Passan reports polanco to Seattle

[notoriousgod71]

Can't wait to see the return...

[Brandon]

Mariners To Acquire Jorge Polanco - MLB Trade Rumors

[Brandon]

One of the players.  there are 4 from reports

Justin Topa Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[Brandon]

and Anthony DeSclafani Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com  

I had a feeling this would happen

 

[Brandon]

OF prospect Gabriel Gonzalez Minor Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[Brandon]

Darren Bowen College & Minor Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com

and cash

[AZTwin]

It’s basically Gonzalez for Polanco.  They really threw crap against on wall and took fliers here. Quantity over quality..  Must’ve really just wanted to dump the payroll.

[bighat]

[PseudoSABR]

2 minutes ago, AZTwin said:

It’s basically Gonzalez for Polanco.  They really threw crap against on wall and took fliers here. Quantity over quality..  Must’ve really just wanted to dump the payroll.

Well Gonzalez is the long term value, but Anthony DeSclafani and Justin Topa will play big roles for the club in 2024.   This is a good deal, netting a top 100 prospect and major league pitching help (although not elite) for the present.

[BiggestRoccoFan]

Terrible trade by a terrible front office. 

[SwainZag]

17 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Terrible trade!   I don’t like this trade at all.   Pohlad is a cheapskate!   Fine with me and I won’t come to Target field.    I’m so tired of Pohlad being stinking cheap.  

With Julien needing regular playing time and Jorge being on the last year of his deal, it was on only a matter of time until he was dealt.

 

EDIT:  The Twins did have a $12m option for 2025

[ziggy]

DeSclafani reminds me of Scott Klingenbeck. Bring your glove to Target Field if you sit in the outfield bleachers.

Hopefully with the cash return the Twins have a major announcement soon............ 

 

[bighat]

I have no idea why everyone's so mad? 

A top Seattle prospect, a starting pitcher who can slot into the rotation, a bullpen arm, a project, and some cash for Jorge Polanco? 

I love Polanco, he's a top 5 all-time favorite Twin for me. But I think with Julien & Brooks Lee both looking solid, you have to make this trade. 

[FilthyMogwai]

Wonder if this opens up Polanco's salary to sign a free-agent?

[ziggy]

DeScalfini makes 12 million, Polanco makes 10. or 10.5, I forget which. I imagine the cash is the salary difference.

[FilthyMogwai]

6 minutes ago, ziggy said:

DeScalfini makes 12 million, Polanco makes 10. or 10.5, I forget which. I imagine the cash is the salary difference.

Ugh. 

[Blyleven2011]

From what I heard ,,,

Twins got 6 million  cash plus 4 players in Polanco trade ...

 

Topa had a strong year with Seattle in 2023 , bullpen arm 

 , desclafini will be the fifth starter and the two prospects must prosper in the minor leagues to make the show some day ...

Going to miss Polanco  and I wish him well in Seattle  ...

[stringer bell]

DeSclafani hasn't been healthy for the last two years. He was very good in 2021. Can he be both healthy and effective in 2024 at 34 years of age? I think there's a greater than zero chance that he can be effective. I looked at his game log and he pitched very well until sometime in May. Injury? Maybe.

I would also note that AD (tired of typing that long name!) was much better in the friendly confines of Oracle Park. 

We fans want to win every trade, meaning only elite major leaguers and top prospects. I don't know who will win this trade, but it will most likely be decided by the health of the major leaguers.  

[Parfigliano]

2 hours ago, bighat said:

I have no idea why everyone's so mad? 

A top Seattle prospect, a starting pitcher who can slot into the rotation, a bullpen arm, a project, and some cash for Jorge Polanco? 

I love Polanco, he's a top 5 all-time favorite Twin for me. But I think with Julien & Brooks Lee both looking solid, you have to make this trade. 

I didnt really expect much more for Polanco

[pierre75275]

1 hour ago, ziggy said:

DeScalfini makes 12 million, Polanco makes 10. or 10.5, I forget which. I imagine the cash is the salary difference.

The Giants are paying 6 million of his salary already. Plus Seattle is sending 6 million plus cash to cover Topa's salary.

The Twins will pay next to nothing of Andrew D salary for 2024

[FilthyMogwai]

31 minutes ago, pierre75275 said:

The Giants are paying 6 million of his salary already. Plus Seattle is sending 6 million plus cash to cover Topa's salary.

The Twins will pay next to nothing of Andrew D salary for 2024

Put this way, I'm less irritated by the trade. I'd have preferred Anthony DeSclafani not be included at all. But I figured there had to be something covering his salary.

[pierre75275]

5 hours ago, FilthyMogwai said:

Put this way, I'm less irritated by the trade. I'd have preferred Anthony DeSclafani not be included at all. But I figured there had to be something covering his salary.

It appears the earlier news was incorrect, the Twins will be responsible for about 4 million of Andrew D salary 

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

11 hours ago, bighat said:

I have no idea why everyone's so mad? 

A top Seattle prospect, a starting pitcher who can slot into the rotation, a bullpen arm, a project, and some cash for Jorge Polanco? 

