More free nationally televised Twins games!

[DJL44]

MLB is coming to Roku at noon on Sunday for the rest of the season for free! 

Twins will play on the following Sundays:

6/2 vs Houston

7/21 vs Milwaukee

9/15 vs Cincinnati

If they put This Week in Baseball on before the games that would be perfect.

 

[Benchwarmerjim]

While not free, Tuesday (5/14) Twins-Yankees game is on TBS

[Riverbrian]

This is going to sound like a bitter old man talking but... not out of bitterness... out of pure principle.

I'm not going to beg for scraps. 

If the Twins don't care if I'm able to see all games... eventually I'll stop caring. 

I will not apply band-aids to my wounds because I'm caught in the middle of two companies throwing rocks at each other.

If I am not able to watch the Twins on the cable that I purchased by June 2nd... I really don't think I will have the energy to bother with a free download. 

Once a permanent solution is identified by the Twins. I will make my allocation decision.

I'll tell you all one thing. 

It'll be one or the other. The Twins and Cable won't both get my money. If I cut the cord... I'm cutting it. If I stay with cable and the Twins are not on it. So be it. 

[Old Twins Cap]

Pretty hard to watch a full baseball game on TV on a regular basis.  This is what MLB needs to understand.  They have a product that can't hold an audience fully. 

How do they respond?

They make it harder to find games on any platform?

That's what you call a critically awful decision.

If they don't address that quickly, they will lose a full generation of fans and maybe more.

[DJL44]

I cut the cord many years ago so I'm happy that I can watch a few games. I'm willing to make the games that are available appointment viewing. I hope to see all 3 Apple TV games, the FOX game and these 3 Roku games. That only adds up to 7 but that's still more games than I watched for the Vikings, Timberwolves and Wild combined in the past year. I think tomorrow's Yankees game is supposed to be available on Amazon Prime but I don't know if it will be blacked out.

I'm also excited that there will be a free, nationally televised game available every Sunday at noon. They brought back the Sunday game of the week on free TV. I have no complaints about that.

[DJL44]

5 hours ago, Old Twins Cap said:

If they don't address that quickly, they will lose a full generation of fans and maybe more.

I think they already did.

Chart: Is Baseball for Boomers? | Statista

[TwinsDr2021]

1 minute ago, DJL44 said:

I think they already did.

Chart: Is Baseball for Boomers? | Statista

Wait so over complicated stats that don't always match up with the eye test, high costs to attend and not having games available to see is hurting the attendance with the younger audience? Strange! /s

[Brock Beauchamp]

I don't like this primarily because Roku is so device-limited. Even if I want to watch the app, it's not readily available using my current setup.

I was wary of Apple TV+ for this same reason but Apple has been pretty device-agnostic with that service. Roku is even more limited than ATV+.

[DJL44]

5 minutes ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

Wait so over complicated stats that don't always match up with the eye test

It has nothing to do with the statistics. Every sport has complicated statistics now.

[DJL44]

5 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I don't like this primarily because Roku is so device-limited. Even if I want to watch the app, it's not readily available using my current setup.

The Roku Channel now available for free on web!

[Brock Beauchamp]

Just now, DJL44 said:

The Roku Channel now available for free on web!

I have two massive TVs in my house, I'm not going to sit on a laptop and watch the game. Chasing down streams in a freakin' browser is not what I consider "readily available" in the year of two thousand and twenty four.

[DJL44]

55 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I have two massive TVs in my house, I'm not going to sit on a laptop and watch the game. Chasing down streams in a freakin' browser is not what I consider "readily available" in the year of two thousand and twenty four.

You have two massive TVs and no way to cast video over the Wi-Fi in your house? That seems really odd to me for 2024. I suggest buying a $20 Roku streaming device on Amazon. I use mine all the time to stream my daughter's college softball games from the college website to the TV over my home Wi-Fi. In this case, however, you could just plug in the Roku and use it to stream free MLB games every Sunday.

[Brock Beauchamp]

3 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

You have two massive TVs and no way to cast video over the Wi-Fi in your house? That seems really odd to me for 2024. I suggest buying a $20 Roku streaming device on Amazon. I use mine all the time to stream my daughter's college softball games from the college website to the TV over my home Wi-Fi. In this case, however, you could just plug in the Roku and use it to stream free MLB games every Sunday.

