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    When the Minnesota Twins selected Royce Lewis first overall in the 2017 Major League Baseball draft, he was announced as a shortstop out of JSerra High School in southern California. He made his major-league debut at the position and then moved to centerfield a few days later. Now back in the big leagues, he could be Minnesota’s long-term answer at the hot corner.

     

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    This offseason, the Minnesota Twins found themselves winners of the twisting and turning Carlos Correa free agency saga. He was back with the club he signed a record deal to play for following the lockout before the 2022 season. In doing so, it seemed that Derek Falvey and Thad Levine had their answer at shortstop for at least the next half-decade.

    For the top Twins prospect, Royce Lewis found himself working as a shortstop but seeing that position accounted for at the highest level. Not eligible to return for the Twins until late May, an opportunity was always going to need to present itself.

    Both clients of agent Scott Boras, there have obviously been conversations among the three parties about their futures. As Lewis raked his way through a rehab assignment, all it took for something to materialize was 2022 breakout Jose Miranda losing his way. The hot corner was open, and although Kyle Farmer had played there in recent weeks, Lewis represents the future.

    At this exact moment, Correa is struggling through a painful bout of plantar fasciitis. When he originally was taken out of the lineup, I wondered whether Farmer would take over behind him, or Lewis would slide into the position he has played the majority of his professional career. The answer was immediate. Lewis stayed at the hot corner, and things appeared to be settled.

    It’s been a very small sample at third base thus far, but the hot corner is not unfamiliar territory for Lewis. He spent all but his senior year at the position during high school, and if nothing else, it should be a bit easier of a spot. He’s taken to it swimmingly, and we have seen both his glove and arm play.

    The timeline for Correa’s return is not straightforward. He could need sporadic time off for the rest of the season. That puts the shortstop position in flux while he deals with the malady. Maybe Miranda turns things around with Triple-A St. Paul, but his spot now seems to be gone. Jorge Polanco is only under contract at second base through this season, but both Edouard Julien and Brooks Lee could play themselves into that role. All over the diamond, Minnesota has relatively straightforward developmental plans.

    Leaving Lewis at third base while Correa has been out gives the Twins youngster an opportunity to settle into a home that he could call his own for the duration of his career. We have seen players like Anthony Rendon,  Manny Machado, and Alex Rodriguez both get big paydays as third basemen. There is plenty of money to be made at the hot corner. Within the AL Central, Jose Ramirez is also at third base and can claim to be one of the best players in the sport.

    If Lewis never finds an opportunity to move off the position, that probably says more about what the Twins have done from a development perspective than a disservice to a role he once held. If early returns are any indication, and again the sample is minuscule, then things should be viewed as extremely promising. Just five games in, Lewis already has contributed two outs above average, and earning a Gold Glove at third base is much easier in a league without Nolan Arenado.

    Maybe Royce Lewis never plays shortstop again for the Minnesota Twins, but that’s why you draft athletes that can play up the middle, and from there you deploy them wherever the team sees a fit.

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    100% agree Ted.  Correa has been superb defensively and Lewis, in his brief recent appearances, has flashed both leather and arm.  Twins fans should not be losing any sleep over the left side of our infield hopefully for several years.

    Lewis at 3B sets the dominoes in motion. Lee, therefore, looks like the 2B of the future.  Ideally, Miranda and Julien battle it out for 1B and DH (when BB is unavailable). Miranda can sub at 3B and Julien at 2B when needed (and, btw, Lee and Lewis can sub at SS when CC needs a break). Kiriloff, Wallner and Larnach are your three corner outfielders with the occasional DH role against RH pitching. They all hit lefty, but with only Julien (and Gordon if he stays as a super sub utility player) a purely left handed bat among the rest of the team (Jeffers and Vasquez are both RH bats), it should be ok.  Now, we (sadly) need to find a CF of the future - ideally probably one who bats RH. Rodriguez? 

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    I'd say it's far from settled, but I think third base is Lewis' unless and until it isn't. If Miranda returns to form and if Buxton can play CF regularly (neither of which is a small if) I see Miranda as the primary DH during the next few years. Hoping and projecting, Kirilloff will be at 1B, Julien at 2B, Correa at SS, Lee as a utility player with regular usage, Larnach, Wallner, Buxton and Celestino will be the OF. We then fill in with two catchers (presumably Jeffers and someone else) and another utility player. Obviously parts can be mixed and matched but that could be a very competitive roster.

