Official: Addison Reed DFAd

[Seth Stohs]

No surprise, but veteran reliever Addison Reed was Designated for Assignment to make room for Austin Adams.

 

Reed had begun his rehab with the Red Wings. Some say he'd hit 88 and 89. From watching a couple of his outings, I saw 86-87. 

 

It's too bad. Injuries stink. 

[TheMatt]

Didn't work out but I still think it was a great signing/contract.

[Mike Sixel]

I hate the humans get hurt in jobs that are about entertaining us.....hate it.

[twins_89]

The Twins off-season reliever plan is rapidly falling apart. Reed and De Jong have pitched themselves off the 40 man roster. Romero, Vasquez, Hildenberger, and Mejia are deservedly off the 25 man roster. I doubt anyone has much faith in Harper, Morin, Magill, Duffey, or Adams in high leverage situations. That leaves Rogers, Parker, and May to carry the load in close games. Overall, the bullpen has been OK so far this season, but it's highly questionable that the group can maintain an acceptable degree of success going forward.

[Vanimal46]

Didn't work out but I still think it was a great signing/contract.

Concur. Just because it didn't work out with Reed doesn't mean the Twins should stop pursuing talented free agents in the future.

[MNT1996]

 

I hate the humans get hurt in jobs that are about entertaining us.....hate it.

 

Part of professional sports. They make millions of dollars so I don't feel all that bad about it. He'll be just fine.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Part of professional sports. They make millions of dollars so I don't feel all that bad about it. He'll be just fine.

 

that's brutal. And cold, about a human getting hurt.

[MNT1996]

 

that's brutal. And cold, about a human getting hurt.

 

Obviously I don't wish for anybody to get hurt, but professional sports (and many professions for that sake) are cutthroat. If you don't perform, then the team or company will fire you. Professional players are tremendously overcompensated in their paychecks for what they do and they understand the risks (injuries included) in what they signed up for. I have more sympathy for the laborers who put in the behind the scenes work day in and day out to keep this country running than a professional baseball player who is guaranteed 9 million and didn't perform because of a thumb injury. 

[jkcarew]

Only 30, but got paid...so, it will be interesting to see what he chooses to do. Clearly something happened around May of last year. Maybe he gets claimed. But if not, I think I'd try to take an entire season off and see if I could get a non-roster invite next spring. He has time (in his career) to get healthy. Twins didn't have time to wait, given their situation and the fact that he's not signed beyond this year. Either way, some rest without the pressure to rehab/perform might be the best thing for his career at this point. I hope so.

[USAFChief]

 

that's brutal. And cold, about a human getting hurt.

There's "hurt," and there's "hurt."

 

I have a hard time feeling terribly sorry for someone who is otherwise just fine, but lost his ability to throw a baseball over 90 MPH. His life hasn't been affected in any material way, other than perhaps his ability to earn additional millions of dollars.

 

I feel bad about someone who had their legs blown off in Iraq. That's hurt. 

[Dman]

It was the right move to make at this time. Hate to see an injury lead to this but it happens. I wish Reed the best and maybe next year he can still come back and make it. Once the velocity goes it is hard but it can be done.

[Han Joelo]

I'm not surprised, and yet I am.  Well, maybe he will go unclaimed, keep rehabbing, and make it back later this year.  Best of luck.

[ChrisKnutson]

Mejia to IL. Romero optioned. Hildenberger optioned. Reed DFAd...

 

I’d say now’s a pretty good time to make a trade, right?

[ekuhne]

 

The Twins off-season reliever plan is rapidly falling apart. Reed and De Jong have pitched themselves off the 40 man roster. Romero, Vasquez, Hildenberger, and Mejia are deservedly off the 25 man roster. I doubt anyone has much faith in Harper, Morin, Magill, Duffey, or Adams in high leverage situations. That leaves Rogers, Parker, and May to carry the load in close games. Overall, the bullpen has been OK so far this season, but it's highly questionable that the group can maintain an acceptable degree of success going forward.

Harper has passed almost every test put in front of him so far. I agree that I wouldn't trust him much but I also haven't seen him pitch himself out of the role. The Bullpen has been lights out (minus Hildy) the past couple of weeks. Until they prove themselves otherwise, the stats speak for themselves in that those four have been solid major league relievers. All four of them have ERA+ of above 200 (Duffey with a small sample size and Magill with 197) and ERA's in the low 2s. 

 

[Don't Feed the Greed Guy]

A tip of the cap to Mr. Reed for showing up, working hard during his rehabilitation assignment, and pursuing his dream of a comeback. He can still work on that dream outside the Twins organization.

