Brooks Lee Needs to be in Minneapolis: NOW

[Riverbrian]

8 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

Except for the infamous getaway day game where Farmer played shortstop (both Castro and Correa on the bench) he has started only against left handed pitching. I'm confident that the Twins don't want Lee to be only starting 25-30% of the time if they call him up. Can he outhit both Miranda and Larnach, enough to send them to the bench or St. Paul? I don't think so. Yes, they could DFA Farmer and add Lee, but even with Julien out of the argument, that doesn't provide a full-time spot for Lee IMHO. 

Farmer:

63 AB's vs RH

54 AB's vs LH

 

DH - Larnach/Miranda

C - Jeffers/Vazquez

1B - Miranda/Santana

2B - Lee

3B - Lewis

SS - Correa

LF - Martin and Castro (No Platoon) 

CF - Buxton

RF - Kepler/Margot

Utility - Castro or Martin Fill in everywhere (There will be maintenance days for all) 

With that said... I wouldn't call up Lee at this moment. But... It's easily enough done and it improves the MLB roster in theory. 

If Lee goes Jackson Holiday on his debut. Castro and Martin can both shift to 2B and Wallner can be called up to take LF. 

Lee will get playing time. With that said... I wouldn't call up Lee at this moment.  

 

[DJL44]

34 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Farmer and Margot have both started the last two games since Kepler went down.

Against LHP and the Twins won huge both games partly due to their contributions.

[bean5302]

Farmer's been above average at the plate since late April. How much depends on which date you choose, but anywhere from wRC+ 103 to 128. He's been good, apart from the TOOTBLAN.
Lewis is entrenched at 3B.
Correa is entrenched at SS.
Castro, Farmer, Martin, can all play 2B, plus Julien (who is on 40 man, unlike Lee)

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[lecroy24fan]

I don't think it is a good idea to call up Lee to play him at 2B until he's played 10 or so games there. Let him get comfortable there. It's a moot point if there is an injury in that time. Margot is now playing to his expected level (as long as he doesn't PH.) Farmer's been solid for a few weeks. I don't see this as being a need to call him up at this tme. He should play close to everyday and likely won't see that with the Twins right now. However next IF injury I'd probably go with him. Even if it's Miranda or Santana I'd be fine with Lee being the primary DH for a stretch. Who plays 1B when the non-injured one needs a day off I'm not sure. 

Definitely not in the he's not ready camp. He probably is but like I said in no way should he sit on the bench more than he plays.

[RpR]

1 hour ago, Riverbrian said:

Exactly

It's a 13 man roster. There is no reason to expect him to better than our best to justify a call up.

To justify a call up for Lee or anyone from AAA. That player simply needs to be better than the bottom of the major league roster. Right now... statistically... it's Kyle Farmer at the bottom. 

I don't understand the thinking that Brooks Lee won't play unless Lewis or Correa yield the playing time. Willi Castro and Carlos Santana are everyday players on this team... they can yield playing time. Brooks Lee can be worked in... easy peasy.   

 

Play where?

2nd base?

He has played a WHOLE 2 games at second in the Minor, suggesting putting him there is rather obtuse but then he might be the next Blankenhorn there .🤢

 

[Riverbrian]

36 minutes ago, RpR said:

Play where?

2nd base?

He has play a WHOLE 2 games at second in the Minor, suggesting putting him there is rather obtuse but then he might be the next Blankenhorn there .🤢

 

That's the 2nd time you've used "obtuse" today. 

Did you learn a new word? 

[RpR]

2 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

That's the 2nd time you've used "obtuse" today. 

Did you learn a new word? 

Look it up if you do not know what it means.

[Riverbrian]

2 minutes ago, RpR said:

Look it up if you do not know what it means.

1. not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull.

   Synonyms: unobservant, dim, slow, boorish, gauche, imperceptive, blind, insensitive, tactless, unfeeling

2. not sharp, acute, or pointed; blunt in form.
3. (of a leaf, petal, etc.) rounded at the extremity.
4. indistinctly felt or perceived, as pain or sound.

[mnfireman]

18 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

That's the 2nd time you've used "obtuse" today. 

Did you learn a new word? 

He's just Shawshanking you...

[Riverbrian]

21 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

He's just Shawshanking you...

If I'm being Shawshanked... Does that make me one of the screws? 

Do I have to buy beer for everyone cuz RPR is doing my financial planning?

[Craig Arko]

36 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

1. not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull.

   Synonyms: unobservant, dim, slow, boorish, gauche, imperceptive, blind, insensitive, tactless, unfeeling

2. not sharp, acute, or pointed; blunt in form.
3. (of a leaf, petal, etc.) rounded at the extremity.
4. indistinctly felt or perceived, as pain or sound.

I’m most comfortable with the meaning in geometry: an angle more than ninety degrees and less than one-eighty. Your number 2 comes closest.

[Riverbrian]

2 minutes ago, Craig Arko said:

I’m most comfortable with the meaning in geometry: an angle more than ninety degrees and less than one-eighty. Your number 2 comes closest.

I'm not comfortable with anything in Geometry. But... I'll tell you this much...

When it comes to Donuts. Obtuse is my favorite shape. 

[Ghost of Kirby Puckett]

3 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Farmer barely plays now that Lewis is on the team. Then there's the option of promoting Julien to take 2B instead of Lee. I'm not certain that promoting Brooks Lee makes the Twins noticeably better. He would need to post an OPS+ better than 110 or he'd be hurting the offense. His defense will take some work at 2B. The Twins infield is quite good already. Moving Castro to LF bumps Larnach or Miranda to the bench and they're both hitting pretty well.