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    10 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said:

    I'd say it's far from settled, but I think third base is Lewis' unless and until it isn't. If Miranda returns to form and if Buxton can play CF regularly (neither of which is a small if) I see Miranda as the primary DH during the next few years. Hoping and projecting, Kirilloff will be at 1B, Julien at 2B, Correa at SS, Lee as a utility player with regular usage, Larnach, Wallner, Buxton and Celestino will be the OF. We then fill in with two catchers (presumably Jeffers and someone else) and another utility player. Obviously parts can be mixed and matched but that could be a very competitive roster.

    Agreed. We need to see what happens when the league scouts and adjusts to him. But, early returns are promising, and it looks like he can handle the fielding side of it.

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    19 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said:

    I'd say it's far from settled, but I think third base is Lewis' unless and until it isn't. If Miranda returns

    I really hope it is settled (fingers crossed), Lewis has all of 65 major league at bats so I don't want to get ahead of my self. I mean there is a chance he slumps, gets sent down and Miranda come up and plays awesome. But man wouldn't it be nice to actually have another position locked down.

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    3B is basically Lewis's right now, but with Lewis's range he wont stay at 3B. He should be better utilized at SS or 2B. When Lee comes up, his best position is 3B, at that time it's his. And when Correa can no longer play SS? Then he'll move over at 3B. So I see Lewis's time at 3B is temporary. I believe Lewis could play SS right now in Correa's absense but I think they want to settle Lewis at 3B for this year. Miranda time at 3B is done, if Miranda & Julien tear up AAA & come up to MLB, their time should be limited to 1B/DH.

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    I like the speculation that looks to the future. All the names have been in the comments above. So we need to see the vets like Kepler moved out of the way. They don't need to resign Gallo, and if they move Kepler layout field is open to the players that are knocking at the door. The biggest? Is Miranda. I just wonder what happened to him. I really felt he was going to be good, but that is the issue with the young players until they come in and move past the first adjustment that the rest of the league makes. We just don't really know. I think you are right though Ted. Appreciate the article. 

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    I think what we have seen from the Twins is nothing is settled, but Lewis should be there for hopefully many years to come.  Even if Miranda gets back to hitting like he has shown, his defense is terrible compared to Lewis.  If Lewis in CC and play the level of defense they have shown, we may need to start looking for ground ball pitchers. 

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    The infield of the future is Kiriloff, Lee, Correa and Lewis.   You can align Lee and Lewis at 2nd and 3rd, but that should be the strongest infield we can field.    Miranda is a DH at best, not sure where to play Julien.    The outfield should be Buxton and ........ well, you fill in the blanks.   Kinda off subject, but our starting pitchers are as good as I can ever remember us having.    They need to extend Gray and concentrate on rebuilding the bullpen.

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    I think we were having this same conversation around this time last year with Miranda too.  That said, I think Lewis, when healthy, is obviously a much surer thing.  He seems to have slotted in very comfortably at the hot corner.  That makes for a very solid defensive left side of the infield.  Just thinking about a defensive infield of Lewis, Correa, Lee and Kirilloff for a few years is a pretty exciting thought.

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    I don't think the Twins view the hot corner as settled at all. I think it's settled for right now, but I don't think we're seeing them put Lewis at 3B and not think about it for 6 more years. Putting an up the middle defender at a corner spot and leaving them there with no questions isn't how most teams would operate. The Twins lack true up the middle defenders, and, if Lewis is one (yes, even in that death trap known as center field), they'll look for an opportunity to move him back to the middle. Even if it's Lee taking over 3B instead of Miranda taking the job back, Lewis would move to 2B over sticking at 3B with Lee at 2B.

    Having up the middle players move to a corner, and provide plus defense there, is obviously super nice, but not if it means having negative defense up the middle. Having corner bats capable of playing up the middle is a huge advantage. If Lewis is one of those players, but they leave him at a corner while playing lesser players up the middle, the Twins are wasting the advantage they have in Lewis.

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    38 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    I don't think the Twins view the hot corner as settled at all. I think it's settled for right now, but I don't think we're seeing them put Lewis at 3B and not think about it for 6 more years. Putting an up the middle defender at a corner spot and leaving them there with no questions isn't how most teams would operate. The Twins lack true up the middle defenders, and, if Lewis is one (yes, even in that death trap known as center field), they'll look for an opportunity to move him back to the middle. Even if it's Lee taking over 3B instead of Miranda taking the job back, Lewis would move to 2B over sticking at 3B with Lee at 2B.

