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Christian Vázquez and Ryan Jeffers have provided stability behind the plate for the Twins over the last two seasons. With the front office looking to shake up the roster, though, is trading a catcher one way to balance the books?

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For the past two seasons, the Minnesota Twins have utilized a rotational approach at catcher, splitting time between Christian Vázquez and Ryan Jeffers. This tandem has benefited the team, keeping both players fresh over the grind of a 162-game season. However, the offensive inconsistencies of both players and the team’s payroll limitations have led to growing rumors that the Twins might part ways with one of their catchers. Could this be the offseason where Minnesota reshapes its catching situation?

The Value of the Rotation
In 2023 and 2024, the timeshare between Vázquez and Jeffers worked as intended. Vázquez’s veteran presence helped stabilize the pitching staff, while Jeffers showed flashes of his offensive upside, highlighted by a 133 OPS+ in 2023. Their regular availability allowed the team to focus on other areas of the roster and not worry about who was behind the plate on any given day.

This approach also allowed both catchers to stay healthy, a key factor considering the physical toll catching takes. Jeffers has had his share of injury concerns in the past, but splitting time allowed him to avoid the injured list for two straight seasons. Vázquez, meanwhile, brought stability to the role, though his offensive contributions have continued to decline; he's posted a 62 OPS+ in his two years with the Twins. He has never been considered a strong offensive player, but this is a nearly 20-point drop compared to his OPS+ for his career. 

Payroll Crunch and Trade Rumors
While the system has worked defensively, the financial side complicates the picture. Vázquez is set to earn $10 million in 2025, the final year of his contract. For a team already facing payroll constraints, that’s a hefty price for a catcher whose offensive production has dipped. Jeffers is projected to earn $4.7 million in arbitration. He offers a cheaper alternative, but has yet to prove he can handle the full workload of an everyday starter.  

The Twins are reportedly exploring trade opportunities, and Vázquez’s salary makes him the likelier candidate to be dealt. However, Jeffers has more trade value because he has multiple years of team control, comes at a cheaper cost, and has more offensive upside. But trading either catcher would leave Minnesota with a significant question: Who steps in to fill the void?

Is Jaír Camargo Ready?  
Jaír Camargo is the only other catcher currently on the Twins’ 40-man roster, but the team showed minimal trust in him during his brief stints in the majors last season. Despite having multiple stints at the big-league level, Camargo never started a game behind the plate, logging just seven plate appearances across five games. He went 0-for-6 with one walk and three strikeouts in a minimal sample.

The organization’s hesitation to use him as a catcher speaks volumes. Camargo has a reputation for having a strong arm and plus raw power at the plate, but concerns about his receiving and game-calling abilities likely explain his limited usage. With the Saints, he has worked with many of the organization’s top prospects, like David Festa and Zebby Matthews, so that might help him gain traction at the big-league level. He hit .212/.290/.403 with 16 doubles and 12 home runs in 75 games for Triple-A St. Paul in 2024. Whether the Twins believe those skills will translate to baseball’s highest level is unclear. 

What's the Catching Plan?  
If the Twins trade Vázquez, they must trust Camargo to step into a rotational role or acquire another catcher. Internal candidates like Ricardo Olivar or Noah Cardenas could eventually enter the conversation, but neither is likely ready for a significant role in 2025. The free-agent catching market is thin, and any trade involving Vázquez would likely need to include a veteran replacement.  

Alternatively, the Twins could lean more heavily on Jeffers as the primary catcher while using Camargo sparingly. This strategy would shift Jeffers into a role he has never held at the big-league level. Would the Twins risk such a move in a season where their margin for error feels razor-thin?  

Trading Vázquez could provide the Twins with financial flexibility to address other roster needs, but it comes with significant risks. Camargo’s readiness is a major question mark, and the Twins can’t afford a step back defensively at catcher. While Jeffers’s emergence as a potential everyday player is intriguing, it’s fair to wonder whether Minnesota’s catching tandem is worth breaking up. The team’s decision this offseason will send a clear message about its priorities heading into 2025.  


Do the Twins value continuity and defensive stability, or are they willing to gamble on a cheaper option? Will either catcher be traded? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.


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Posted

Great write up! 
Shaking up the catching corps doesn't feel wise and doesn't feel like it should be a priority. How many other teams made it through 162 last year with their 2 primary catchers playing every game? Probably not many? I understand Vazquez isn't earning his $10M, but to spend $15M between the 2 and cover 162 decently, not spectacularly, but decently, it just seems as if we have many other areas to be concerned with. The catching corps is currently not broken, and if we move either one, we open ourselves up for trouble in my opinion.

