USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 We're really going with the theory the Twins traded Duran because he was due ~$8M next year? I'm down on this franchise but even I don't think they're THAT cheap. They paid Harrison Bader almost that. Vazquez MORE than that. Its only about $3M over MLB average salary. Well within ANY reasonable 2026 budget. Geez. nicksaviking, Rigby, Vanimal46 and 2 others 5
Unwinder Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, Patzky said: We already have third basemen pitching and first basemen playing second. Let's be the first nine catcher lineup! The combined defensive IQ will more than make up for any lack of fielding experience. Patzky and NotAboutWinning 2
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, USAFChief said: We're really going with the theory the Twins traded Duran because he was due ~$8M next year? I'm down on this franchise but even I don't think they're THAT cheap. They paid Harrison Bader almost that. Vazquez MORE than that. Its only about $3M over MLB average salary. Well within ANY reasonable 2026 budget. Geez. Yeah that belief feels like a way to cope with an underwhelming return more than anything. USAFChief 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Oh man, I forgot Abel was from a rival HS here in OR (I'm an assistant HS golf coach). I am liking this deal even less! :) nicksaviking 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, USAFChief said: We're really going with the theory the Twins traded Duran because he was due ~$8M next year? I'm down on this franchise but even I don't think they're THAT cheap. They paid Harrison Bader almost that. Vazquez MORE than that. Its only about $3M over MLB average salary. Well within ANY reasonable 2026 budget. Geez. Agreed. He was traded because the FO thinks Abel is an MLB caliber SP. Now we’ll see if their gamble is correct. In theory you trade a RP for a SP 10 times out of 10. Mike Sixel and Cory Engelhardt 2
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, Unwinder said: The combined defensive IQ will more than make up for any lack of fielding experience. All the throws will be right on target 🙅 Unwinder 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Just now, Vanimal46 said: Agreed. He was traded because the FO thinks Abel is an MLB caliber SP. Now we’ll see if their gamble is correct. In theory you trade a RP for a SP 10 times out of 10. I 100% believe money was an issue, but I agree with this part.
bunsen82 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 12 minutes ago, Squirrel said: I don’t think the return was great. I’m not as worried about peripherals. But yeah, they didn’t want to pay him. Still, I think it was a poor trade overall Say what you will, Levine on MLB Network said it was a pretty significant overpay this morning. We get emotionally attached to a lot of these players. I don't think there is many trades that could have occurred that many would have felt we were getting a fair or good deal for Duran, or if we trade Ryan or Jax. Chembry 1
NotAboutWinning Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 7 minutes ago, USAFChief said: We're really going with the theory the Twins traded Duran because he was due ~$8M next year? I'm down on this franchise but even I don't think they're THAT cheap. They paid Harrison Bader almost that. Vazquez MORE than that. Its only about $3M over MLB average salary. Well within ANY reasonable 2026 budget. Geez. Falvey & sons do not pay for bullpen arms.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 🚨🚨🚨🚨 We finally have a return for Brock Stewart 🚨🚨🚨🚨 OF James Outman Cory Engelhardt and SF Twins Fan 1 1
Road trip Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, bunsen82 said: Say what you will, Levine on MLB Network said it was a pretty significant overpay this morning. We get emotionally attached to a lot of these players. I don't think there is many trades that could have occurred that many would have felt we were getting a fair or good deal. Levine isn't exactly an unbiased observer on this one, given his long history working with Falvey.. I do agree that we get emotionally attached to some players, and Duran is likely one of them for many of us. There aren't many players on the roster that I go out of my way to pay extra attention to, but when Duran was in the game it was must see TV. bunsen82, Patzky, Squirrel and 1 other 4
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Just now, Vanimal46 said: 🚨🚨🚨🚨 We finally have a return for Brock Stewart 🚨🚨🚨🚨 OF James Outman Huh. Really.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Patzky said: Huh. Really. Don’t hate it honestly. For the crowd that wants immediate help, here ya go. Patzky and Cory Engelhardt 2
Road trip Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: 🚨🚨🚨🚨 We finally have a return for Brock Stewart 🚨🚨🚨🚨 OF James Outman Fix-it project. Was pretty good two years ago. Likely the starting LF for the duration of the year.
