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Interesting list because it really is a look at where the Twins roster stands for 2026.  Ryan should be back, but probably traded.  Jeffers has leverage unless we think Perada is going to blossom into a star of Vasquez is going to sign for $1m and suddenly find the fountain of youth.

Otherwise they are all replaceable at this point.  Lewis and Ober are the most interesting and Thielbar's ascendency with the Cubs shows how dangerous it is to give up too soon. 

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16 minutes ago, jorgenswest said:

Didn’t they get the Marlins version of Gordon? Okert had not pitched well in 2023 but the Marlins took him to arbitration hoping to trade him for a living breathing human. They found Gordon. Neither performed well and both remained on the roster for nearly all of the season. Both teams lost this deal and would have been better served with a player from their organization or a minor league signing in the roster. If anything the Marlins won the deal because Gordon’s arb salary was less than Okert’s arb salary. 

Okert was not good, agreed, but I didn’t even think they could get $5 for Gordon and they technically got more than that. So my point was, if they could get something for Gordon they should easily be able to get something for Larnach who is a way better player. 

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2 hours ago, Twins33 said:

I know the arb numbers aren’t the same, but if the Twins can get a living, breathing human for Nick Gordon than I believe they absolutely can get one for Larnach who is at least two times the player Gordon is/was. 

Who on the Marlins do we want for Trevor?  Because they might be the only franchise who thinks he's even worth trading for - wait, they fired the GM who traded for Nick Gordon, they might not be a viable trading partner either anymore.

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11 hours ago, Blyleven2011 said:

The article  started out as the front office has their work cut out for them ....

I wish it was a different FO  , manager and owner , but I never get what I ask for at Christmas but it doesn't hurt to start asking early ...

I hope that changes for you always get what you want for Christmas.

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12 hours ago, Blyleven2011 said:

The article  started out as the front office has their work cut out for them ....

I wish it was a different FO  , manager and owner , but I never get what I ask for at Christmas but it doesn't hurt to start asking early ...

Probably, too many of us have been bad boys, so we've gotten coal in our stockings the last couple of years. We'd better shape up.

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The purge on this list is going to be sizeable... we have a  lot of guys they may want to protect, that are not on the 40 and are going to be Rule 5 eligible ...

Morris, Gonzalez, CJ Culpepper, Cory Lewis, Rojas, Mendez ... 

Some worth protecting, some probably not.

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15 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

Julien went back down to AAA and started hitting again. Miranda went down to AAA and has been dreadful. Why would you reward Miranda with more MLB time when he can't touch AAA pitching?

but what to do with Miranda is a tough one: he's been brutally bad this season. But showed promise in 2024, including real defensive improvement.

I don't think it's a tough call at all on Miranda.  His career has cratered with the Twins.  He has no value to the organization and he is holding a 40 man roster spot that would be better utilized elsewhere.  Let him go.  Perhaps he can re-establish his career elsewhere.

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1 hour ago, Peter Gravett said:

The purge on this list is going to be sizeable... we have a  lot of guys they may want to protect, that are not on the 40 and are going to be Rule 5 eligible ...

Morris, Gonzalez, CJ Culpepper, Cory Lewis, Rojas, Mendez ... 

Some worth protecting, some probably not.

Easy choice to protect everyone on that list except for maybe Mendez (if you wanted to risk trying to slip him through, since he's still at AA); even Cory Lewis would get grabbed by someone who would stash him in the bullpen and see if they can make it work. But there's 8 easy cuts off the 40-man and probably more like 10, plus we are only actually carrying 39 right now. Which says something about where the roster is...

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Larnarch is a former first round pick.  I think he hit just enough to get arbitration.  The question with him is will the Twins trade him.  Also how low will payroll go next season.  90 million he can stay at 60 million he can’t.

Tonkin should be offered a contract.  Something like 1 million - 1.2 million and he either resigns or is nontendered.  We have no bullpen at this point and having a member locked in at a little over league minimum is fine.  
 

I suppose you offer Misiewicz an 800-850 k contract.  I don’t think he deserves a spot like this.  I would contender him and Hatch.

Ober is the real question mark.  If the Twins think he will be better next season then offer.  I guess a trade is possible too.  I’m sure they will offer him arbitration but the Twins have been scaling back on costs and I don’t know if they are working their way down to a 90 million or 60 million payroll for next season.

