2021 Trade Deadline Week Rumors

[Seth Stohs]

I thought it would be good to have a location for people to just share rumors that we are hearing online about the Twins and be able to discuss them. Most rumors don't come to fruition, but it's clear there is a lot of smoke. 

Jose Berrios is rumored to be going all kinds of places (Mets, Padres, and more).

Max Kepler is in rumors involving the Yankees and likely other teams too. 

What happens with Buxton?

Andrelton Simmons and the Reds have been connected, maybe the Mets. 

Alexander Colome has been solid since May 1st, and has a long line of being very good. Maybe they can get a C prospect for him. 

Taylor Rogers is a wanted man. Every team would love to add an arm like that. How cool would it be for him to wind up with his twin brother in San Francisco? Or, could the Twins work out a deal with him?

J.A. Happ... could they get a Type C prospect from someone who thinks his long run of success and such?

Any chance to trade Miguel Sano? Any reason to at this time?

Think anyone could have interest in Willians Astudillo? 

Discuss these topics, and if you read a tweet or an article with a Twins rumor, be sure to include it. 

 

 

[Seth Stohs]

Here are a few... 

Berrios: 

 

Kepler: 

 

Pineda: 

  

 

[JW24]

Had some fun on the MLB Trade Values website. Berrios and Kepler to Yankees could return Jasson Dominguez, Deivi Garcia, Luis Gil, and Anthony Volpe. Would the Yankees actually do that, given the pedigree Dominguez has? Probably not, but based on the values in the website, it would not be an egregious ask by the Twins.

[Seth Stohs]

Heyman says the Brewers have checked in on Donaldson. 

 

[AD Lindy]

Is it in the works for another “Frank Viola” type trade for Berrios?  Would hate to see him go but the Viola trade helped Twins win it all in’91. 

[Squirrel]

8 hours ago, Seth Stohs said:

 

 

 

  

 

Ugh ... I would hate this ... 

[Dman]

17 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

Ugh ... I would hate this ... 

Buxton to Yankee's would kill me.  

[Dman]

I am not sure who might need him but Astudillo is a versatile player who can be a catcher which can be hard to find in a bench player.  If you need a pinch hitter to put the ball in play he doesn't strike out much so he could provide some value there as well.  The Twins are not going to have room for him next year if they plan to keep Gordon.  He would only fetch a remote lottery ticket but I would take it if a team was interested because I just can't see him coming back next year.  Thinking maybe the Braves would possibly do it?

[Brock Beauchamp]

I'm really glad the Twins moved Cruz so early because it appears they're having difficulty convincing anyone else to bite well ahead of the deadline... which is something of a nightmare scenario for this team, as they have the most moveable commodities on the entire market. On top of their expiring player contracts, they are certainly fielding calls on the likes of Donaldson, Berríos, Buxton, Kepler, and possibly others.

And if no one is willing to sign off on a deal before tomorrow, that's going to make it really hard for the Twins to maximize their value on any of their players, which makes it all the more likely none of those non-expiring contracts are moved. It's hard to envision the Twins receiving good value on Donaldson with Bryant still on the market, for example. Or Berríos with Scherzer still on the market. Etc etc. On top of not receiving maximum value, it becomes a quantity and clock issue at some point. If no one is ready to make a deal before tomorrow, how reasonable is it for the Twins to be able to negotiate and move 4+ players in a single day?

Here's hoping someone pulls the trigger on at least one Twins player today and gets the ball rolling on this. The next 36 hours could be the most important this front office has faced since taking over the organization.

[Brock Beauchamp]

I'm constantly surprised how little noise there is around Pineda this deadline. While he's not a flashy pickup, he's a strike-throwing beast that many teams would be happy to start their fourth playoff game (and a few teams where he might start their third).

[wsnydes]

45 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I'm really glad the Twins moved Cruz so early because it appears they're having difficulty convincing anyone else to bite well ahead of the deadline... which is something of a nightmare scenario for this team, as they have the most moveable commodities on the entire market. On top of their expiring player contracts, they are certainly fielding calls on the likes of Donaldson, Berríos, Buxton, Kepler, and possibly others.

And if no one is willing to sign off on a deal before tomorrow, that's going to make it really hard for the Twins to maximize their value on any of their players, which makes it all the more likely none of those expiring contracts are moved. It's hard to envision the Twins receiving good value on Donaldson with Bryant still on the market, for example. Or Berríos with Scherzer still on the market. Etc etc. On top of not receiving maximum value, it becomes a quantity and clock issue at some point. If no one is ready to make a deal before tomorrow, how reasonable is it for the Twins to be able to negotiate and move 4+ players in a single day?

Here's hoping someone pulls the trigger on at least one Twins player today and gets the ball rolling on this. The next 36 hours could be the most important this front office has faced since taking over the organization.

It would only figure that in a season like this, with such potential for multiple moves at the deadline, that they become paralyzed by other inactivity in the market and get stuck with most or all of those that should be dealt.  That seems very 2021 Twins-esque.  Whatever can go wrong, most certainly will go wrong.