Posted

I was hoping they may have more time, and could have traded Vazquez and a young arm and $2M somewhere to acquire D’Arnauld as a free agent for $6M/yr ………would have had a 2 year plan and saved $2M/yr. and had better offense.

Even discussing Camargo as a potential option (other than emergency injury replacement) is silly to me. .298 OBP at AAA doesn’t translate to MLB consideration unless he’s elite behind the plate - he’s not. Not an option out of Spring Training or probably ever.

In a perfect world they trade Jeffers - Castro - Matthews - Paddack - Henriquez to AZ for their Catcher (Moreno) and Jordan Montgomery (Twins take on $12M). AZ gets rid of a mutually bad situation with Montgomery and they get value back!

Twins flip Montgomery to Red Sox along with Duran and another piece (Miranda?) for 1B Tristan Casas. To me, targeting Casas and doing whatever to achieve that end is worthwhile.

Pertinent here, solves Catcher issues! Also, saves $18.5M. The $$ saved and the individuals can change but the acquisition of those 2 guys allows Team to compete with anyone.

Posted

This might FEEL like digging to the bottom of the barrel. But the Padres left a catcher available in the rule 5 draft named Brandon Valenzuela. He played mostly at AA, and had 27 games at AAA for them this past year. His overall numbers were not strong, but he is apparently known more for his defense than his offense anyway. Fangraphs has him (as of July) as their #6 overall prospect, and MLB has him as their #12. Just thinking, if they were to move on from Vazquez (for example) I'd ALMOST rather than make a move for this guy (or take him in the rule 5 draft) compared to throwing 3 million at someone like Yan Gomes.

Maybe I'm crazy. Don't answer that.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=valenz001bra

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26 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

I was hoping they may have more time, and could have traded Vazquez and a young arm and $2M somewhere to acquire D’Arnauld as a free agent for $6M/yr ………would have had a 2 year plan and saved $2M/yr. and had better offense.

Even discussing Camargo as a potential option (other than emergency injury replacement) is silly to me. .298 OBP at AAA doesn’t translate to MLB consideration unless he’s elite behind the plate - he’s not. Not an option out of Spring Training or probably ever.

In a perfect world they trade Jeffers - Castro - Matthews - Paddack - Henriquez to AZ for their Catcher (Moreno) and Jordan Montgomery (Twins take on $12M). AZ gets rid of a mutually bad situation with Montgomery and they get value back!

Twins flip Montgomery to Red Sox along with Duran and another piece (Miranda?) for 1B Tristan Casas. To me, targeting Casas and doing whatever to achieve that end is worthwhile.

Pertinent here, solves Catcher issues! Also, saves $18.5M. The $$ saved and the individuals can change but the acquisition of those 2 guys allows Team to compete with anyone.

I'm not sure Arizona bites but this is an interesting idea. Can we substitute Cory Lewis or Marco Raya for Matthews? I would do this deal. It only costs the Twins about $4.1M (RJ-$4.7, WC-$6.2, CP-$7.5, JM-$22.5).

Your follow up trade suggestion will be rejected by both Boston and myself. Casas has light tower power (think Wallner), and the Red Sox have placed a high price on their youngster. He is also brutal as a first baseman. Correa nixes that deal. Both Julien and Miranda would be better at first defensively and that is crazy to think about. The Twins need to upgrade their defense. 

Back to the post - The article is correct when it highlights that the Twins have benefitted from stability from the catching position. Changing things up would be proactive which many people oppose. Before removing either catcher from the Twins roster a catcher must be in hand though. Can't play baseball without a catcher.

JD-Twins is right on with an idea to improve the catching situation. I would propose the Twins seek another young catcher as well because their organization is largely bereft of backstops. Just riffing off of the JD-Twins idea, perhaps Milwaukee can be enticed to exchange Jeferson Quero for a controlled young starting pitcher, SWR.

One can only hope that the Twins don't wait out the market this time.

Posted
38 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

This might FEEL like digging to the bottom of the barrel. But the Padres left a catcher available in the rule 5 draft named Brandon Valenzuela. He played mostly at AA, and had 27 games at AAA for them this past year. His overall numbers were not strong, but he is apparently known more for his defense than his offense anyway. Fangraphs has him (as of July) as their #6 overall prospect, and MLB has him as their #12. Just thinking, if they were to move on from Vazquez (for example) I'd ALMOST rather than make a move for this guy (or take him in the rule 5 draft) compared to throwing 3 million at someone like Yan Gomes.