 

Also, a tip of the cap to Twins management for making the right baseball decision. This attention to prompt management of the 40-man roster may bode well for the Twins' commitment to winning as they are faced with more situations between now and the trade deadline. I can image a more cost-conscious scenario where the Twins might have taken their time, and Mr. Reed's future by trying to maximize their $16.75 million investment ($8+ million this year). The fact that Falvey and Lavine arrived at this decision, now, appears to reveal a commitment to win, now.

[Mike Sixel]

 

There's "hurt," and there's "hurt."

 

I have a hard time feeling terribly sorry for someone who is otherwise just fine, but lost his ability to throw a baseball over 90 MPH. His life hasn't been affected in any material way, other than perhaps his ability to earn additional millions of dollars.

 

I feel bad about someone who had their legs blown off in Iraq. That's hurt. 

 

Except we read all the time that these guys can't lift their arms in their 50s, and that the concussions (like Mauer) have lifelong consequences.

 

And, you can feel bad for more than 1 type of person getting hurt. That seems pretty obvious.

 

Whatever, ya'll don't feel bad for him getting hurt, your choice.

[MMMordabito]

 

that's brutal. And cold, about a human getting hurt.

 

Oh, the humanity!

 

..... Wait .....

 

Reed DFA'd because of Hildenberger ...

 

Word play on Hildenberger's recent performances ....

 

Straight to hell with me .....

 

 

[SomeGuy]

 

The Twins off-season reliever plan is rapidly falling apart. Reed and De Jong have pitched themselves off the 40 man roster. Romero, Vasquez, Hildenberger, and Mejia are deservedly off the 25 man roster. I doubt anyone has much faith in Harper, Morin, Magill, Duffey, or Adams in high leverage situations. That leaves Rogers, Parker, and May to carry the load in close games. Overall, the bullpen has been OK so far this season, but it's highly questionable that the group can maintain an acceptable degree of success going forward.

It is fair to question a few maintaining the success they've had but I would also question some of the others maintaining the degree of failure that they have achieved so far? There is no way that Hildenberger is an 8+ERA going forward (3.31 FIP, and career xFIP of 3.57). This is just a Just a bad stretch for him.

 

I'm not giving up on Hildenberger (14.0 IP), Romero (8.0 IP), Vasquez (0.0 IP), or Mejia (11.1 IP) at this point.  I'm fairly confident that at least 2 of these players return and pitch respectably.

[ashbury]

The MLBTR article stated that, like any veteran with a certain number of service years, he could refuse an outright assignment and choose free agency. But would that mean forfeiting the remainder of his contract and hoping for the same or better from another team? The odds of that are so low as to not be worth mentioning in print, I would have thought.

[h2oface]

 

Harper has passed almost every test put in front of him so far. I agree that I wouldn't trust him much but I also haven't seen him pitch himself out of the role. The Bullpen has been lights out (minus Hildy) the past couple of weeks. Until they prove themselves otherwise, the stats speak for themselves in that those four have been solid major league relievers. All four of them have ERA+ of above 200 (Duffey with a small sample size and Magill with 197) and ERA's in the low 2s. 

 

8 of the 15 runners Harper has inherited have scored. That's 53.3%, and at one time it was 7 or 12!

 

So there is that test......... The teammates that got credit for those runs know that test. Early in the season, when Hildenberger was being praised (and a coulple of games he deserved praise), he had also given up 5 inherited runs, but his ERA was 0.00. Those stats speak for themselves, too, but are often disregarded, not included, or not even considered. That said, Harper is in the mix, and there are worse in the pen. 

 

May has inherited 10, and stranded them all!

 

32 year old Austin Adams? Who?

 

I think that even if one thought a signing was good, if it becomes a failure, then regardless of expectation, the fact is it was a failure, for whatever reason. It can't still be a good signing just because you thought at the time it was. But that is a part of the budget, or should be at least, just like surprise repairs to a rental building. So don't stop tying to get free agent help. Get Kimbrel.

 

 

[operation mindcrime]

Only 30, but got paid...so, it will be interesting to see what he chooses to do. Clearly something happened around May of last year. Maybe he gets claimed. But if not, I think I'd try to take an entire season off and see if I could get a non-roster invite next spring. He has time (in his career) to get healthy. Twins didn't have time to wait, given their situation and the fact that he's not signed beyond this year. Either way, some rest without the pressure to rehab/perform might be the best thing for his career at this point. I hope so.

You lost me at "Maybe he gets claimed."

[SomeGuy]

8 of the 15 runners Harper has inherited have scored. That's 53.3%, and at one time it was 7 or 12!