[wsnydes]

2 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I'm constantly surprised how little noise there is around Pineda this deadline. While he's not a flashy pickup, he's a strike-throwing beast that many teams would be happy to start their fourth playoff game (and a few teams where he might start their third).

And he's trending in the right direction of late, no?  Perhaps that's what teams were waiting to see?

[Brock Beauchamp]

2 minutes ago, wsnydes said:

And he's trending in the right direction of late, no?  Perhaps that's what teams were waiting to see?

Very possible. He was shelled once early this month but has looked good in his past two starts.

2021 Pitching Game Log

Rk	Gcar	Gtm	Date	Tm		Opp	Rslt	Inngs	Dec	DR	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	HBP	ERA	BF	Pit	Str	StL	StS	GB	FB	LD	PU	Unk	GSc	IR	IS	SB	CS	PO	AB	2B	3B	IBB	GDP	SF	ROE	aLI	WPA	acLI	cWPA	RE24	DFS(DK)	DFS(FD)	Entered	Exited
Jun				Tm		Opp	Rslt	Inngs	Dec	DR	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	HBP	ERA	BF	Pit	Str	StL	StS	GB	FB	LD	PU	Unk	GSc	IR	IS	SB	CS	PO	AB	2B	3B	IBB	GDP	SF	ROE	aLI	WPA	acLI	cWPA	RE24	DFS(DK)	DFS(FD)	Entered	Exited
9	157	54	Jun 1	MIN	@	BAL	L,4-7	GS-3	L(3-3)	5	3.0	7	5	5	0	1	0	0	3.40	16	53	37	10	4	8	7	3	1	0	26			1	0	0	16	1	1	0	0	0	0	.95	-0.329	.32	-0.07%	-3.44	-5.45	-3.00	1b start tie	3b 3 out d4
10	158	60	Jun 8	MIN		NYY	L,4-8	GS-5		6	4.1	4	2	2	2	2	0	0	3.46	20	76	56	14	8	7	9	5	2	0	47			0	0	0	18	1	0	0	0	0	1	1.16	-0.054	.28	-0.01%	-0.10	6.15	13.00	1t start tie	5t 123 1 out a1
11	159	65	Jun 13	MIN		HOU	L,3-14	GS-4	L(3-4)	4	4.0	6	3	3	1	1	1	0	3.70	19	64	39	11	2	5	12	5	1	0	38			1	0	0	17	1	0	0	0	1	0	.80	-0.129	.12	-0.01%	-1.03	0.80	6.00	1t start tie	4t 3 out d3
Jul				Tm		Opp	Rslt	Inngs	Dec	DR	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	HBP	ERA	BF	Pit	Str	StL	StS	GB	FB	LD	PU	Unk	GSc	IR	IS	SB	CS	PO	AB	2B	3B	IBB	GDP	SF	ROE	aLI	WPA	acLI	cWPA	RE24	DFS(DK)	DFS(FD)	Entered	Exited
12	160	85	Jul 7	MIN		CHW	L,1-6	GS-6	L(3-5)	23	5.1	12	5	5	0	4	1	0	4.11	25	82	60	15	5	8	13	9	0	0	28			1	1	0	24	5	1	0	2	0	0	.89	-0.257	.10	-0.02%	-2.68	2.80	13.00	1t start tie	6t -2- 1 out d4
13	161	96	Jul 21	MIN	@	CHW	W,7-2	GS-5	W(4-5)	13	5.0	4	1	1	1	3	0	0	3.93	20	73	48	9	9	10	6	2	1	0	57			3	0	0	19	3	0	0	1	0	1	1.11	0.165	.02	0.00%	1.57	16.25	33.00	1b start tie	5b 3 out a2
14	162	101	Jul 26	MIN		DET	W,6-5	GS-6		4	6.0	5	2	2	0	6	1	0	3.86	22	85	59	11	13	8	8	4	0	0	60			0	0	0	22	1	0	0	0	0	0	.85	0.069	.01	0.00%	0.99	18.50	30.00	1t start tie	6t 3 out tie
							6-8		W-L:4-5	5.2	72.1	70	33	31	16	64	12	0	3.86	298	1122	68%	18%	11%	0.72		23%	7%	0	52		---%	6	4	1	278	17	2	0	4	2	4	.94	0.369	.45	0.32%	2.32	193.15	364.00

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 7/28/2021.

[MMMordabito]

55 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I'm really glad the Twins moved Cruz so early because it appears they're having difficulty convincing anyone else to bite well ahead of the deadline... which is something of a nightmare scenario for this team, as they have the most moveable commodities on the entire market. On top of their expiring player contracts, they are certainly fielding calls on the likes of Donaldson, Berríos, Buxton, Kepler, and possibly others.

And if no one is willing to sign off on a deal before tomorrow, that's going to make it really hard for the Twins to maximize their value on any of their players, which makes it all the more likely none of those non-expiring contracts are moved. It's hard to envision the Twins receiving good value on Donaldson with Bryant still on the market, for example. Or Berríos with Scherzer still on the market. Etc etc. On top of not receiving maximum value, it becomes a quantity and clock issue at some point. If no one is ready to make a deal before tomorrow, how reasonable is it for the Twins to be able to negotiate and move 4+ players in a single day?