Maybe I'm crazy. Don't answer that.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=valenz001bra

I was looking into Joey Bart (SF) last offseason. PIT picked him up for practically nothing. & he became their best catcher last season. I like Valenzuela much better than Camargo but I still don't trust him as a backup catcher. But I'd be open to picking him up & let him season a bit in AAA to work on his hitting. He has potential.

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1 minute ago, Doctor Gast said:

I was looking into Joey Bart (SF) last offseason. PIT picked him up for practically nothing. & he became their best catcher last season. I like Valenzuela much better than Camargo but I still don't trust him as a backup catcher. 

Totally fair. I just figured this would be a cheap way to add the potential for someone to their catching corps. They certainly could go another direction. I guess I'd prefer a veteran as a backup, but like you said, taking a young guy can work out at times.

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They should trade Vasquez IF they can find a willing partner, which is doubtful given his salary, unless they pay a portion of it. They can’t trade Jeffers, as that would leave Vasquez as a starter who struggles to hit .220 with little power and lots of strikeouts. 

Posted

It's not often that a team can go through a full season with two catchers and both staying healthy.  The Twins have done it for two years in a row.  Can that last?  I wouldn't be against keeping both for 2025 for the stability.  But sooner or later they are going to have to come up with some decent catching prospects or pay for a free agent catcher again.  My preference would be to try to trade for Teel(no idea what it would take).  IMO Camargo is AAA for emergency callup only.  Time to start drafting and developing young catchers.  We drafted a couple last year.  Do the Twins feel they will someday be MLB caliber.  I am also on the list of people who think playing both Jeffers and Vasquez at the same time with one being DH is poor managing.  Neither should be DHing, especially Vasquez.  By eating Vaszuez's salary for one more year at least gives us an acceptable catching tandem for 2025 and one more year to figure something else out.  But upgrading for 2025 would be optimal if it's Vasquez they can trade.  The paltry self-imposed salary is the biggest problem.  Maybe we could get a loan from the Dodgers with deferred payments.

Posted

No they can't shake up their catching corps. 

If they are able to trade Vazquez... they most likely have to eat some money or include prospect value to amke it happen. I don't believe they can put the full 10 million in their pocket. 

If they trade Vazquez and get some money to spend. Let's say 7 million to spend. They will have to spend that 7 million to get someone decent because CATCHERS COST A LOT. 

If they all of sudden say... we will take that 7 million and spend it elsewhere... that's great. I could get behind that but I have one big problem with that scenerio.

Here's the problem. Camargo is all of sudden the guy. The same guy who sat for 20 plus games and couldn't get a sniff of the lineup card while Vazquez was deemed not replaceable while compiling an OPS of .575. 

Camargo couldn't clear that low bar without damaging the Twins chances to win last year but this year he won't be a drain on the teams chances to win ball games for some reason.

Trading Vazquez to install Camargo would be a bunch of bull crap based on how they handled catching last year.

Yet... Here Camargo is... once again taking up 40 man roster space as the primary option and the Twins have already told everyone that they don't think he can improve a .575 OPS hitting catcher draining 10 million out of severely depleted funds. . 

So... to answer the question. No the Twins are not ready to shake up their catching corps. They were too busy locking in to the current catching corps. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

No they can't shake up their catching corps. 

If they are able to trade Vazquez... they most likely have to eat some money or include prospect value to amke it happen. I don't believe they can put the full 10 million in their pocket. 

If they trade Vazquez and get some money to spend. Let's say 7 million to spend. They will have to spend that 7 million to get someone decent because CATCHERS COST A LOT. 

If they all of sudden say... we will take that 7 million and spend it elsewhere... that's great. I could get behind that but I have one big problem with that scenerio.

Here's the problem. Camargo is all of sudden the guy. The same guy who sat for 20 plus games and couldn't get a sniff of the lineup card while Vazquez was deemed not replaceable while compiling an OPS of .575. 

Camargo couldn't clear that low bar without damaging the Twins chances to win last year but this year he won't be a drain on the teams chances to win ball games for some reason.

Trading Vazquez to install Camargo would be a bunch of bull crap based on how they handled catching last year.

Yet... Here Camargo is... once again taking up 40 man roster space as the primary option and the Twins have already told everyone that they don't think he can improve a .575 OPS hitting catcher draining 10 million out of severely depleted funds. . 

