Front Page: Trade Deadline: What if the Twins Do Nothing?

[Mike Frasier Law]

Still a lot of intriguing arms out that need to be traded. half hour to go and I haven't lost hope yet...

[yarnivek1972]

This reminds me of 2001. The Twins traded for a closer and a starter a couple days before the deadline. But getting the starter cost them their leadoff hitter, Matt Lawton. Ortiz and Guzman were already hurt. Doug Mientkiewicz remembered that he was Doug Mientkiewicz after doing an impersonation of Rod Carew for two months. The offense was scuffling, bad. The common wisdom (as I recall, the main messgage board in those days was on espn) was that the Twins were going to trade away some surplus OF prospects for Shannon Stewart or Brian Hunter.

 

Suffice to say, that didn’t happen.

[USAFChief]

Angry wouldn't be the right word for me.

 

Disappointed would be appropriate.

 

I have no idea what is happening on those telephone calls but I try to imagine being on the other end of the line.

 

If I'm the GM of the other team and the Twins are calling me about player X.

 

I'm going to ask for the top of the prospects. The Twins have Lewis, Kiriloff, Graterol and I'm going to ask for them. Maybe player X is Larnach value but I'm going to ask for higher because I know the Twins have better.

 

However, other teams that call me, may not have a Lewis or Kiriloff type talent to ask for. So the top of that pile is more in line with the value of player X and I can't hold out for more because there isn't more, besides seeing if the Twins or Astros cave with those really high end guys.

 

In a nutshell, weather I'm right or wrong, I can see a scenario where the Twins can be handicapped in this process because they have better players available to ask and hold out for, when other teams may not.

 

I wouldn't be angry because I can imagine a lot of things at play but yeah... Disappointed for sure. They need to support this team and we had a cannonball roll through the bullpen in July.

so...the problem is the Twins minor league system is too good??

 

Gotta admit, I hadn't thought of that angle.

 

Seems like an easy fix though.

[pbrezeasap]

My wife called me at work to complain about the Twins not having made any trades. She became a fan through marriage and I would consider her a little more than just a casual fan, but she has never really paid attention to the trade deadline very much. If she is past disappointment and into anger territory there better be something in the works.

[TouchEmAllGuy]

You'd think one rumor would have slipped out by now for the Twins. Not a chirp

[Mike Sixel]

I'm the only volunteer at the food shelf this afternoon.... So I'll miss the live version of this thread for a bit..... I'm not sure if that is good or bad...

[ScooterDance]

I mean nobody slipped out the rumor about Diplan so it’s clear they run a tight ship for these big moves.

[bighat]

Tried to embed a tweet, clearly you can't just cut and paste the embed code here.

 

Anyway, Wolfson reports Twins are "optimistic" they will get another deal done.

 

(fixed it for you - Brock)

 

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1156641457702428672

Edited July 31, 2019 by Brock Beauchamp

[In My La Z boy]

I see we missed out on John Ryan Murphy today. And it keeps getting worse

Edited July 31, 2019 by In My La Z boy

[Mike Sixel]

I see we missed out of John Ryan Murphy today. And it keeps getting worse

I didn't know he was still in baseball!

[TwinsFanSince86]

Sigh...

 

Beyond disappointed.

 

Can't wait to hear how the poor Twins were only met with unreasonably high asking prices while other contenders had no such issues.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Okay, starting to get pretty mad.

[jud6312]

 

I hope the next homestand starts out with a healthy round of boos from the crowd as the team takes the field.

 

I hope they reserve that in case they happen to show Falvine on the big screens. No reason to take it out on guys that would probably love to see some reinforcements come aboard.

[TwinsFanSince86]

They're optimistic.

 

LOL.

 

The spin starts. Thought they had something close and then it fell apart last minute and they didn't have enough time to pursue other deals.

 

Wait for it.

[nicksaviking]

 

Tried to embed a tweet, clearly you can't just cut and paste the embed code here.

 

Anyway, Wolfson reports Twins are "optimistic" they will get another deal done.

 

(fixed it for you - Brock)

 

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1156641457702428672

 

Hmmm, that was Tweeted one minute before the Diplan trade?

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

They're optimistic.

LOL.

The spin starts. Thought they had something close and then it fell apart last minute and they didn't have enough time to pursue other deals.

Wait for it.

They can spin it however they want, I don't see this fanbase taking the bait.

[twins1095]

The Twins were so impressed by another team and GM's acquisition strategy that they took a page from the same book.  That team.... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the Timberwolves and Gerson Rosas.

Edited July 31, 2019 by twins1095

[Brock Beauchamp]

We have 19 minutes to trade for the Mets GM because, hey, at least that guy is entertaining.

[TwinsFanSince86]

They can spin it however they want, I don't see this fanbase taking the bait.

Nor should they. I'm over the excuses and the close but no cigar moral victories that they keep trying to sell to the fans.

[mendozaline]

If the Twins don't make any moves the only bright side is that none of the other AL favorites have either besides CLE. Trying to look on the bright side..

[psturnbloom]

Get the women and children into the boats

[TwinsFanSince86]

If the Twins don't make any moves the only bright side is that none of the other AL favorites have either besides CLE. Trying to look on the bright side..

The Yankeea and Houston don't have to make any moves to beat the Twins. That's the difference.

[dex8425]

Joel sherman on the MLBN just now: "Where are the Twins?"

[South Dakota Tom]

17 minutes (and like most soccer games, this one goes "extra time" to announce deals) is plenty of time.  Plenty.  plen.....

[yarnivek1972]

If the Twins don't make any moves the only bright side is that none of the other AL favorites have either besides CLE. Trying to look on the bright side..

Yeah, just the team that is 1 game behind them in the standings.

[gunnarthor]

So, in 2017 the FO tried to move Dozier, overplayed their hand, planted obvious rumors in the media to try and drive up his trade value, failed and then in July they traded away talent on a team that made the playoffs. The best return was (checks notes) Zack Littel. 

 

In 2018, they made a good trade (Odorizzi) and it looks like the Yankees might have fleeced them in the Jake Cave trade (Gil is #4 prospect in Yankees org). They also traded away a draft pick and $ to the Padres to get out of paying Phil Hughes. They made several deadline deals that are too early to judge fairly but the Pressly trade looks bad while Dozier/Escobar look ok. 

 

Maybe the FO just isn't good at trading? Maybe ownership is pushing back more on payroll than we know?

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I called it. I knew the FO was going to **** the bed. Get ready for a bullpen of Romo, Rogers, and the Twins AAA bullpen in the playoffs. Pathetic.

http://twinsdaily.com/topic/34237-trade-deadline-discussions-please-read/

[South Dakota Tom]

Is this like "Sugar Rush" where they have to put down the spatulas (phones) at 3?  Who keeps the clock on this?

[yarnivek1972]

The Yankeea and Houston don't have to make any moves to beat the Twins. That's the difference.

The Yankees probably do to beat Houston.

[mendozaline]

 

The Yankeea and Houston don't have to make any moves to beat the Twins. That's the difference.

 

We've played both of them very well this year. A couple meltdowns cost us against the Bronx. I do think Romo will help against the Yankees specifically. But yeah I'm definitely disappointed as well don't get me wrong.