I can stream and I can cast and I can do whatever, I'm just saying that's a decade-old methodology that shouldn't be a requirement in the modern age.

And "buying a Roku" is exactly my issue with this agreement. I already own Apple TVs and a Chromecast; device-restricted apps are a crappy solution and MLB shouldn't agree to it, not with their already-ridiculous television situation.

[USAFChief]

These games better not be Roku-only. I better get them on MLB.tv.

[DJL44]

Just now, Brock Beauchamp said:

I already own Apple TVs and a Chromecast; device-restricted apps are a crappy solution and MLB shouldn't agree to it, not with their already-ridiculous television situation.

So bring up the Roku website on your laptop and stream to your Apple TV or Chromecast. This seems way easier than you're making it out to be.

Cable is a 50-year-old method of delivering the games that requires special equipment and an expensive subscription. That seems WAY worse to me than streaming a free game over my Wi-Fi.

[DJL44]

5 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

These games better not be Roku-only. I better get them on MLB.tv.

Because you can only login to one streaming service? They're free! This is about as hard as changing the channel is for cable.

[USAFChief]

1 minute ago, DJL44 said:

Because you can only login to one streaming service? They're free! This is about as hard as changing the channel is for cable.

I don't want roku. I've paid for mlb.tv. **** roku.

[DJL44]

Some days I'm surprised the people who post here are able to login to TwinsDaily.

[TwinsDr2021]

1 hour ago, DJL44 said:

It has nothing to do with the statistics. Every sport has complicated statistics now.

the stats I am talking about is the ones that are expected or projected, the ones that tell people their lying eyes are not seeing what they are seeing. I am not talking about Launch angle, exit velocity and WAR or stuff like that.

The NFL stats are basically counting stats and rating stats, not stats that say the QB that threw 2 interceptions and a bunch of incomplete passes, played really well based on what should have happened on those plays.

Not sure about Hockey or NBA but the little I watch I don't hear the people telling me how well people played based on expectations when the player obviously didn't have a great game.  

[Twinsrtheworst]

To me it's like most things in life...just a matter of perspective.  Just can't make some people happy as they will only see the downside...and yes I get everything has a downside.  Since we share our opinions on here this is mine.  I will continue to support and purchase the Twins "product".  I enjoy baseball and am willing to pay for it if I can.  To each there own.  Others not choosing to do so is there pergrogitive.  Doesn't need to be a devisive issue.  Do or do not.

[chpettit19]

1 hour ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

the stats I am talking about is the ones that are expected or projected, the ones that tell people their lying eyes are not seeing what they are seeing. I am not talking about Launch angle, exit velocity and WAR or stuff like that.

The NFL stats are basically counting stats and rating stats, not stats that say the QB that threw 2 interceptions and a bunch of incomplete passes, played really well based on what should have happened on those plays.

Not sure about Hockey or NBA but the little I watch I don't hear the people telling me how well people played based on expectations when the player obviously didn't have a great game.  

You're missing out on a lot of NFL "stats" if you don't think they have "stats" that say the QB that threw 2 interceptions and a bunch of incomplete passes played really well based on what should have happened on those plays. PFF is a company because they produce "stats" like that. Just like Sports Info Solutions does for baseball, football, and basketball. The NHL has some as well, but I'm not well versed in the options there.

Welcome to the new world of data and player tracking. Baseball is the most advanced in all this because the game is easier to tie these "stats" to individual players. But every league has them.

As for the topic at hand, I am glad to see MLB is making at least slight progress on making their game available to more people in the way most people are consuming entertainment these days. It's not major, but it's at least movement in the right direction.

[bean5302]

2 hours ago, DJL44 said:

So bring up the Roku website on your laptop and stream to your Apple TV or Chromecast. This seems way easier than you're making it out to be...

Agreed. If you already have Chromecast/Apple TV, there's no real wall to casting the Roku channel from a laptop/mobile device. onto the TV. 

2 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Because you can only login to one streaming service? They're free! This is about as hard as changing the channel is for cable.

vs. 

2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

I don't want roku. I've paid for mlb.tv. **** roku.

