DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Now that Ryan is out, and Antony likely is as well (reading between the lines, timing etc), its time to start looking for a new GM and the future.It's going to be hard to get any of the "elite" current GM's to come to Minnesota, and none of the re-treads interest me in the least, which is why Kim Ng could be the perfect hire for this team.Out with the old, in with the new. Go Twins!
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I'm not against that but I'm not sure she'd be the best candidate. I think the GM duty in MN would be seen as very attractive so a lot of people will want it. She was the asst GM for the Dodgers but the Dodgers did a lot of spending. I would assume the Twins will still be a farm-based team and want a GM with a bit more experience in player/farm development. Not sure if Ng is that person. (Also, not sure if she isn't).
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I think the Dodgers bought a lot of international talent, and spent a lot....but the last few years? All about the farm, isn't it? I have no idea if Kim is the right person, but it would be a bold move for sure.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I think the Dodgers bought a lot of international talent, and spent a lot....but the last few years? All about the farm, isn't it? I have no idea if Kim is the right person, but it would be a bold move for sure.Ng left the Dodgers in 2011. She's been working for mlb since then.
amjgt Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I had to google her. Also, I didn't know it was a "her" until the google.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Ng left the Dodgers in 2011. She's been working for mlb since then. Oh ya, right. nm then, carry on.....
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I don't believe Kim Ng would be foolish enough to leave her Senior Vice-President for Baseball Operations with Major League Baseball gig for a shot at the GM position for the lowly MN Twins. Need one of those young people with all their hopes, dreams and aspirations just waiting to be crushed
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I don't know if Kim Ng is the right person, but now here comes the fun part where we can realistically try to identify the next GM of this team! I'd like to find a person who's in an organization that's dealt with budget constraints, has a different philosophy on development/scouting, and in a relatively successful organization.I'd probably try to target people from the Cardinals, Pirates, Royals, Rays, Indians, Athletics...
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Her move to an MLB administrative position in 2011 further clouds the picture. Was she an Antony/Smith "business admin" style assistant GM? She grew up in NYC and currently lives/works there too.
markos Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Her move to an MLB administrative position in 2011 further clouds the picture. Was she an Antony/Smith "business admin" style assistant GM? She grew up in NYC and currently lives/works there too.Her name was brought up in a Keith Law podcast several years ago. If I recall correctly, he said that she was mostly focused on business development, contract negotiations, etc; and that hiring her for a GM spot would probably require a competent assistant to lead the player development, scouting, etc portions of the job. With that limited (and perhaps outdated) knowledge, I would have no problem with hiring her provided I was confident with her team of assistants.
jimmer Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Cherington or Rehman would both be good choices as well as Ng.
TonyInOmaha Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Interesting to see if Randy Bush, currently assistant GM with the Cubs, gets any attention/speculation based on working under Theo Epstein and being an ex-Twin.
SF Twins Fan Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Cherington or Rehman would both be good choices as well as Ng.I'm not sold on Cherington. He inherited a lot of good players and also made a lot of bad moves. This article highlights a lot of his bad moves. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/ben-cherington-resignation-ends-very-odd-tenure-with-red-sox/
James Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Interesting to see if Randy Bush, currently assistant GM with the Cubs, gets any attention/speculation based on working under Theo Epstein and being an ex-Twin.Interesting idea. He's the only major hold over from the Jim Hendry era. The problem is, I don't think anyone is going to be leaving the Cubs front office until after they win a world series or start losing again.
jimmer Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Interesting to see if Randy Bush, currently assistant GM with the Cubs, gets any attention/speculation based on working under Theo Epstein and being an ex-Twin.Not 100% sure he's the best assistant GM the Cubs have.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Billy Eppler, Jason McLeod, Ray Montgomery should also be in the conversation. For me the key is not who, but what culture does he/she bring with them. They need to come from a culture of winning and all the 3 mentioned do.
howieramone2 Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 It really depends on what direction the Pohlads want to go. I'm guessing Antony is a placeholder, but since the trade deadline is just around the corner, we should have a good idea what his marching orders are by then. I have a feeling we are in for a salary dump. If then the Pohlads don't open up the checkbook this off-season, I could see a fan backlash. Are they looking to put money in, or are they looking to take money out? Sano, Buxton, and Kepler......we were so close.
jeffn48 Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Here's a name I like: Jason Mcleod - senior VP of player development with the Cubs. Obviously understands the player development side of things. Has been involved with the Red Sox and now the Cubs. Is likely 3rd in the chain of command in Chicago behind Epstein and Hoyer so he might like a little more authority. Chicago's player development has been awesome lately. Hopefully guys like him are candidates and we aren't looking at someone like Dave Stewart.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Well, it has to be someone that doesn't care who the manager is.......so, look lower.....
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 It really depends on what direction the Pohlads want to go. I'm guessing Antony is a placeholder, but since the trade deadline is just around the corner, we should have a good idea what his marching orders are by then. I have a feeling we are in for a salary dump. If then the Pohlads don't open up the checkbook this off-season, I could see a fan backlash. Are they looking to put money in, or are they looking to take money out? Sano, Buxton, and Kepler......we were so close.Yeah, I think we're going to see much lower payrolls again and we'll see guys like Sano leave in FA in a few years instead of sticking around. You can make a lot of money with a pretty ****ty team. Marlins, Astros ...
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Thoughts from CBS: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/despite-poor-2016-the-twins-gm-is-a-desirable-job-and-here-are-some-candidates/
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Thoughts from CBS: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/despite-poor-2016-the-twins-gm-is-a-desirable-job-and-here-are-some-candidates/While I certainly plan on ripping/praising the new hire, I don't really know enough about anyone to know if they are the right person for the job. All five of those people sound good to me.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 jeffn48 mentioned this name on the first page, I will say I like this guy's 30 second pitch:Jason McLeod, Cubs senior VP of player development: McLeod's list of player development successes during his time with the Red Sox and Cubs includes Anthony Rizzo, Kris Bryant, Dustin Pedroia, Kyle Schwarber, and Jacoby Ellsbury, among others.
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Just do the old George Costanza. Keep Terry as GM and then do the exact opposite of everything he recommends.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 If we offer it to Mauer...ya think he'd retire and take it? Just trying to kill two birds with one stone.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 If we offer it to Mauer...ya think he'd retire and take it? Just trying to kill two birds with one stone. Someone even more low key than Ryan? huh
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 If we offer it to Mauer...ya think he'd retire and take it? Just trying to kill two birds with one stone.Mauer (the GM) press conference after the July trade deadline, 2018..."Gosh, it was just frustrating out there, ya know? The phone kept ringing, and people were yelling at me. It's just frustrating we can't get the right guys out there."
ScottyB Verified Member Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Top of my list Dan Kantrovitz, Assistant GM of the A's. He's only 37 and has spent the last 14 years split between the A's and the Cards (doing 2 stints with each). He was director of Scouting for the Cards; in charge of oversight of statistical analysis for evaluating and targeting players in the draft, free agency and trades; and extensive international operations experience for the A's. He also has a Masters in Statistics from Harvard. Billy Beane's sidekick, but with extra experience in the Card's front office, so he knows how to win.
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