a spot in one of the worst bullpens in the league. He has to go to Japan or not have money. Tonkin was drafted out of high school.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 Not that it matters, but Tonkin will be playing for the "Fighters," not the "Ham Fighters." The team is owned by Nippon Ham.
tvagle Verified Member Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 Not that it matters, but Tonkin will be playing for the "Fighters," not the "Ham Fighters." The team is owned by Nippon Ham. AHA...makes more sense to me now...I was struggling with the images of a dude(s) fighting with a ham or a dude(s) having a fight with ham Thanks for the clarification
The Wise One Verified Member Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Tonkin was drafted out of high school. I forgot to put that in there. It really does limit his options in life. Bless him for having the conviction that he was going to make it as a pro. He has made it, but not well enough for financial independence. He might have a good enough financial planner, but I do not think a 30 round pick gets a big bonus. I think he has at least 2 years of service time in.
The Wise One Verified Member Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 AHA...makes more sense to me now...I was struggling with the images of a dude(s) fighting with a ham or a dude(s) having a fight with ham Thanks for the clarificationMaybe they were fighting over the ham as there was not enough for everyone. The choice between Black Forrest or Virginia got ugly
ahart10 Verified Member Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 I wonder if this trade might get our foot in the door for Ohtani.
ashbury Verified Member Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Not that it matters, but Tonkin will be playing for the "Fighters," not the "Ham Fighters." The team is owned by Nippon Ham.So says the US Air "Force Chief". signed,Ash bury-john
snepp Verified Member Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 http://www.southernfoodways.org/app/uploads/ham-spot-1-300x192.png
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