So... to answer the question. No the Twins are not ready to shake up their catching corps. They were too busy locking in to the current catching corps. 

Exactly this!
We have one more year to ride out the Vazquez decision we made 3 years ago. Trying to undo it now opens us up to trouble if Jeffers breaks a leg in April. 

Posted
12 minutes ago, Otaknam said:

They should trade Vasquez IF they can find a willing partner, which is doubtful given his salary, unless they pay a portion of it. They can’t trade Jeffers, as that would leave Vasquez as a starter who struggles to hit .220 with little power and lots of strikeouts. 

Yeah, but Vazquez's framing and defense are superior to what Jeffers has shown. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, In My La Z boy said:

Exactly this!
We have one more year to ride out the Vazquez decision we made 3 years ago. Trying to undo it now opens us up to trouble if Jeffers breaks a leg in April. 

Even if we don't undo it now.

It opens us up to trouble if Jeffers breaks his leg in April. 😎

Posted
8 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

Yeah, but Vazquez's framing and defense are superior to what Jeffers has shown. 

Please tell me this was supposed to be funny.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

Yeah, but Vazquez's framing and defense are superior to what Jeffers has shown. 

I never really understand this point. I understand the value of defense but I never really understand this point. 

Surely there is another catcher somewhere in the universe who can frame pitches and can't hit a lick. Maybe it's a young catcher who holds the bat cow-handed and closes his eyes when he swings but the guy can play D. Surely this guy is out there somewhere and ready to make the major league minimum.  

If framing and defense at the catching position with absolutely no offense at all is worth 10 million a year.

FRONT OFFICES... please take your catching prospects with defensive skill, coach them up and advance them up the ladder as quickly as possible. Bat skills are not necessary. 😉  

Posted

"Alternatively, the Twins could lean more heavily on Jeffers as the primary catcher while using Camargo sparingly. This strategy would shift Jeffers into a role he has never held at the big-league level."

Yes, in '22 after trading away Garver & Rortvedt, Jeffers was handed primary catching duties with Sanchez look to as mainly DH & emergency catcher. Jeffers crashed very quickly & not able to handle the physical demands, ended up on the IL. '23 He was declared postseason catcher & caught the whole postseason & didn't do very well.

As a backup. In the shortened '20 he had a very good season. In '23 he had even better season.

As a slightly more used in tandem. '21 he did very poorly & '24 he waned as the season dragged on.

In summary, contrary to what Falvey wants us to believe, Jeffers isn't a primary catcher, he's better used as a backup. Twins need at least a starting catcher & the Twins cupboard is bare. As we should know FA catching is very expensive even for a backup catcher. We are wasting our time with Jeffers & soon he'll want as a Boras client a very hefty extension for a backup catcher. Jeffers isn't our future so trade him yesterday. Although his value has dropped considerably from last year, he's still worth something to help us land a future catcher.

We'll end up losing terribly trying to trade Vazquez with a big Fire Sale sign on his back. We'll have to eat a good chunk of that money & then losing money trying to find an expensive inferior catcher in FA. To answer your question "Are the Twins ready to shake up the catching?" They shook things up in '22 & they haven't recovered from it. They have put   a Band-Aid on it but now they want to rip it off. Ready or not they have to fix the problem they caused.

Posted

No - they cannot really gain financial relief as one of the commentators points out.  We would have to include money because of Vasquez inflated contract so what is the gain?  If we trade Jeffers we have Camargo and Vasquez as a tandem - that sounds awful.

We have some young prospects - let's hope that when we let Vasquez go as a FA in another year we have one of them ready.

Catching is one of the most difficult positions to fill.  We can concentrate on other issues for now.

As the electric strike zone becomes more probable (2026?) it will be the comfort of the pitcher and the ability to call a good game that will count. 

Little League University has this great quote: "“Catchers have to learn how to use their voice back there,” said Mr. Sarow. The catcher is the only player who starts a play in foul territory and has the perspective to survey the entire field. He/she must be aware of the base runners, and where the defense is set up."  

RYAN WEISS The ability to throw accurately is one of the most important skills that a catcher must possess. The primary purpose of the catcher is to catch the pitches that the pitcher threw, and there are many situations in which they are required to throw the ball. One example of this is when a batter bunts the ball.

Posted

Are they ready? Not today. But they're going to have to after this season whether they're ready or not. So they better start figuring out what their plan is for the future, because it isn't currently in the system and they don't have any money to go get it after the season. 