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2 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

Easy choice to protect everyone on that list except for maybe Mendez (if you wanted to risk trying to slip him through, since he's still at AA); even Cory Lewis would get grabbed by someone who would stash him in the bullpen and see if they can make it work. But there's 8 easy cuts off the 40-man and probably more like 10, plus we are only actually carrying 39 right now. Which says something about where the roster is...

Yeah, Cory Lewis is an interesting one - an off year for him, but still such a high ceiling. 

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I would move Clemons to the not likely area, or the bubble.  This was by far a career year for him.  In addition he was super streaky, April he was unplayable and DFA to us.  May he was crazy hot, then June he was unplayable.  July he had a few hot stretches.  August he was unplayable, and Sept he got on a couple of hot stretches again.  Overall he is replacement level guy, and outside of a career year in power, in big spots I would agree, he was an end of the lineup hope he can do something bat.  He can be replaced by Martin, or others.  

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They dismantled the BP at the trade deadline and might as well finish the job. Is there really a solid arm left. 

As I have said numerous times Ryan will be traded,because he is not going to waste another year on a last place team.

Ober has the problem of a below average fastball and needs to show a major uptick in that pitch. Someone his size should be able to hit 93 to 95 with ease. That is the only way his off speed pitches play.

We also don't know about the things being said in the clubhouse in regards to Rocco and Falvey. There maybe is a number of players hoping to be moved.

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4 minutes ago, David Maro said:

They dismantled the BP at the trade deadline and might as well finish the job. Is there really a solid arm left. 

As I have said numerous times Ryan will be traded,because he is not going to waste another year on a last place team.

Ober has the problem of a below average fastball and needs to show a major uptick in that pitch. Someone his size should be able to hit 93 to 95 with ease. That is the only way his off speed pitches play.

We also don't know about the things being said in the clubhouse in regards to Rocco and Falvey. There maybe is a number of players hoping to be moved.

Something to think about... big picture,  these soft reboots have yielded underwhelming results.  

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BTV
Ryan +51.8 as of 9/23/25
Ober +26.2 as of 6/26/25
Lewis +25.6 as of 9/23/25
Jeffers +7.5 as of 9/19/25
Clemens +7.1 as of 9/23/25
Larnach +6.0 as of 9/22/25
Sands +5.8 as of 9/11/25

Misiewicz +0.7 as of 6/13/22****
Tonkin +0.4 as of 3/18/25****
Hatch 0.0 as of 12/15/23****
No recent trade proposals. Probably tells you all you need to know about their tender value.

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5 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

Easy choice to protect everyone on that list except for maybe Mendez (if you wanted to risk trying to slip him through, since he's still at AA); even Cory Lewis would get grabbed by someone who would stash him in the bullpen and see if they can make it work. But there's 8 easy cuts off the 40-man and probably more like 10, plus we are only actually carrying 39 right now. Which says something about where the roster is...

I don’t think they would have traded for Mendez if they didn’t intend to protect him…

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2 hours ago, David Maro said:

They dismantled the BP at the trade deadline and might as well finish the job. Is there really a solid arm left. 

As I have said numerous times Ryan will be traded,because he is not going to waste another year on a last place team.

Ober has the problem of a below average fastball and needs to show a major uptick in that pitch. Someone his size should be able to hit 93 to 95 with ease. That is the only way his off speed pitches play.

We also don't know about the things being said in the clubhouse in regards to Rocco and Falvey. There maybe is a number of players hoping to be moved.

Ober has been very successful in past seasons sitting 92. His extension works wonders for perceived velocity. Now, sitting 89 on the other hand…tougher path to success, for sure.

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6 hours ago, Jeff K said:

I don't think it's a tough call at all on Miranda.  His career has cratered with the Twins.  He has no value to the organization and he is holding a 40 man roster spot that would be better utilized elsewhere.  Let him go.  Perhaps he can re-establish his career elsewhere.

Yeah, I think the only scenario he’s in the org next season is if the Twins feel his struggles this season have been injury related. Although, even in that case I don’t know why he wouldn’t be shut down.

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A surprise non-tender could happen due to medical reasons. The biggest possibility of this is Bailey Ober. If there is some chronic ailment that is limiting his velo, the Twins could bid him farewell especially with getting a nice arbitration bump.

BBRef says that Kody Clemens is not eligible for arbitration until 2027. He had 1.134 years of service time coming in to 2025 and may have lost a few days in DFA purgator and the Super 2 threshold changes year to year. Regardless, I think he's done enough to be tendered a contract.

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