Article: Twins Rumor Central: Sunday Edition

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Excerpt from MLBTR

 

"probably had the highest volume of calls” on closer Brandon Kintzler “and some of our other relievers,” general manager Thad Levine tells Jim Bowden and Jim Duquette of MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM."

 

My interpretation

 

"I'd really like to trade kintzler for more than has thus far been offered"

[ashbury]

Ok, please ask fred guerrero what the type prospect Yona can be in his eyes. Let's go right now.

For reference, that prospect's name is Ynoa. Pronunciation: \ee-know-uh\ from b-ref.com, in case that helps remember. It detracts from credibility to keep misspelling the name of the guy you are touting.

[olivia11]

Anyone else think that Santana to the Astros for a package around David Paulino could make a lot of sense? 

 

23-year-old starter with a 92-98 mph fastball and a plus curve.  He was a consensus top 100 prospect before testing positive for PEDs earlier this month.  BA had him #51, for example.  This seems like a good time to buy low on a guy and get someone who's a good bet to replace Santana's production in the rotation right away next season.   

 

 

Maybe something like: 

RHP David Paulino (org rank #8)

3B J.D. Davis (org rank #15 - in AAA, blocked in system. Can play 1B too. Twins need RH bat)

RHP Jorge Alcala (org rank #26 - starting pitcher in A+, potential #3 starter, lottery ticket type) 

 

 

[Cory Engelhardt]

Anyone else think that Santana to the Astros for a package around David Paulino could make a lot of sense? 

 

23-year-old starter with a 92-98 mph fastball and a plus curve.  He was a consensus top 100 prospect before testing positive for PEDs earlier this month.  BA had him #51, for example.  This seems like a good time to buy low on a guy and get someone who's a good bet to replace Santana's production in the rotation right away next season.   

 

 

Maybe something like: 

RHP David Paulino (org rank #8)

3B J.D. Davis (org rank #15 - in AAA, blocked in system. Can play 1B too. Twins need RH bat)

RHP Jorge Alcala (org rank #26 - starting pitcher in A+, potential #3 starter, lottery ticket type)

 

I don't think Paulino can be traded while he is serving his 80 game suspension

[olivia11]

 

I don't think Paulino can be traded while he is serving his 80 game suspension

 

Oh that's a good point.  Didn't think about that.  Maybe could be worked around as the PTBNL.  

[nater79a]

 

Ynoa's scouting report suggested that if everything went right he would be a back-of-the-rotation starter in 4-5 years.  Littell profiles as a #4 and could debut in the majors next year.  Plus Littell fits in with the Romero & Gonsalves time frame really well.  If Falvey and Levine are really considering 2019-2022 as the big winning window, then I like that they're targeting guys who can be a part of that. 

 

I really like this move.  

 

White Sox just called.  They just put in a claim for 2019-2022 as their winning window in the AL Central. 

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Anyone else think that Santana to the Astros for a package around David Paulino could make a lot of sense? 

 

23-year-old starter with a 92-98 mph fastball and a plus curve.  He was a consensus top 100 prospect before testing positive for PEDs earlier this month.  BA had him #51, for example.  This seems like a good time to buy low on a guy and get someone who's a good bet to replace Santana's production in the rotation right away next season.   

 

 

Maybe something like: 

RHP David Paulino (org rank #8)

3B J.D. Davis (org rank #15 - in AAA, blocked in system. Can play 1B too. Twins need RH bat)

RHP Jorge Alcala (org rank #26 - starting pitcher in A+, potential #3 starter, lottery ticket type) 

 

If that was on the table, I think Falvine takes it and runs. I sure would.

[ahart10]

White Sox just called. They just put in a claim for 2019-2022 as their winning window in the AL Central.

Let it go to voicemail

[wsnydes]

Let it go to voicemail

Even better if the account hasn't been set up.

[drock2190]

I wouldn't worry about the White Sox. Majority of their prospects have high ceilings but low floors. Fangraphs can back me up on that.

[SF Twins Fan]

 

Could the Twins have a new trade partner for Dozier?  Any specific prospects from Arizona that people are excited about?

[Otto von Ballpark]

https://twitter.com/ScottMillerBbl/status/891777882682302464

 

Could the Twins have a new trade partner for Dozier? Any specific prospects from Arizona that people are excited about?

Owings was playing 2B today, but Drury has been their regular 2B this season. Owings had been their primary SS.

[70charger]

 

Let it go to voicemail

 

Falvey's young. He only Snapchats.

[dbminn]

 

 

Could the Twins have a new trade partner for Dozier?  Any specific prospects from Arizona that people are excited about?

 

They might be more interested in Escobar to fill in at 2B and SS.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

 

Could the Twins have a new trade partner for Dozier?  Any specific prospects from Arizona that people are excited about?

 

They have a couple decent pitching options, but their system lacks high ceilings.

 

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/7/23/15961538/mid-season-review-arizona-diamondbacks-top-20-prospects-for-2017

[mudcat14]

Deal Kintzler for the best offer and get Curtiss up to close right now.  He's hot and we need to see what he's got.  A veteran closer is a luxury we can't afford right now, particularly one who will be a FA in two months.

[Mike Sixel]

I still think Gimenez makes sense for a couple of teams, and allows Garver to come up.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

I still think Gimenez makes sense for a couple of teams, and allows Garver to come up.

yeah, I'd honestly flip Gimenez for org filler just to get Garver up. He's ready.

