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USAFChief
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Shout out to Headrick who has done an admirable job in long relief today.   Edit: reward is a trip to St Paul?

Melissa
Melissa

I’m here!  

Brock Beauchamp
Brock Beauchamp

Tough crowd in here. Did the Twins get swept? Seriously though, lighten up a bit. It's one game of 162 and the Twins just won the season series against the Yankees for the first time in 22 years.

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3 minutes ago, Sutter50 said:

More hindsight 20/20 goggles. Where can you buy these?

 

3 minutes ago, Sutter50 said:

More hindsight 20/20 goggles. Where can you buy these?

I saw them at Dicks. Near the swimming goggles

Schmoeman5 FCL Twins

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1 minute ago, hitterscount said:

Tuned back in to see Solano with more porous defense. Some decent D and an Ober start they probably get the sweep. Anyone know why Correa is out?

Blowout game and load management 

tony&rodney St Paul Saints

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1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Huh. Turns out "Donnie Barrels" refers to defense, not offense.

Solano was let go by previous teams when he stopped hitting line drives. He is often referred to as a versatile player but as seen in every game he plays, the glove does not play. One has to like a player who hits line drives but it is curious to read comments, not entirely wrong, about the defense provided by Julien. Julien is a much better defender than Solano. 

While I liked the addition of Solano this off season to provide some pinch hits and DH on occasion with an appearance maybe once a week or less in the field, he is going to need to hit .400 if the Twins let him between the lines. I don't think the Twins can keep him past June.

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16 minutes ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

There were people calling for Archer to pitch more? I thought people were saying he shouldn't even be on the team. And to clarify I think people were saying pulling guys early with a low pitch count with little to no runs. But sure lets pretend people were calling for starters to go longer after giving up 5 runs in the second inning.

Yes, there were lots of people asking for Archer to pitch more. The idea that letting your starters work out of their own jams is what's best for the team was all over these boards all last season. Are we really going to pretend that wasn't the case?

Those of us who spent the entire season explaining that Rocco was doing it to starters who weren't of the quality of Gray, Ryan, and Paddack were shouted down and told it's some organization wide "3rd time through the lineup" masterplan. We continued to say it was Rocco, and the team, attempting to avoid blowup innings by pitchers who had a high likelihood of falling apart after the 4th or 5th inning. We were told that's not how you should manage a team.

But today the story is that Rocco should've managed a pitcher with a high likelihood of a blowup inning by taking him out before he had the chance to fall apart. And now you're telling me they're different things. They aren't. Kenta went scoreless in the 3rd. Cruised right through it. But Rocco was supposed to take him out after that because the likelihood of him blowing up in the 4th was too high. Even though I've been told for a year that that's not how he should manage.

I do think he was slow to get Headrick up in the 4th. But pretending that he should've taken him out after the 3rd is 100% 20/20 hindsight like that other poster suggested, and is 100% the opposite of what the same posters were saying last year when that's what he did.

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12 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Update: when I hit "next," the site takes me to the bottom of the next page,

But,

If I hit the "double arrow" it takes me to the top of the last page, which works if there's only 1 more page. 

 

Just experimented. Double arrow take me to the bottom of the last page.

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10 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

So, Miranda hits 2 HR and then gets HBP. Headrick needs to answer.

Sure seemed intentional to me.  he wasn't anywhere near that area with his pitches and had pretty good control all day.  Was wishing Gallo would have hit one back at him at 110 for a punk move like that but I guess I'll take the 2 run home run damaging his ERA.  i really don't like that guy.

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Just now, Vanimal46 said:


Got a break at work! Let’s just look at the box score real qui-

No Way Abandon Thread GIF
 

Nevermind!

Don't think it possible to look at this box score real quick...

RickOShea FCL Twins

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1 minute ago, Dman said:

Sure seemed intentional to me.  he wasn't anywhere near that area with his pitches and had pretty good control all day.  Was wishing Gallo would have hit one back at him at 110 for a punk move like that but I guess I'll take the 2 run home run damaging his ERA.  i really don't like that guy.

The fact it was a breaking ball, made it seem less intentional.  guys don't usually get plunked in the middle olf the back with a breaking ball.

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2 minutes ago, Dman said:

Sure seemed intentional to me.  he wasn't anywhere near that area with his pitches and had pretty good control all day.  Was wishing Gallo would have hit one back at him at 110 for a punk move like that but I guess I'll take the 2 run home run damaging his ERA.  i really don't like that guy.

Miranda was hit with a breaking ball. There was absolutely zero intent there.

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14 minutes ago, Sutter50 said:

More hindsight 20/20 goggles. Where can you buy these?

It's not hindsight to see Maeda didn't have it today.  Didn't pitch well in the 1st but got lucky, pitched OK in the 2nd and got unlucky with poor fielding, pitched fine in the 3rd and then gave up three straight hits to start the 4th.  He should have been removed at that point.  There are plenty of ways to stall, so a pitcher can warm up.  They could have taken him out with his back "acting" up.

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7 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Yes, there were lots of people asking for Archer to pitch more. The idea that letting your starters work out of their own jams is what's best for the team was all over these boards all last season. Are we really going to pretend that wasn't the case?

Those of us who spent the entire season explaining that Rocco was doing it to starters who weren't of the quality of Gray, Ryan, and Paddack were shouted down and told it's some organization wide "3rd time through the lineup" masterplan. We continued to say it was Rocco, and the team, attempting to avoid blowup innings by pitchers who had a high likelihood of falling apart after the 4th or 5th inning. We were told that's not how you should manage a team.

But today the story is that Rocco should've managed a pitcher with a high likelihood of a blowup inning by taking him out before he had the chance to fall apart. And now you're telling me they're different things. They aren't. Kenta went 1-2-3 in the 3rd. Cruised right through it. But Rocco was supposed to take him out after that because the likelihood of him blowing up in the 4th was too high. Even though I've been told for a year that that's not how he should manage.

I do think he was slow to get Headrick up in the 4th. But pretending that he should've taken him out after the 3rd is 100% 20/20 hindsight like that other poster suggested, and is 100% the opposite of what the same posters were saying last year when that's what he did.

The gigantic difference you’re ignoring is that the bullpen was quite literally ravaged on an almost nightly basis last year. 12 outs a game practically the entire year. And it wasn’t just bundy and archer getting early hooks. And it wasn’t just when they were doing poorly. You know that.

The bullpen was as rested as possible and he allowed our weakest starter, whose “hard hit %” is wayyy up, to get rocked and put the game out of reach. If you want to say he shouldn’t have been pulled after 2, ok fine. But yeah he was left in until the game was put out of reasonable reach.

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2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Miranda was hit with a breaking ball. There was absolutely zero intent there.

So, no sticky stuff for German then??

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If you score 6 runs, you should be winning the game...or at least be in it. Thanks to another superb managing effort by Rocco, we were done in the 2nd inning. Sitting guys who should be playing, and leaving Maeda in to get completely shelled, were too much to overcome this afternoon. 

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1 minute ago, RickOShea said:

The fact it was a breaking ball, made it seem less intentional.  guys don't usually get plunked in the middle olf the back with a breaking ball.

 

2 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

The fact it was a breaking ball, made it seem less intentional.  guys don't usually get plunked in the middle olf the back with a breaking ball.

 

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