As much as I hate watching them sit a hot hitter every other day for a horrid hitter, it's hard to argue with the health results of the catcher rotation the last 2 years. If they can get 2 catchers who aren't black holes at the plate and keep them both healthy with that strategy they could be in a really nice place. But they're going to have to swing a trade to get some catching at the top of the system before 2026 because they have nothing right now.

Posted

The difference between a 10M back up catcher and a 1M back up catcher tends to be negligible. Still, getting rid of Vazquez and basically doing nothing with the savings just because ownership has some magic payroll number doesn't turn me on at all.

I'm not sure why anyone wants to get rid of Jeffers though. Even if he was just average, that's more than fine with this position.

I'm also not going to assume Camargo can't cut it just because Baldelli refused to use him. Maybe he is terrible, but Baldelli ALWAYS avoids using the young players until he's no longer able to. So his lack of usage means next to nothing.

Posted
31 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

I never really understand this point. I understand the value of defense but I never really understand this point. 

Surely there is another catcher somewhere in the universe who can frame pitches and can't hit a lick. Maybe it's a young catcher who holds the bat cow-handed and closes his eyes when he swings but the guy can play D. Surely this guy is out there somewhere and ready to make the major league minimum.  

If framing and defense at the catching position with absolutely no offense at all is worth 10 million a year.

FRONT OFFICES... please take your catching prospects with defensive skill, coach them up and advance them up the ladder as quickly as possible. Bat skills are not necessary. 😉  

The first filter on catcher defense is pop time to 2B. If you can't get your pop time down to a reasonable level, then every runner who gets on base makes it to 3B. This is one reason why position-switching in WAR as a basis for catcher replacement level doesn't work. People who can play C can often defend elsewhere but the reverse is not true. If you move your 1B to catcher, then every leadoff walk is a leadoff triple two pitches later.

The second filter on catcher defense might, ironically, be how well they hit. If a player can really hit the ball, he will be moved off catcher to a less demanding defensive position so the team can have the bat in the lineup every day.

The third filter is handling the pitcher - game calling, blocking, framing. You can offload pitch calling to the coaching staff if needed but not blocking pitches and keeping the runners from advancing. If we see automated balls and strikes you will see catchers change their stance to help with blocking and pop time. They won't care about framing low pitches anymore.

Posted

Upgrading at Catcher is should be far down the list of priorities for the Twins this offseason.  If something falls into their laps, then they would take a look, but this is probably a non-starter.

They will scrap-heap another 4A catcher or two this offseason for insurance.

Posted

Ty France has indicated that he's interested in moving to catcher. His bat doesn't play at 1B anymore, but it would be fine for a catcher. I would be willing to put him in St. Paul and give him that opportunity.

Posted
3 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

The first filter on catcher defense is pop time to 2B. If you can't get your pop time down to a reasonable level, then every runner who gets on base makes it to 3B. This is one reason why position-switching in WAR as a basis for catcher replacement level doesn't work. People who can play C can often defend elsewhere but the reverse is not true. If you move your 1B to catcher, then every leadoff walk is a leadoff triple two pitches later.

The second filter on catcher defense might, ironically, be how well they hit. If a player can really hit the ball, he will be moved off catcher to a less demanding defensive position so the team can have the bat in the lineup every day.

The third filter is handling the pitcher - game calling, blocking, framing. You can offload pitch calling to the coaching staff if needed but not blocking pitches and keeping the runners from advancing. If we see automated balls and strikes you will see catchers change their stance to help with blocking and pop time. They won't care about framing low pitches anymore.

I understand all of this. I'm not diminishing the need for a catcher with defensive abilities. 

What I don't understand is the thought that Vazquez is somehow not replaceable... necessary to the health of the bull club because of his defensive abilities. 

Surely there is some catcher who can play defense and not hit a bit out there in the universe that can play for the league minimum. 

If Good Defense and horrible hitting costs 10 million and can't be replaced. How much is it going to cost to find someone with good defense and good hitting?  

 

 

Posted
57 minutes ago, Heiny said:

Please tell me this was supposed to be funny.

If you take catching seriously and bother to compare their defensive skills you will see who is the better catcher.  I'll put money on who our pitchers prefer to have behind the dish.

His last name ends with Z. 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, mrcharlie said:

If you take catching seriously and bother to compare their defensive skills you will see who is the better catcher.  I'll put money on who our pitchers prefer to have behind the dish.

His last name ends with Z. 

 

The pitchers get who the get and they won't throw a fit.

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