I love Polanco, he's a top 5 all-time favorite Twin for me. But I think with Julien & Brooks Lee both looking solid, you have to make this trade. 

This. Not sure what kind of return people were expecting. 2 MLB pitchers and a top-100 prospect. Not too shabby. Ideally, Descalfani can give them similar production to what they got from Maeda last year and it allows them to shift Varland to a high-level bullpen role - I think he'd do very well in that spot. As for Topa, health is the big thing but he was good for Seattle last season and got better down the stretch.

[Squirrel]

8 hours ago, FilthyMogwai said:

Put this way, I'm less irritated by the trade. I'd have preferred Anthony DeSclafani not be included at all. But I figured there had to be something covering his salary.

We weren’t going to get more for Polanco or Kepler, as some still want him traded or would have preferred him instead. We have the depth in the infield so moving Polanco made the most sense. I look at it as we got a decent BP arm and a top-100 prospect. We need starters to fill out the rotation and DeSclafani does that and can hopefully eat some innings. If he can’t do that, it won’t hurt to cut him. We have infielders and needed the room. And I am hoping we can find a bit more room in another trade.

[Roaddog]

Highly meh on Drscalfini or however it's spelled. Tupa should be useful. I'm not gonna even pretend to know about the prospects. Wait and see on this trade

[FilthyMogwai]

4 hours ago, pierre75275 said:

It appears the earlier news was incorrect, the Twins will be responsible for about 4 million of Andrew D salary 

Thanks. $4-Mil still not bad for a 5th starter, even as the Twins have little extra to work with.

The trade itself I'm not a fan if but if it had actually added salary, I'd have lost my mind. 

[FilthyMogwai]

50 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

We weren’t going to get more for Polanco or Kepler, as some still want him traded or would have preferred him instead. We have the depth in the infield so moving Polanco made the most sense. I look at it as we got a decent BP arm and a top-100 prospect. We need starters to fill out the rotation and DeSclafani does that and can hopefully eat some innings. If he can’t do that, it won’t hurt to cut him. We have infielders and needed the room. And I am hoping we can find a bit more room in another trade.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the trade. I do think they got decent value but I'd rather not see DeSclafani every 5th or 6th turn.

Prospects and the relievers and freeing up Polanco's (reasonable) salary, okay. But adding DeSclafani all but assures we'll see him in the rotation. 

That's not a move that a team with playoff aspirations should be making.

Hopefully this gets the ball rolling for another move to actually upgrade the rotation. But, I'm skeptical that can be done.

[Battle ur tail off]

12 hours ago, Parfigliano said:

I didnt really expect much more for Polanco

I think this is a good return for just Polanco. With Julien and Lee, there wasn't going to be much place for him to play. The swapping his money for a 5th type starter though I don't like, would have been a better trade if he didn't come back in the package IMO.

My only deal is that it really doesn't do anything to improve the club for next year. Yes, the top prospect is nice, but if we think the Descalini or whatever his name is is going to replace Sonny Gray, then we are still going backwards. 

Still need a trade for a rotation arm that slots above Joe Ryan. #2-3 type guy. 

[Squirrel]

1 hour ago, FilthyMogwai said:

Personally, I'm not a fan of the trade. I do think they got decent value but I'd rather not see DeSclafani every 5th or 6th turn.

Prospects and the relievers and freeing up Polanco's (reasonable) salary, okay. But adding DeSclafani all but assures we'll see him in the rotation. 

That's not a move that a team with playoff aspirations should be making.

Hopefully this gets the ball rolling for another move to actually upgrade the rotation. But, I'm skeptical that can be done.

To upgrade the rotation, to get a top end starter, will cost, a lot. Think Lee or Lewis. I’m fine using Lee for a big return like that. Are you? Because it will take someone like that, and then some.

I do think this trade is a precursor. Will have to wait and see. If nothing else happens, then I will be right with you and not like it. But Polanco has had issues of late keeping healthy. I will miss his bat in the lineup, so hopefully there is payroll room now to do that. But Polo’s defense just was okay. I’m hopeful Julien can improve. If we haven’t traded Lee for pitching, he can come in, too.

[FilthyMogwai]

5 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

To upgrade the rotation, to get a top end starter, will cost, a lot. Think Lee or Lewis. I’m fine using Lee for a big return like that. Are you? Because it will take someone like that, and then some.

I do think this trade is a precursor. Will have to wait and see. If nothing else happens, then I will be right with you and not like it. But Polanco has had issues of late keeping healthy. I will miss his bat in the lineup, so hopefully there is payroll room now to do that. But Polo’s defense just was okay. I’m hopeful Julien can improve. If we haven’t traded Lee for pitching, he can come in, too.

Lee, yes. Lewis, no. But, of course, it depends on the pitcher. 

The cost of a frontline SP is where my skepticism is and where it has been all offseason. I've seen a lot of names thrown around, and I've always said, "Are you okay with what trading what it would cost to get them?"

Personally, I would have rather ween Woo or Miller in this trade than AD and all the rest.