    Having up the middle players move to a corner, and provide plus defense there, is obviously super nice, but not if it means having negative defense up the middle. Having corner bats capable of playing up the middle is a huge advantage. If Lewis is one of those players, but they leave him at a corner while playing lesser players up the middle, the Twins are wasting the advantage they have in Lewis.

    The Twins lack true up the middle defenders? At what position? 2nd base 

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    17 minutes ago, Schmoeman5 said:

    The Twins lack true up the middle defenders? At what position? 2nd base 

    For the future? CF and 2B, and SS when Correa moves to 3B (that may not be for another half decade, though).

    MAT is 32, he's not the future in CF. None of the other ready, or near ready, Twins prospects are CFers outside of maybe Martin, but can he hit? Is anyone confident Buxton is the full-time CFer for the next 5 years? I'm sure not.

    Could Lee defend at 2B? Sure, but wouldn't Lewis be better since he has more range, and Lee would then be the 3B, thus making the hot corner not settled for the future with Lewis? What other 2B in the system is near ready and can field the position?

    So out of 3 non-catcher up the middle positions they have 1 covered. So, yeah, I'm going to stick with the hot corner not at all being settled for the future when you have 2 up the middle positions that Lewis could cover unmanned while you have multiple possible options on the corners. Sticking an up the middle player on a corner when you have other corner players, and no up the middle players, isn't great resource management in my view.

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    20 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    For the future? CF and 2B, and SS when Correa moves to 3B (that may not be for another half decade, though).

    MAT is 32, he's not the future in CF. None of the other ready, or near ready, Twins prospects are CFers outside of maybe Martin, but can he hit? Is anyone confident Buxton is the full-time CFer for the next 5 years? I'm sure not.

    Could Lee defend at 2B? Sure, but wouldn't Lewis be better since he has more range, and Lee would then be the 3B, thus making the hot corner not settled for the future with Lewis? What other 2B in the system is near ready and can field the position?

    So out of 3 non-catcher up the middle positions they have 1 covered. So, yeah, I'm going to stick with the hot corner not at all being settled for the future when you have 2 up the middle positions that Lewis could cover unmanned while you have multiple possible options on the corners. Sticking an up the middle player on a corner when you have other corner players, and no up the middle players, isn't great resource management in my view.

    Gotcha. I thought you were talking about the here and now. My mistake. Thanks for the clarification 👍 

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    Just now, Schmoeman5 said:

    Gotcha. I thought you were talking about the here and now. My mistake. Thanks for the clarification 👍 

    Yeah, they have up the middle players for the now, even if I'd prefer Lewis in CF, but I understand why they won't be doing that anytime soon. I'm good with letting him settle in. And I'm a huge Polanco fan, even if he's not a great glove, he's serviceable at 2B. I hope they hold onto him for next year, too, assuming he plays to his typical level, and injuries don't become too big of a concern. I'm not amongst the fans who believe they should be moving on from him in favor of the young guys after this year.

    But the future of the middle of the Twins defense is looking awfully shaky right now. So I really hope they don't view 3B as Lewis' forever home.

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    3 hours ago, Linus said:

    If Buck cannot regularly play CF in the future then Lewis should move there. Get your best athletes at the premium defensive positions. 

    Agreed. Lee is your 3B of the future, if Lewis can move to CF. I had hoped we'd get Lewis in CF this year, but that looks unlikely at this point. It's too bad, because it looks like Buxton isn't going back there any time soon.

    Salas or Severino are also possibilities at SS or 2B, in addition to Julien (no way I'd play him in the field if I could avoid it).

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    34 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

    Salas or Severino are also possibilities at SS or 2B, in addition to Julien

    Miller and Salas are hitting about the same in Cedar Rapids and Miller plays SS 5 days per week with Salas there for 1 day. Miller is known as the best SS defender in the Twins system. If he can hit, he's our future SS. Maybe Salas at 2B if his hitting gets much better (he's young). Severino - no way he plays SS. And I think Julien and Severino will be bad at 2B defensively. Again, it sure would be nice to have a DH spot open for one of them (or Miranda) coming up.

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    1 minute ago, FlyingFinn said:

    Miller and Salas are hitting about the same in Cedar Rapids and Miller plays SS 5 days per week with Salas there for 1 day. Miller is known as the best SS defender in the Twins system. If he can hit, he's our future SS. Maybe Salas at 2B if his hitting gets much better (he's young). Severino - no way he plays SS. And I think Julien and Severino will be bad at 2B defensively. Again, it sure would be nice to have a DH spot open for one of them (or Miranda) coming up.