Here's hoping someone pulls the trigger on at least one Twins player today and gets the ball rolling on this. The next 36 hours could be the most important this front office has faced since taking over the organization.

Maybe they have the same guys in charge of the clock that the Vikings had when McKinnie and Kevin Williams were drafted.  If they can blunder into acquiring the baseball version of Kevin Williams, I can forgive and forget quickly. ?

[Brock Beauchamp]

8 minutes ago, MMMordabito said:

Maybe they have the same guys in charge of the clock that the Vikings had when McKinnie and Kevin Williams were drafted.  If they can blunder into acquiring the baseball version of Kevin Williams, I can forgive and forget quickly. ?

While I've been critical of the front office lately for a variety of things, I don't think this one is on them... they moved Cruz very early so they're willing to make a deal if the deal is right. And the entire market has been very slow, not just the Twins.

[chpettit19]

Number of places saying the Nats prefer to move Scherzer soon (working out his no trade situation may be a reason why), maybe even today. I think that helps the Berrios market. Berrios is the only arm on the market who would be a realistic "response" move from a contender. I'm not saying Berrios is as good as Scherzer (he isn't), but he's the only other arm that provides a team with a top 3 rotation arm in a playoff series. If the Dodgers or Padres (or Giants?) get Scherzer does that force the other 1 (or 2) teams to up their offers for Berrios to try to stay with whoever gets Scherzer? I think Scherzer going to one of those NL West teams would be really helpful in getting the most out of a Berrios trade (if he gets moved).

[mikelink45]

On 7/26/2021 at 12:07 PM, Seth Stohs said:

Here are a few... 

Berrios: 

 

Kepler: 

 

Pineda: 

  

 

Of course - Buxton would take over for Hicks - just keep that MN train chugging along.

[Dodecahedron]

On 7/26/2021 at 12:07 PM, Seth Stohs said:

Here are a few... 

Berrios: 

 

Kepler: 

 

Pineda: 

  

 

No fire sales right there.

[Danchat]

Steve Adams from MLBT said that there will likely be 15 deals made in the 30 minutes before the deadline, which I can buy after the lack of trades up to this point. This will probably include Pineda, Simmons, and any of the other guys who are relatively tradeable.

[Steve Lein]

Wow, Jesus Luzardo for Starling Marte. Were the Athletics that desperate for an OF?

[chpettit19]

1 hour ago, Steve Lein said:

Wow, Jesus Luzardo for Starling Marte. Were the Athletics that desperate for an OF?

Or is Luzardo's stock down that far? Marlins also covered the rest of Marte's deal this year, I believe, so that upped the return some I'd think.

[bean5302]

1 hour ago, Steve Lein said:

Wow, Jesus Luzardo for Starling Marte. Were the Athletics that desperate for an OF?

That's what going for it looks like. The Marlins really wanted to dump Marte's salary. The A's got them to keep it in Florida and that cost the A's talent. I can't recall a move by Minnesota... ever, which was bolder. When the Twins "go for it" they get Matt Capps. I think the biggest trade deadline get for the Twins was the acquisition of rental Orlando Cabrera in 2009.

[Steve Lein]

10 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

That's what going for it looks like. The Marlins really wanted to dump Marte's salary. The A's got them to keep it in Florida and that cost the A's talent. I can't recall a move by Minnesota... ever, which was bolder. When the Twins "go for it" they get Matt Capps. I think the biggest trade deadline get for the Twins was the acquisition of rental Orlando Cabrera in 2009.

I'll say Shannon Stewart was their biggest deadline acquisition. ?

[Twinsrtheworst]

I remember the deadline 9f 2019...we won over 100 games that year.  Be did close to nothing to improve that club and go for it.  Here we are 2 years later....as sellers.  Well don FO

[Irishman]

4 hours ago, mikelink45 said:

Of course - Buxton would take over for Hicks - just keep that MN train chugging along.

Please don’t trade Buxton to Yankees!  Keep him one more year!

[Brock Beauchamp]

We just passed the 48 hour mark... and...

[Brock Beauchamp]

The Twins have the most moveable assets of any team in baseball and their MLBTR page hasn't updated in 24 hours.

So bored. Something happen, please.

[Mike Sixel]

29 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

The Twins have the most moveable assets of any team in baseball and their MLBTR page hasn't updated in 24 hours.

So bored. Something happen, please.

I predict 1-2 of Duffey, Colome, Thielbar is traded tomorrow. Maybe tonight.

Then we wait for Pineda to be dealt. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

 More on Kepler to the Yankees. It makes a ton of sense from both sides. 

[TNtwins85]

It looks like the Padres are looking to unload Eric Hosmer. Does anyone else think it makes sense to swoop in and take on that contract with a Berrios trade? I think he fits right in if we can package it right. He’s not that expensive either over the next couple years. If it helps us get a Gore and Espinoza with hosmer for Berrios possibly? I think I take that deal. Any thoughts?