[DocBauer]

At this point, I believe you will see a lot of roster shuffling and open auditions over August and September. And not just the obvious names like Garver, Granitem Hildenberger and Busentiz sticking around. You coukd see Vielma, Reed, Curtiss and others. Might even see some of the AA staff get some innings in. Turley in a RP role wouldn't shock me.

 

Pressly in Kintzler's role, if traded, would give me palpitations but not an aneurysm. (As bad as his season has been why not use him the same way in the 9th for a game or two to see how he responds)?

 

The whole point is, the season long trial and error and evaluation period kicks up a notch to gain ML experience, challenge and evaluate a few guys for next season 40 man spots, and so the FO can have a more perspective for off season moves.

[Winston Smith]

I still think Gimenez makes sense for a couple of teams, and allows Garver to come up.

As a closer?

[ahart10]

yeah, I'd honestly flip Gimenez for org filler just to get Garver up. He's ready.

I'd be happy if Gimenez was a dfa. I don't see value.

[mudcat14]

 

I'd be happy if Gimenez was a dfa. I don't see value.

Agreed.  I don't care what kind of positive influence he is in the clubhouse.  As a whole, our shabby pitching staff is worse when he catches & he is once again below the Mendoza Line at the plate.  It makes zero sense to leave a 26-year old Mitch Garver languishing in AAA in favor of Gimenez.  He needs to get his feet wet now in order to serve as our RH half of a catching platoon for next year and beyond.    

[butterspud]

My Predictions for our pieces if traded on Monday:

Kintzler to the Brewers for Marcos Diplan (We eat all of Kintzlers $$)

Santana to the Astros for Franklin Perez and Cionel Perez, (and if we eat $$ Alcala)

Escobar to the DBacks for Anthony Banda and Christian Walker

Rosario to the Dodgers for Gavin Lux and Jordan Sheffield

Grossman to the Rays for Resly Linares

Dozier to the Dodgers, Rockies, DBacks, Rays, or Brewers this offseason...unless the Rockies offer Pint and change or the Rays offer Adames or Honeywell (Which they won't)

 

Thoughts??

 

 

 

 

[howeda7]

 

Others teams, like the Dodgers and now Boston with Price, are using the 10 day DL to give players a break or rest when they're slumping. Why the heck haven't the Twins put Polanco on the 10 day DL as a way to send him on a "rehab assignment" to AAA to help him get things figured out?

Should have been done weeks ago. A 10-day DL stint followed by rehab and bring him back after 9/1. It's not hard. 

[howeda7]

I think Kintzler will be the only one dealt. Perhaps Belisle. 

Edited July 31, 2017 by howeda7

[kab21]

 

My Predictions for our pieces if traded on Monday:

Kintzler to the Brewers for Marcos Diplan (We eat all of Kintzlers $$)

Santana to the Astros for Franklin Perez and Cionel Perez, (and if we eat $$ Alcala)

Escobar to the DBacks for Anthony Banda and Christian Walker

Rosario to the Dodgers for Gavin Lux and Jordan Sheffield

Grossman to the Rays for Resly Linares

Dozier to the Dodgers, Rockies, DBacks, Rays, or Brewers this offseason...unless the Rockies offer Pint and change or the Rays offer Adames or Honeywell (Which they won't)

 

Thoughts??

I think Kintzler and Escobar (possibly Gimenez) get dealt

[howeda7]

 

yeah, I'd honestly flip Gimenez for org filler just to get Garver up. He's ready.

 

Gimenez has no value. He's average on D and hits .190. Just say thanks for your veteran presence and DFA him already. 

[jimbo92107]

To me, the players most likely traded will be making room for guys the team wants up from AAA. Trading Kintzler and Gimenez makes room for Curtiss and Garver. We also might see Slegers up after the Garcia trade. 

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

My Predictions for our pieces if traded on Monday:

Kintzler to the Brewers for Marcos Diplan (We eat all of Kintzlers $$)

Santana to the Astros for Franklin Perez and Cionel Perez, (and if we eat $$ Alcala)

Escobar to the DBacks for Anthony Banda and Christian Walker

Rosario to the Dodgers for Gavin Lux and Jordan Sheffield

Grossman to the Rays for Resly Linares

Dozier to the Dodgers, Rockies, DBacks, Rays, or Brewers this offseason...unless the Rockies offer Pint and change or the Rays offer Adames or Honeywell (Which they won't)

 

Thoughts??

 

I doubt this many pieces get moved. I'd be surprised if more than 2 guys are moved.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Gimenez has no value. He's average on D and hits .190. Just say thanks for your veteran presence and DFA him already. 

This is probably fairly close to the truth. I know backup catchers seem to get underrated (Butera, Herrmann, Murphy), but Gimenez has already bounced around quite a bit and it generally hasn't been by trade. Claimed on waivers twice, traded for "future considerations" once, purchased once.

 

I could see him being a third catcher for the stretch drive somewhere, but that would likely have to wait until September 1st.  Likewise we could wait for a catching injury, but that might take all month too.  I'd prefer just to have Garver up now.  But I am guessing Gimenez plays out the season here, Garver gets in a few games in September, and then Gimenez (or some equivalent) is brought in on another minor league deal for next spring.