    Ya, I really should have just said 2B in that post. I have no idea if Severino is good or bad at 2B, I guess I could look (but he can't be as bad as Julien).

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    If we are talking about next year and beyond then next year Buxton should be back in CF.  Atleast half time.  I understand his move is because we traded for Taylor and Buxton”s knee.  But next year his knee should be better and Taylor is a free agent.  With Kepler, Gallo and possibly Polanco coming off the books The Twins will have the money to extend Gray if the want.  Also I think the Twins will make a push to resign one of those OF probably Taylor.  He can be a platoon CF and back up LF and RF.  1B Killeroff, 2B Polanco SS Correa, 3B Lewis and Lee will be getting opportunities to come up next year and be full time 2B the following season.  You only want so many rookies starting at a time if you are planning on contending.  Lee can get some opportunities at DH too as can Wallner, and Julien if they are not in the OF.  

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    7 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

    and Miranda come up and plays awesome...

    Won't happen at 3B. Past performance at 3B suggests that Miranda is a .950 fielder both thru the minors as well as the majors. No reason to speculate on that one.

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    I say leave Lewis at 3B for the rest of this year.  I love his glove and especially his arm strength after watching Miranda sling slow sidearm throws to 1B earlier this year.  You need strong arms on the left side of the infield.

    Maybe we can package Miranda and one other for a solid RH corner outfielder to balance out the lineup.

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    5 hours ago, Linus said:

    If Buck cannot regularly play CF in the future then Lewis should move there. Get your best athletes at the premium defensive positions. 

    That would be ideal. CF is our biggest hole now and going forward. The second derivative is that Lewis in CF also opens up additional positional opportunities for others. As much as we all wish it would happen, it just doesn’t seem probable at all.

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    I dunno. To me, keeping Lewis in the infield this year is probably a done deal. If he adjusts to third as it appears he has, maybe it is best to keep him there. It will probably be a decision to be made after the team is done playing this season, hopefully in November. It isn't a guarantee that he will be a good or great outfielder and current need shouldn't figure in to what is best for the club long-term. 

    If Lewis plays close to 100 games at third this season, it will make him much more likely to stay there long term IMHO. I'm not 100% convinced that his arm is best-suited for third. There seems to be a wind up before he throws, but that would be the case at short, too.

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    7 hours ago, Nashvilletwin said:

    100% agree Ted.  Correa has been superb defensively and Lewis, in his brief recent appearances, has flashed both leather and arm.  Twins fans should not be losing any sleep over the left side of our infield hopefully for several years.

    Lewis at 3B sets the dominoes in motion. Lee, therefore, looks like the 2B of the future.  Ideally, Miranda and Julien battle it out for 1B and DH (when BB is unavailable). Miranda can sub at 3B and Julien at 2B when needed (and, btw, Lee and Lewis can sub at SS when CC needs a break). Kiriloff, Wallner and Larnach are your three corner outfielders with the occasional DH role against RH pitching. They all hit lefty, but with only Julien (and Gordon if he stays as a super sub utility player) a purely left handed bat among the rest of the team (Jeffers and Vasquez are both RH bats), it should be ok.  Now, we (sadly) need to find a CF of the future - ideally probably one who bats RH. Rodriguez? 

    I really like AK as the long-term answer at first base. I think he will hit enough to be a middle-of-the-order fixture and he will be a fine defensive first baseman, maybe the best lefthanded first baseman the Twins have ever had. Lee is a great prospect, but he looks to be at least a year away and who knows what will happen to Correa and Lewis in that year. If Lewis' and Correa's defense are too good to move them and Lee forces his way to the majors, the easiest adjustment would be to move Lee to second or maybe to an outfield corner.

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    I expect Lewis to be part of the future. This year I think it would be good for him to only play third. Let him learn the position at the major league level. he has made some plays(or not made the plays) that I think he will make with more experience at third. Let him grow into it.

    He needs to develop as a major league hitter. With only 65 at bats in the majors and only about 220 at bats since 2019 he will need a lot of work. Hopefully he won't slip so far as to need another trip to 3A.

    Keep him out of the outfield. He may be really good there, but the wall is looming and I prefer to keep him healthy and in the lineup regularly. We have more guys coming in the next 2 years that can fill center, if Buxton can't. Moving him around  the infield and outfield  does not settle a position for him or the team.

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    Wish people would quit writng Julien is the future for the Twins. In his trial his fielding was suspect and hitting was abysmal!! Nothing showed he can be the long term solution!!

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