 

So there is that test......... The teammates that got credit for those runs know that test. Early in the season, when Hildenberger was being praised (and a coulple of games he deserved praise), he had also given up 5 inherited runs, but his ERA was 0.00. Those stats speak for themselves, too, but are often disregarded, not included, or not even considered. That said, Harper is in the mix, and there are worse in the pen.

 

May has inherited 10, and stranded them all!

 

32 year old Austin Adams? Who?

 

I think that even if one thought a signing was good, if it becomes a failure, then regardless of expectation, the fact is it was a failure, for whatever reason. It can't still be a good signing just because you thought at the time it was. But that is a part of the budget, or should be at least, just like surprise repairs to a rental building. So don't stop tying to get free agent help. Get Kimbrel.

How many of those inherited runners scored via sacrifice fly, fielders choice, GIDP, etc.? How many times did they inherit runners with fewer than 2 outs? Those teammates that get credited for the runs know who put those runners on base or in scoring position.

 

Take last night for example, May puts runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and Magill let's the one score on a sacrifice fly before finishing the inning. He came in and avoided the big inning that it was headed for. Good chance that run scored no matter who came in.

[h2oface]

 

How many of those inherited runners scored via sacrifice fly, fielders choice, GIDP, etc.? How many times did they inherit runners with fewer than 2 outs? Those teammates that get credited for the runs know who put those runners on base or in scoring position.

Take last night for example, May puts runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and Magill let's the one score on a sacrifice fly before finishing the inning. He came in and avoided the big inning that it was headed for. Good chance that run scored no matter who came in.

 

I don't know. You can spend the time to find out and look it up, though, if you really want all the details. Bases loaded no outs is different than bases loaded 2 outs and you give up a first pitch double that clears the bases, or three walks and they all score before you get a ground out. That's why they call it relief, I guess. But it certainly matters, just like giving up 5 runs after an error that makes them all unearned, and one gave up 5 consecutive hits and a couple walks and 15 games later all that is talked about is the ERA. ERA is not the most important stat line, just one of them. (Harper's ERA is certainly misleading, and the ship has sailed to use Hildenberger's ERA since all-star break last year as a defense of his prowress. That's not a small sample, and it is the most recent time period).

[Doomtints]

Inherited runners scoring is an incredibly important stat and most relievers are pretty bad at it. Most are so bad at it I think they know the stats won't count against them and don't take the role seriously until it's their stats on the line -- it's quite magical how inherited runners will score so often but no more than that regardless of the number of outs when the pitcher came in.

 

Never trust a reliever's ERA. ERA only matters when the pitcher starts the inning, which means it matters for starting pitchers and closers. For every other pitcher, it's some ratio of ERA and inherited runners scoring that matters.

[ashbury]

Most are so bad at it I think they know the stats won't count against them and don't take the role seriously until it's their stats on the line

That is a level of mind-reading beyond most people.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

There's "hurt," and there's "hurt."

 

I have a hard time feeling terribly sorry for someone who is otherwise just fine, but lost his ability to throw a baseball over 90 MPH. His life hasn't been affected in any material way, other than perhaps his ability to earn additional millions of dollars.

 

I feel bad about someone who had their legs blown off in Iraq. That's hurt.

agreed, and I don’t mean to compare Reed’s injury to a combat veteran’s or a farmer who was injured in a combine accident, but.... we don’t know what kind of pain Addison Reed may be dealing with now or in the future. Just cuz he isn’t injured in a physically obvious way, makes him any more or less “in pain”. For all we know he could be physically disabled due to repetitive injury.

 

While I agree with the FOs decision, I do sympathize for Reed and wish him well.

[Brandon]

Mejia to IL. Romero optioned. Hildenberger optioned. Reed DFAd...

 

I’d say now’s a pretty good time to make a trade, right?

Or bring Romero back up and give him a full workload. He had 7 consecutive scoreless innings when demoted. He was demoted because the Twins didn't need an 8th man at the time.

[Thrylos]

I appreciate the decisiveness of this front office to cut the cord early enough when there is no hope.

[stringer bell]

Much as De Jong was DFAed after one appearance, Adams could be DFAed quickly as soon as Romero is eligible to return. He will probably get a couple of chances to pitch, given what happened in the last three games, and if he doesn't do well it might be his last chance.

 

I'm wondering about Meíja. I've always thought he was more suited to be a starter and I'm pretty certain the Twins don't want to give up on him. To my knowledge, he hasn't started a rehab for his injury. If the Twins consider him a viable option for the bullpen, I would hope he gets back soon. 

[yarnivek1972]

I appreciate the decisiveness of this front office to cut the cord early enough when there is no hope.

It kinda took a long time with Hughes last year. He was with the team until late May and was on the active roster for almost a month.