All good problems to have. I smell a trade in about a month. 

[RpR]

29 minutes ago, Ghost of Kirby Puckett said:

All good problems to have. I smell a trade in about a month. 

 

30 minutes ago, Ghost of Kirby Puckett said:

All good problems to have. I smell a trade in about a month. 

Where are they sending Lee?

[Rod Carews Birthday]

7 hours ago, bighat said:

Yes. Slow and conservative. The Twins would prefer to let a once-in-a-lifetime talent rot in the musty, dank doldrums of backwater stadiums rather than give the kid a chance. Infuriating. 

Are you Brooks Lee’s mom?  He might be good eventually, but “once in a lifetime talent”?  As much as I would like you to be right, saying it doesn’t make it so.  

[Schmoeman5]

3 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Against LHP and the Twins won huge both games partly due to their contributions.

Won huge both games? Sat they went off. Yesterday? Unless you consider 3 runs huge. 

 

1 hour ago, Riverbrian said:

If I'm being Shawshanked... Does that make me one of the screws? 

Do I have to buy beer for everyone cuz RPR is doing my financial planning?

Just 2 bottles of suds. But it has to be Strohs Bohemian style. Nothing else will do.

[Schmoeman5]

2 hours ago, mnfireman said:

He's just Shawshanking you...

R u stealing my line? 

[RpR]

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https://www.yoergbeer.com/

[David HK]

8 hours ago, SwainZag said:

Looks like he has played and started there twice so far since his call up to AAA.  Make it noted though, it's the only time he has played 2B in his minor league career.  You do have Julien there as well, who plays the same position and needs to be getting the ABs as well.

True.  But sadly, Eddy doesn't seem to be doing much with those ABs he's getting.  

[FlyingFinn]

9 minutes ago, David HK said:

But sadly, Eddy doesn't seem to be doing much with those ABs he's getting.  

He's been improving throughout this month. 8 for 22 with 8 walks this past week. I really want to see him get those walks and yet swing more with two strikes when it's close. 

[mnfireman]

1 minute ago, FlyingFinn said:

He's been improving throughout this month. 8 for 22 with 8 walks this past week. I really want to see him get those walks and yet swing more with two strikes when it's close. 

Just about everybody at St. Paul hit well last week...

[Linus]

2 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

1. not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull.

   Synonyms: unobservant, dim, slow, boorish, gauche, imperceptive, blind, insensitive, tactless, unfeeling

2. not sharp, acute, or pointed; blunt in form.
3. (of a leaf, petal, etc.) rounded at the extremity.
4. indistinctly felt or perceived, as pain or sound.

I resemble that. 

[Linus]

On a more serious note. Wouldn’t the Twins want him to play more than two games at 2b before calling him up to play that position in the bigs?

[Jocko87]

1 hour ago, Rod Carews Birthday said:

Are you Brooks Lee’s mom?  He might be good eventually, but “once in a lifetime talent”?  As much as I would like you to be right, saying it doesn’t make it so.  

Not saying he's once in a lifetime, but he's what?  A once a decade player for Twins fans?  We have every reason to be as high on him as we ever were for Buxton, Mauer, Kubel, Hunter, Puckett or Todd (gulp) Walker.  We are having this discussion less than two years after a guy was drafted in the first round.  How many years do we get that?  1 in 10?  Maybe.

That we have two prospects of the decade at the moment doesn't affect my point.  Things are just better now.

[Shaitan]

lol at saying we have a black hole at 2B followed by suggesting a player who has pretty much never played the position

[Shaitan]

He'll get his chance. Give him at least 100 AB. Who knows if his back is healthy. 

And while I've seen discussion of his playing time at 2B in this thread, I've seen no mention of his defense in general.

If a player is "ready" it's not just about offense. (Or defense. There's a mental side too.)

[Mike Sixel]

40 minutes ago, Linus said:

On a more serious note. Wouldn’t the Twins want him to play more than two games at 2b before calling him up to play that position in the bigs?

Apparently not. They are only playing him at short, like we ever want CC not there in the next few years.... It seems odd. 

[RpR]

25 minutes ago, Shaitan said:

He'll get his chance. Give him at least 100 AB. Who knows if his back is healthy. 

And while I've seen discussion of his playing time at 2B in this thread, I've seen no mention of his defense in general.

If a player is "ready" it's not just about offense. (Or defense. There's a mental side too.)

Looks more like Julien than Farmer or Castro.

 

[SwainZag]

4 hours ago, David HK said:

True.  But sadly, Eddy doesn't seem to be doing much with those ABs he's getting.  

Sadly true.  I really hope he shakes it out though.  We have seen him be a productive hitter.  Pitchers definitely figured out that he sits on the fastball and let's everything else go.  It was fine when they would throw the junk for balls, but when they realized they could throw it for strikes and he wouldn't swing or have very soft contact things went downhill. 

He certainly has potential, but needs to realize that pitchers make adjustments and he needs to as well.  

[bighat]

9 hours ago, Rod Carews Birthday said:

Are you Brooks Lee’s mom?  He might be good eventually, but “once in a lifetime talent”?  As much as I would like you to be right, saying it doesn’t make it so.  

Really? I thought that's how it worked around here, as people have been pretending that Trevor Larnach and Alex Kirilloff are good for years, despite evidence to the contrary. 

Lewis & Lee are going to make Ruth & Gehrig look like t-ball players. Fact. Just wait.