The reason Johan Santana isn't in the HoF has a lot to do with him getting caught in the transition away from wins as being an important stat for pitchers;
I'm not sure it's wins specifically, but there are definite timeline issues around Johan. Can't really compare him to Koufax, for example.
But at the same time, Halladay is an almost exact contemporary and managed to get to 66 WAR (and "deserved" 4 Cy Youngs). More almost exact contemporaries are Sabathia at 62 WAR and Hudson at 56 WAR. Still active and still racking up some big numbers during Johan's career were Clemens, Johnson, Schilling, and Pedro too.
Then, just after Johan came Verlander (72 WAR, 3 times "deserving" a Cy Young), Kershaw (69 WAR, 3 times deserving a Cy), Greinke (68 WAR, 2 deserved Cy's), and Scherzer (66 WAR, 2 deserved Cy's).
So while starting pitchers are throwing less than ever, these guys all managed to clear career value thresholds that Johan couldn't.
FWIW, Hamels and Felix came up a little later and still reached 58 and 50 WAR, respectively -- with his peak, Johan is probably between this group and the above guys. Not sure where the hall line with fall for this era, though.
Great points while damning to Santana's case, but still great points.
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I'm not sure it's wins specifically, but there are definite timeline issues around Johan. Can't really compare him to Koufax, for example.
But at the same time, Halladay is an almost exact contemporary and managed to get to 66 WAR (and "deserved" 4 Cy Youngs). More almost exact contemporaries are Sabathia at 62 WAR and Hudson at 56 WAR. Still active and still racking up some big numbers during Johan's career were Clemens, Johnson, Schilling, and Pedro too.
Then, just after Johan came Verlander (72 WAR, 3 times "deserving" a Cy Young), Kershaw (69 WAR, 3 times deserving a Cy), Greinke (68 WAR, 2 deserved Cy's), and Scherzer (66 WAR, 2 deserved Cy's).
Career Leaders for WAR for Pitchers
So while starting pitchers are throwing less than ever, these guys all managed to clear career value thresholds that Johan couldn't.
FWIW, Hamels and Felix came up a little later and still reached 58 and 50 WAR, respectively -- with his peak, Johan is probably between this group and the above guys. Not sure where the hall line with fall for this era, though.
Great points while damning to Santana's case, but still great points.
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