You’re not a GM. You Shouldn’t Want to Trade Ryan Jeffers.

[Cory Engelhardt]

I love Ryan Jeffers. He may be our best hitter. I certainly don’t want him gone. I would love him to be on the team from now through at least until Lackey is ready, or probably through 2028 at least as there may not be a full season or any season in 2027.

I also love roster building as a thought experiment, and the idea of not doing anything this trade deadline gives me cold sweats. They have to make improvements if they want to try, and they have to tear down if they aren’t going for it. Staying in the middle is not an option in my opinion.

Anyway, if they are going for it, I’d much prefer keeping him for the last 2 months and letting him walk to taking a minimal return. If he is traded it had better be a large return.

How’s that for speaking out of both sides of my mouth?

[Craig Arko]

So if I was a GM he’s out the door? Okay, I remember who actually makes these decisions. 

[Brandon]

5 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

This is what the Angels continue to do over and over. How’s that been working out for them? 

The Angels get stars and no depth.  Their farm is not good either.  That is their problem.  They always start good, then an injury and they are done.  Because they have no depth to cover for the injured player.  

[1985Fan]

15 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

You, like the author, confuse wanting to see certain moves made with not enjoying the games we're watching. I can do both. Wanting them to trade Jeffers and Ryan doesn't make me sit in my living room and hate every second of watching them. It doesn't make me not watch. What makes me not enjoy this season to any great extreme is that this team has been at (not above, AT) .500 for 1 day since April when they were 12-12. 

I enjoy or don't enjoy each and every game on its own merits. My desire to see Ryan and Jeffers traded plays no role in that. My desire to not see yet another below .500 team in 2027 is what drives my desire to see moves made. 

You're going to struggle to find many people who are upset with you enjoying this team. All some of us are asking is that you not tell us that we can't enjoy this, or any, team unless we want to keep 100% of the players on it. As another poster said, I contain multitudes. I can enjoy games, the team, and even the season while still wanting them to trade Ryan and Jeffers. I'm sorry if some of you can only enjoy any individual part of those options if you want to keep Ryan Jeffers. The Pohlads love you, though.

Didn’t tell you anything. I posted an opinion you don’t like. Ok, I understand your side of the argument. I get it, you don’t like my opinion. Don’t take it personally and overreact! 

[Brandon]

I've got the solution that makes everyone happy.  We trade Jeffers at the trade deadline as a plyer to be named later so we can continue playing him until we announce the player to be named later after the season.  Every body wins, we keep him until after the season and keep playing him 

[Nashvilletwin]

Hard to believe Falvey turned down that deal from the Bosox for Ryan last deadline: a high quality no worse than a #2 or #3 left handed young starter and the #7 overall prospect 20 year old .

No wonder he was fired.   What a joke.  

[DJL44]

We are seeing parity like I can’t remember in baseball. The floor level of MLB talent is probably at an all-time peak. In an NFL analogy, we have the entire league between 4-6 and 6-4 with 6 games left to play. It is very hard to separate from the pack.

The Twins are likely to win somewhere between 23 and 32 of their remaining 56 games. That makes them finish with 75 to 84 wins. Any trade deadline additions are only likely to sway that by 1-3 wins. That’s why it makes little sense to spend young talent to buy at the deadline.

Selling Jeffers might cost them 1-2 wins in 2026 but could add them 5-10 wins over the next 5 seasons.

[chpettit19]

7 minutes ago, 1985Fan said:

Didn’t tell you anything. I posted an opinion you don’t like. Ok, I understand your side of the argument. I get it, you don’t like my opinion. Don’t take it personally and overreact! 

"I think there is a large group of baseball fans into the arm chair GM game more so than watching the current team. Call it looking at what could be instead of what is. Nothing wrong with that except I think they miss out on the good baseball in front of them."

Here's the thing about this comment that you made in the other post. It isn't an argument. I don't have a "side of the argument." Because it isn't one. Your "opinion" was a comment on how other people think and feel. There's nothing to like or dislike about the opinion itself. It's either right or wrong. And I'm telling you, for many of us in the group you describe, you're wrong. You don't get to argue about how I, or anyone, enjoys the Twins or anything else. 