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Just now, Vanimal46 said: Don’t hate it honestly. For the crowd that wants immediate help, here ya go. They realized they needed to field a team tomorrow evening. Parfigliano and KirbyDome89 2
The Great Hambino Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: 🚨🚨🚨🚨 We finally have a return for Brock Stewart 🚨🚨🚨🚨 OF James Outman Oh good, I was worried they didn't have enough replacement-level LH outfielders I hope there's more to it SF Twins Fan 1
Unwinder Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 26 minutes ago, Squirrel said: I get Stewart but will never understand Duran I would have preferred to keep him, but I've got to imagine part of it is that they've already had incredible luck with him throwing 1,000,000 mph fastballs for the past few years without blowing out his elbow, and how long can they really expect that to keep up? Parfigliano and Patzky 2
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Just now, Road trip said: Fix-it project. Was pretty good two years ago. Likely the starting LF for the duration of the year. That .124 avg threatens Keirsey Unwinder 1
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: 🚨🚨🚨🚨 We finally have a return for Brock Stewart 🚨🚨🚨🚨 OF James Outman This FO loves their high risk low reward projects. He'll fit right into the batting order.... Rigby 1
bjorks Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 4 hours ago, SF Twins Fan said: Would they be able to bring back someone like a Bryce Mayer in a trade for Correa? Is that too low or too high? Probably directly related to how much $ the Twins kick in. You’re probably not getting a Top 100 guy, but Walked Janek (strong defensive catcher at high A) and Anderson Brito (A+ at age 21) is probably a high octane back of the bullpen arm would be a nice start if they have to pay $30MM to $45MM on his salary.
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Bobby Nightengale: The Twins are receiving OF James Outman for Brock Stewart. It’s a one-for-one deal. Outman, 28, is hitting .289 with 20 HR and 74 RBI in a hitter-friendly AAA league.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: 🚨🚨🚨🚨 We finally have a return for Brock Stewart 🚨🚨🚨🚨 OF James Outman A 28-year-old outfielder. That's perfect for a rebuilding team! At least he bats left handed, the Twins don't have any other outfielders who do that. SF Twins Fan, Parfigliano, USAFChief and 2 others 3 2
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: 🚨🚨🚨🚨 We finally have a return for Brock Stewart 🚨🚨🚨🚨 OF James Outman Between him and Kiersey == who is Worse , ?? might be a tie , makes zero sense
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: Don’t hate it honestly. For the crowd that wants immediate help, here ya go. That ship sailed when they traded Duran.
Dman Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 That .150 batting average aught to fit right in with this team. He has good speed, but with a pretty solid 35% k rate this doesn't seem that great to me. I think I would rather have Stewart back. SF Twins Fan 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: Don’t hate it honestly. For the crowd that wants immediate help, here ya go. by help you mean, about like Kiersey? Why would you deal anyone for this guy? Mind. Boggling. Negative fwar last year and this year. What is even the point of this deal? I am truly confused on this one. SF Twins Fan, Parfigliano and Dman 3
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, KirbyDome89 said: This FO loves their high risk low reward projects. He'll fit right into the batting order.... Maybe there’s something to tap into. 3 WAR player in 2023 when he was a full time starter for LA. Idk. Just grasping for straws. He’s at minimum Buxton insurance so we don’t have to scrap heap this winter for another Michael A Taylor type. Dman, Mike Sixel, NotAboutWinning and 3 others 6
bunsen82 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 4 minutes ago, Road trip said: Fix-it project. Was pretty good two years ago. Likely the starting LF for the duration of the year. Manuel Margot redux Do not love this at all. nicksaviking and Mike Sixel 2
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Adding bad veterans is literally 180 degrees from what I want this team to be doing. Parfigliano, Dman, SF Twins Fan and 2 others 4 1
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said: by help you mean, about like Kiersey? Why would you deal anyone for this guy? Mind. Boggling. Negative fwar last year and this year. What is even the point of this deal? I am truly confused on this one. I can tell you right now that Rocco Baldelli is going to love this deal. Another team's 28-year-old? He's going to play every day even if it comes at the expense of at bats for Wallner. USAFChief, Unwinder, Parfigliano and 1 other 4
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