In this instance, I agree with Chief's sentiments. Not everybody wants 2,371 log ins/user IDs/companies with data breaches tracking your every move and selling the information to any willing buyers (that is when your data isn't being stolen and sold on the black market). Chief paid for a service. It would be nice for the service to work rather than saying, hey, our service doesn't work anymore so buy a new service or let them sell/lose all your data (which is the same as buying). 

It's still a mixed bag of issues. Some arguments are more valid than others, but baseball's TV situation is a catastrophe. Like any software design, increasing complexity is always, ALWAYS a negative. The question is whether or not the increased complexity is offset by increased functionality. This Roku thing really doesn't fix the problem in any meaningful way so it's probably a net negative IMHO.

[DJL44]

20 hours ago, Benchwarmerjim said:

While not free, Tuesday (5/14) Twins-Yankees game is on TBS

Looks like it is blacked out in the Twins viewing area.

[Vanimal46]

1 hour ago, DJL44 said:

Looks like it is blacked out in the Twins viewing area.

Yep, it is. Rob Manfred can go pound sand. 

[USAFChief]

2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

Agreed. If you already have Chromecast/Apple TV, there's no real wall to casting the Roku channel from a laptop/mobile device. onto the TV. 

vs. 

In this instance, I agree with Chief's sentiments. Not everybody wants 2,371 log ins/user IDs/companies with data breaches tracking your every move and selling the information to any willing buyers (that is when your data isn't being stolen and sold on the black market). Chief paid for a service. It would be nice for the service to work rather than saying, hey, our service doesn't work anymore so buy a new service or let them sell/lose all your data (which is the same as buying). 

It's still a mixed bag of issues. Some arguments are more valid than others, but baseball's TV situation is a catastrophe. Like any software design, increasing complexity is always, ALWAYS a negative. The question is whether or not the increased complexity is offset by increased functionality. This Roku thing really doesn't fix the problem in any meaningful way so it's probably a net negative IMHO.

Yup, Further splintering the methods needed to watch the Twins is not the answer.

 

 

[Mike Sixel]

5 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

Wait so over complicated stats that don't always match up with the eye test, high costs to attend and not having games available to see is hurting the attendance with the younger audience? Strange! /s

What do statistics matter for watching a game or not? I've never understood this. 

[TwinsDr2021]

11 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

What do statistics matter for watching a game or not? I've never understood this. 

Do you watch games with teenagers or watch with people in their mid 20's? My son is 16 and my daughters boyfriend is 26? I watch and have watched games with both of them and their friends, and that is by far and away their biggest compliant of the games.  As old guys we can b!tch and moan about the younger fans and why they are aren't watching baseball but as the link I originally replied to at this rate base is a dying sport if they can't figure out a way to get the young people engaged.

[TwinsDr2021]

14 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

You're missing out on a lot of NFL "stats" if you don't think they have "stats" that say the QB that threw 2 interceptions and a bunch of incomplete passes played really well based on what should have happened on those plays. PFF is a company because they produce "stats" like that. Just like Sports Info Solutions does for baseball, football, and basketball. The NHL has some as well, but I'm not well versed in the options there.

Welcome to the new world of data and player tracking. Baseball is the most advanced in all this because the game is easier to tie these "stats" to individual players. But every league has them.

As for the topic at hand, I am glad to see MLB is making at least slight progress on making their game available to more people in the way most people are consuming entertainment these days. It's not major, but it's at least movement in the right direction.

My comment wasn't about me, it was about the link posted and age of baseball fans.

[TwinsDr2021]

12 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

What do statistics matter for watching a game or not? I've never understood this. 

I will add my son decided not to watch the game last night, after seeing the starting lineup, he said to me another game where the hottest guys are not playing, then he asked me to tell him with Soto and Judge where up. As a baseball fan their are a couple of options to say to him, one that is to say you are just not smart enough to understand the genius of baseball or try to explain why the Twins set the lineup that way and that Margot somehow is in the game is an advantage, neither are great ways to lure the next generation to the game.

[Old Twins Cap]

14 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Looks like it is blacked out in the Twins viewing area.

Turns out, that was a game not worth watching.  Even the highlights weren't worth it.