That's the issue with the comment like "they miss out on the good baseball in front of them" and the article in general. You don't know how anyone enjoys the baseball in front of them. The author doesn't know how any of us enjoy the Twins. All the article is is a complaint that he has to see tweets or posts or whatever that differ from his and he says we're all wrong if we don't just think the way he does. Author has the real simple option of just not taking money from twinsdaily.com to write articles and to change his social media interactions. And you both have the real simple option of simply not worrying about how any of us enjoy the Twins.

The article and the clipped part of your other comment aren't arguments about trading Jeffers or Ryan or extending Buxton or drafting Lackey or anything else. They're statements telling other people how to live their lives, think, or feel. You can't tell me I'm wrong for how I go about being a fan. Just like the author can't. Nothing to argue about because you don't get to tell anyone what they enjoy and what they don't. Just like none of us get to tell you you can only enjoy the Twins if you enjoy them the way we do.

[Andy MacPhail]

So, Greg, are you telling me that as a fan, I shouldn't want Jeffers to be traded but maybe if I was a GM, I should?

I've seen too many players who loved being a Twin & wanted to remain a Twin, get traded. I'd like Jeffers to remain a Twin & IMO, Jeffers likes being a Twin but him choosing Boras as his agent, he's OK with not being a Twin. So, I'm OK with trading him. If that means picking up a good young MLB-ready catcher with options, to cover for Caratini & Jackson, so be it. Or maybe Cardenas steps up to become the teams' 3rd catcher.

[Woof Bronzer]

Ah yes, shaming anyone who disagrees with you, the last refuge of the angry, arrogant, or unpersuasive writer. 

Seriously question for the writer:  Why do you care so passionately about the opinions other people hold? 

[bean5302]

Jeffers is an average starting catcher, which is definitely a solid asset, but he's not a cornerstone for a mid market team.

Since 2021, of catchers with 1500+ plate appearances, Ryan Jeffers ranks 9th. Distantly behind the tier above him.

I will never understand the desperate Twins fan who will do anything and everything to hang on to a name they recognize until every last bit of playable baseball has left their career behind.

[darin617]

I never wasted 2 seconds on this crap post. 

You trade a player at his peak value especially when he will be a free agent and he will command a huge contract going forward.

[TopGunn#22]

Sorry Gregg.  I choose NOT to live in your utopian fandom.  There is not a reality where Ryan Jeffers is a Minnesota Twin in 2027.

There just isn't. 

It's not that I have an irrational dislike for Jeffers.  I actually like him, and drafted him for my fantasy baseball team.  (so in a way...I  AM  a  GM)!!    :)  

The irresponsible thing to do as a "GM" is to just let him walk and fail to capitalize on his value and add something back that helps the ballclub. 

So I 2nd what rdehring wrote and rest my case.   

[Greggory Masterson]

1 hour ago, Andy MacPhail said:

So, Greg, are you telling me that as a fan, I shouldn't want Jeffers to be traded but maybe if I was a GM, I should?

Yes, precisely. There's nothing wrong in and of itself with putting on your GM hat as a fan. But when you get to the point where your favorite team is in position to make a playoff push, and your thought is that they should try to make themselves worse mid-season, I think you've lost sight of something.

 

54 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

I will never understand the desperate Twins fan who will do anything and everything to hang on to a name they recognize until every last bit of playable baseball has left their career behind.

I'm not against trading Jeffers by any means. I have no personal attachment to him. If they trade him, I'll understand the reasoning and hope that they get good value for him. It might be the smartest thing to do at the deadline. But fans shouldn't be clamoring for it to happen.

39 minutes ago, darin617 said:

I never wasted 2 seconds on this crap post. 

You trade a player at his peak value especially when he will be a free agent and he will command a huge contract going forward.

This is a lot of words to type in under two seconds; good on ya.

 

1 hour ago, Woof Bronzer said:

Ah yes, shaming anyone who disagrees with you, the last refuge of the angry, arrogant, or unpersuasive writer. 

Seriously question for the writer:  Why do you care so passionately about the opinions other people hold? 

Shaming?

To answer your question: why can't a man care for his fellow man? I want the best for everyone.