Instant Reaction: Twins Pass on Trade Deadline

This team isn't going anywhere, so this isn't the worst thing Falvey has done. But it does reinforce that he should be fired after the season. He's had seven years. He's failed. Enough already. 

This team is going need to some very BIG moves in the offseason 

Any word on Kuechel decision? Depending on if his AAA numbers are a mirage that could be a big add to roster?(or absolutely nothing)

This FO is bad at buying.

Moving into the upper echelon of contenders (and I'm using that term lightly) wasn't the goal.

Shoring up a faltering pen and/or adding a RH bat was doable. Sure they can **** around and win this atrocious division without either, but doing nothing might be worse than selling SP or acquiring either of the above. 

I totally agree that no trade out there would have greatly improved this team.  And I agree the veterans on this team need to step up.  But we've been saying that all year.  Where are they?  They have a few games when the veterans play decently then go right back In the tank again.  They display no urgency, no leadership and no sense of direction.  Sure they will probably win the Junior Varsity Central division.  Big deal.  This team is going nowhere with the current roster. I really didn't anticipate them doing much.  My question is when will this FO and current coaches be held accountable?  The players don't appear to be held accountable why should the bosses I guess.

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We (Twins fans) will hope for some positive changes and the current roster could deliver a fun close to the season. It just seems very hard to expect Julien, Kirilloff, Wallner, Lewis, Jeffers, and Castro to lead this team. This is a heavy burden for inexperienced players. Kepler, Polanco, and Vasquez may turn up their contributions and I hope they do and soon. Kepelr has been better since the All Star break. Who knows? The two expected to lead, Correa and Buxton, have been at a level that it would be very surprising to see them reach their former star status, and yet we still hope for that miracle. The reserves (Farmer, Taylor, Solano) have been used way more than expected and seem worn down. The brilliant starting pitching has faded as well. The betting dollar belongs in your pocket and not placed on the Twins at this point of the year. The Royals just totally outplayed the Twins and swept them in three different styles of baseball. 

Yet, we as Twins fans will hope against reasonable odds that the current roster can perform in a positive way on a consistent basis. The Twins have a shot at winning the AL Central and closing out 2023 in a fun fashion. I'm not sure that Falvey believes in the team. But then again, I'm not sure what type of baseball or player the Twins see as the means to success. This may be that I refuse to believe that Joey Gallo is the model for 2023 baseball and the poster player for Falverball. I have been very complimentary of how serious and hard working Gallo has been as he attempts to lead the Twins. I just don't see him and his style of play as the type of baseball I want to see played by the Twins. 

St. Louis is a true baseball town and a great place for the Twins to find all of the aspects of baseball that make it a great game. Let us hope that the Twins players are rejuvenated by their visit to St. Louis and use it to drive them through the season. Falvey decided that the players on hand were a World Series team and now they need to show their game.

I expect adding payroll was an issue.   Probably not forecasting a strong gate for a 500 team, and Brent suter doesn't really draw.  Meanwhile the division looks ripe for the taking next year too even if Twins lower payroll a little with Larnach replacing Kepler, Miranda over gallo and Varland over Gray.  Probably have the Division for 24 and 25.

Pick a lane... Driving down the middle of the road is a poor idea! 

If going for the division and thinking this team has a chance to do something in the playoffs get some help. (delusional but ... ) 

If not and we know this team is not that good (reality) move our players that have value for the future run.. 

Doing neither is just like driving in down the middle of the road.. poor choice. 

44 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

This team isn't going anywhere, so this isn't the worst thing Falvey has done. But it does reinforce that he should be fired after the season. He's had seven years. He's failed. Enough already. 

Exactly, they should have dealt Gray or Maeda if they weren't going to do anything to improve the team.

They could have easily dealt one of them and still won the crappy division.

By its inaction the FO is saying that we wouldn't have been able to improve our roster at a reasonable price. They are saying that it's up to our current players to improve their performance. Now. So OK, guys, do it. Let's see what you got.

32 minutes ago, Brandon27 said:

This team is going need to some very BIG moves in the offseason 

Looks like they are gonna ride with this team and look to 2024. This team has potential, hell, it’s the same team that we came into the season with and like Seth stated if everyone is even playing close to their potential they will run away with this division as they should have from the get go. They will have to look around the room at each other knowing nobody is coming to save them and they will live and die with those same guys in the room. That’s intimidating for sure! But, could also pull a team together as well. If nothing else we’ll see who sinks and swims and the off-season and 2024 will become crystal clear since I guess it hasn’t already. 

11 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said:

By its inaction the FO is saying that we wouldn't have been able to improve our roster at a reasonable price. They are saying that it's up to our current players to improve their performance. Now. So OK, guys, do it. Let's see what you got.

Was the price for some of those available arms really unreasonable? I'd guess this FO didn't get the green light, which flies in the face of their public comments, but Idk how you look at the current pen, knowing that Stewart has a MRI today, and do nothing. 

"The reality is that this is a flawed team. If they want to truly be a contender for more than an AL Central title, today wasn't going to be the game changer."

I agree, but then they should have traded Maeda, Kepler, Polanco, Gallo (if possible and if not DFA), and Gray (if the return was better than the comp pick linked to the QO)

Doing nothing was the only true wrong answer and they managed to pull it off.... Congrats...or something.... 

This is an ultimatum to Rocco Baldelli. Win or you're fired.

Last year two significant moves (plus renting Sandy Leon) at the deadline frankly failed.  The Floro trade, although minor, could even fail.  Perhaps we should celebrate the fact that no additional failures were accumulated this season?

1 hour ago, Dman said:

I think it makes sense they stayed pat. They didn't really have much for difference makers that they could afford to trade and they couldn't really afford to pay with the few potential star players they might have on the farm to get anything of significant value.  

I will say I like what Cleveland did.  With a lot of their pitchers down already this year they took risks to get better next year and like the Twins will hope the players they have will step up down the stretch.  I really like that the Guardians FO has the balls to make moves for the future as well as stay in the present.

Chicago had a really good deadline as well.  Whether all those new pieces will work out is hard to say but what they had wasn't working so I like what they did as well.

The thing about this deadline is that is was really kind of a go big or go home deadline.  Some teams made minor moves but the teams really in it to win it made big, bold moves.  Still it will only work out for one team not all of them.

I will say I thought the team would move some players.  Nick Gordon will be back.  Lewis will be back.  They will most likely add Kuechel.  It seems they will need 40 man room at some point. Their bullpen is incredibly unreliable but I guess they can DFA their way there if needed I just thought they might try and clear the way by trying to get something for some of these guys but maybe no one was interested in this teams many under performers.  it is what it is.  Just have to hope this team turns things around in the second half.

Yes I hope there is some excitement from this team to finish the season , maybe a 10 plus winning streaks would help ...

To stand pat ...

Cleveland sold off pitcher and first basemen  so the FO probably decided  to stand pat and not trade for help cause we should win the division easily with a 500 record ...

Heck we could have traded 1 of gray or maeda ( pitching )  , Keplerfor something as his value has grown of late  and dfa Gallo  and still win the division with our younger players , the trades would have helped us reset for 2024 and beyond , but they stood pat when they should have traded for prospects because we can win the division with what we got but are going nowhere in the playoff unless we turn into the 2007 Colorado rockies and win 11 games in a row to end season and then sweep the nls /nlcs and get to the world series  , and then lose in 4 games to Boston  ...

We need angels in the outfield  ...