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You are gaslighting all of us. Not a good investment? They bought the club for $44m and will get probably $1.5b while netting the $10-20m operating income each year. Unbelievable return. This comment is trying to rewrite the cheapness of the Pohlads. Even including their investment for the stadium, their return is somewhere between 500-1000% not including annual income.

Couple of counter points - 1) Royce Lewis is not a 'recent' draft pick (6 yrs ago) plus he has not been able to stay on the field up to this point. While we all have high hopes for Lee and Jenkins, way to early to put this in the win column - not until we see MLB performance. If you are going back to when the Duo first started, Rooker was a 1st round failure, Larnach has not even been an average MLB, nothing needs to be said about Cavaco and Sabato, too soon to tell on Noah Miller and everyone from 2021 and after. 2) Attracting what talent? Correa? That is looking like a mistake at this point. Donaldson? That was an unmitigated disaster that we had to basically pay to get out from under that contract (by giving up Garver (indirectly) and Rortvedt. I can't think of other high profile player the Duo has signed during their tenure. 3) Trades - you also forget the faiure that was the Pressley trade. That has not worked out at all. I would also add in the Maeda trade. One decent season and giving up Graterol was not a win. If you consider the Escobar trade that netted Duran a win then the Maeda trade was a loss.

That would make complete sense. Poster childs for this are Gallo like you mentioned and Buxton this year. Solo homers and striking out do not make a winning team (as our Twins have shown for much of the season).

Updated MLB Farm System Rankings After 2023 MLB Draft | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report New ranking just came out - 27 (which is a fall from 11 at the previous ranking). This includes the most recent draft results. Also interesting to see Christian Encarnacion Strand the number 2 ranked prospect in the Reds 3rd rated system. Mahle trade is now almost laugable how one sided it has been (with Steer already playing solid ball in the majors). Incredible work by the FO to achieve such lofty ranking 7 years into tenure and graduating so many high level prospects.

This FO appears to be incapable of admitting a mistake. Pure Hubris. Nobody wanted EP back this year but Falvine signed him anyway and now won't DFA as that would admit the error. Same goes for Kepler not being DFA, Gallo, keeping Buxton at DH rather than play the field and have a better hitter there (Jullien, Wallner, Lewis, any number of guys). Now just waiting for a Mahle signing shoe to drop to prevent admitting that horrendous trade (even though we should not need him in 2025 when he would return and be only partially effective 1st yr back). This FO needs to ask their accounting department about what a 'sunk cost' is - and how it plays a part of roster construction.

Yesterdays lineup could be the poster child why Rocco needs to go soon. While the FO has its own bushel of faults/problems, even I don't believe Falvine sent a message to Rocco to bat Garlick 3rd, nor pinch hit Larnach and Kepler who are simply flailing at this point, nor having Correa hit 4th when there are currently better options for those slots with Lewis, Jeffers, Farmer. Salary is moot and sunk cost at this point, order should show who is performing regardless of hurt feelings or regret of contracts.

You are correct - can't hang those five on them. But can hang this impressive group: Rooker, Landon Leach, Enlow, Larnach, Cavaco, Sabato, Soularie. This is just the top 3 rounds from 2017-2020. Go to Baseball Reference and take a look at their drafting skills since the 2017 draft - not pretty and a big reason we are seeing this product on the field. Here is what we have from 2021 Draft: Petty (Traded for 1.5 seasons of Gray) Gone, Miller (so far not so good), Hajjar (not even wiht the Twins - Guardians now), Povich (Traded). That is the first 3 rounds. Another lost draft.

Use whatever draft ranking service you want. I am not going to analyze 6 yrs of moves and redraft the entire 6 yrs (Joe Pohlad should ask for this analysis though). International signings could be done as simply take the money and sign the highest rated players possible - with what the money allows. The point is the duo have added virtually nothing during their 6+ yr tenure and having a very inexperienced person would not have produced any fewer playoff wins (zero thus far). The straw argument that there would be no pitching does not fly. If we don’t sign players to extensions then we would have fielded trade proposals which would have netted something back. Are those assets pitching, don’t know as it is theoretical, but may have been. Bottom line is Falvine have done virtually nothing since they arrived that a majority of the people on this website could not have accomplished - with the possibility that a few could have done more. As far as the argument of laying out a plan what I or someone else would have done over the last 6 yrs, give me 1/10 of what those two have earned thus far and I would be happy to spend the time to do so.

How predictable you come to Falvine defense Mike. We have Chase Petty ( or someone else drafted) back for Gray. Would have had Presley and Escobar in place of Duran. Considering we would have 6 yrs of redrafting and international signings I am betting we could have produced more pitchers than Ober and Varland - but that is just my thoughts.

As I said in another tread, consider the possibility of the Twins if none of the Trades/Moves Falvine have made occurred since they were hired (just put an intern in the chair and hired any experience baseball person to evaluate trade offers, not negotiate, just evaluate). No Rocco, Molitor as manager. No Kepler extension. No Sano extension. No Pressley Trade. No Donaldson deal. No Buxton extension. No Correa signing(s). None of it. One more step - drafting the BPA (by MLB ranking service) in 2019/2020 instead of Cavaco and Sabato. Heck, even BPA for every pick in every draft the last six years.Basically taking the FO out of the equation the last 6 years and go on autopilot. Only miss Polanco extension (even that is a little questionable with minor league talent and how often he has been hurt and we would have gotten assets back in a trade) and Joe Ryan. One move and possibily one extension. Certainly would not be any worse today and would have more minor league talent. There is not a free agent on the team that is contributing more than about replacement at this point. And if the were still inept (which is certainly possible but certainly not given) at least we could point to an intern being the GM rather than the overpaid smarest guys in the room Falvine.

I would take it a step further. Consider the possibility of the Twins if none of the Trades/Moves Falvine have made occurred. No Rocco, Molitor as manager. One more step - drafting the BPA (by MLB ranking service) in 2019/2020 instead of Cavaco and Sabato. Heck, even BPA for every pick in every draft the last six years. Basically taking the FO out of the equation the last 6 years and go on autopilot. No Donaldson deal, No Buxton extension, No Correa signing, etc... Only thing missed would be Joe Ryan. One move. Certainly would not be any worse and would have more minor league talent.

I would much rather have a roster that looks like what you published here than what this FO has trotted out the last 2 yrs. I am done with signings like Gallo, Shoemaker, Happ, Colome, Bundy, Archer, and the constant and numerous retreads Falvine has trotted out from the waiver wire that have provided absolutely nothing to build upon. At least this would allow the organization to determine exactly what we have in the pipeline and provide some further prospects if the trades proposed would occur - as this team is nowhere close to serious contention. Ability to give a final grade on the FO ability to create and form a minor league pipeline. Let the leather meet the road.

The answer is simple - $$$. We have yet to lose out on a player where we were the high bidder. End of story. When we become the high bidder, then we will sign free agents.

I have not posted on this site in over a year as my criticism of the FO was often met with distain (certainly there were some who were also critical, but a smaller percentage than the cheerleaders for sure). Beast points it out perfectly. Interesting to see the tenor of the site has changed dramatically in 1 yr - despite this FO having the same stripes as previous years. Falvine is the same today as they were one year ago, 3 years ago, and 5 yrs ago. They have yet to show a compentcy in any significant aspect of a FO - Trading, Developing Talent, Drafting, or Signing FA. Gallo and whomever else follows is just more of the same.