AZTwin Verified Member Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 Here's my lineup. 2B Jorge Polanco SS Eduardo Nunez 1B Joe Mauer3B Miguel SanoRF Max KeplerLF Eddie RosarioDH Bo-hung park (Palka could push here)C Juan CentenoCF Byron Buxton So in this situation I got rid of Dozier and Plouffe and kept Nunez. I think this lineup could afford to get rid of Nunez. I think pitching is going to be this teams Achilles heal so I won't even go there. Thoughts?
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 Too early to tell. But Centeno? Really? How about Murphy? And flip Nunez and Polanco, trade Nunez and find a second baseman (Beresford.) Really, this should be the Twins' 2016 lineup
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 2B Jorge PolancoSS Eduardo Escobar1B Joe Mauer3B Miguel SanoRF Max KeplerLF Eddie RosarioDH Byung-ho park (possibly Vargas)C Wilson RamosCF FA BN = Vargas, Murphy, Nunez, Grossman, Beresford. This is not a batting order. Might scrap Beresford for a 4 man bench depending on staff. Go big or go home in FA on C (and yes, I know I'm dreaming on Ramos, that's what I would do though as there's not really a ton of help in the minors. Garver might be ready at some point, but he's far from a sure thing).
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Brian Dozier 2bBrock Holt lfJoe Mauer 1bTrevor Plouffe 3bPark dhKhalil Greene sschris denorfia rfJose Lobaton cPeter Bourjos cf Rotation:James Shields, Hughes, Nolasco, Gibson, Duffey,Bullpen:Presley, Kintzler, Abad, Jason Frasor, Will Smith, drew Storen, Bob Wickman, Mike Lincoln Trades: Sano for Holt, Buxton for Denorfia, Berrios for Lobaton, Rosario for Shields sincerely,Terry Ryan
olivia11 Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 1. Byron Buxton CF2. Jorge Polanco 2B3. Joe Mauer 1B4. Miguel Sano 3B5. Max Kepler RF6. Byung Ho Park DH7. Eddie Rosario LF8. John Ryan Murphy C9. Eduardo Escobar SS I think Dozier's an off-season trade candidate and I'm holding out that Buxton has a solid second half. I don't think the Twins need to look FA position players really. Maybe a utility infielder if Nuñez and Dozier are traded before opening day. The main problems with the lineup this year had to with the effects of Sano playing out of position and too many guys taking bad at-bats. Hopefully with a lot of the season left to play, the young guys can get some experience. Besides, our win-loss record has a lot to do with having literally the worst pitching staff in the league.
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 After they go 60-21 the second half win the Wild Card game and have a good showing in the playoffs I don't see much changing from the current lineup.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 I see the Twins keeping Dozier, unless someone REALLY comes up lame for a second baseman next spring training. I would like to see basically the leftside changed with Plouffe, Escobar AND Nunez all departing, and seeing if Polanco CAN play shortstop, with the reserves being Santana and possibly Beresford or Tovar or someone else. Outfield of Rosario, Buxton, Kepler with Grossman in reserve and Walker on standby. I would like to see Vargas get some playing time, maybe a couple of weeks this season before you bring back Park. Just to see. Catching is a mess. I was surprised the Twins didn't take a flyer on Fryer when he became available again, and send down Centeno and hope that Murphy will come around. We all want to see Berrios up here, and would love to see Wheeler as the next in-line for the rotation, since it appears May is doomed for the bullpen or future development as a closer. Of course, we still have Meyer in the wings.
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Not a batting order, just as I see the roster as of now: LF BerriosCF BuxtonRF KeplerOF Grossman 3B SanoSS Escobar2B Dozier1B MauerDH ParkUTILITY Nunez, Polanco, Santana C Murphy & Centeno I'm still betting on Park improving and sticking at DH. Beresford and Vargas are on the outside looking in for the moment. The team will look at trades, waiver wire, FA for a 3rd catcher option. My roster has 14 position players. This allows for a single injury, and a possible trade of Nunez or Dozier (possibly Polanco). DH could also be a rotating position if Park or Vargas doesn't take hold of the opportunity. ROTATION: SantanaGibsonDuffeyBerriosMay Wheeler, Dean and Meyer are your reserve options. If Santana should be traded for any kind of decent return, as I talked about in another thread, you have a hole that may be filled by a veteran FA to be signed, possibly on a 1 year make good deal. BULLPEN: TonkinPresslyChargois Rogers This is your start. The pen is just too fluid right now to call. Abad and Boshers could be LH candidates. I'm thinking right now Kinzler may be back on the cheap. I'd really like to see a quality FA signing here to remove some pressure from the younger members and bring some stability. I'm thinking, at least to begin 2017, that youngsters like Melotakis, Burdi and others just aren't ready yet.
raindog Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 1. Byron Buxton CF2. Max Kepler RF3. Joe Mauer 1B4. Miguel Sano 3B5. Carlos Gomez LF (Not sure he would want to come back but I would try.)6. Byung Ho Park DH (If he comes back late in the year and produces, I think he will.)7. Wilson Ramos C8. Eduardo Escobar SS9. Jorge Polanco 2B I'm obviously not a believer in Rosario. He will not succeed with his current K/BB rate. I would love to be wrong. We would overpay to bring back Ramos and Gomez, but guess what, the Twins can afford to. If Gomez continues to struggle this year he will probably sign a one year deal and try to bounce back. Worth a gamble. I'd trade Dozier at the deadline or in the off-season.
TKGuy Provisional Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Don't understand the big push to dump Dozier. Yeah, he started horribly, but at this point, his average, etc are on career high paths and his contract is manageable. CF Buxton1b Mauer2b Dozier3b SanoRF KeplerDH. Park/Vargas/PalkaLF RosarioSS.EscobarC Murphy SP GibsonBerriosDuffey??? Closer. May I would be interested to see if we could upgrade the SS position. Texas has Andrus and Odor, with no place for Profar to play, there was even talk of sending him to AAA. Starters, May should either be the closer or a starter
raindog Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Don't understand the big push to dump Dozier. My reasoning is that he has good trade value and is 29 years old. I honestly think the Twins are 3+ years from being actual playoff contenders so I'd rather go younger.
mazeville Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Don't understand the big push to dump Dozier. Yeah, he started horribly, but at this point, his average, etc are on career high paths and his contract is manageable. It's not a push to "dump" Dozier. It's a push to trade him for something of value. The Twins have a legitimate second base prospect in Jorge Polanco. If you can get a good return for Dozier, then this team should do it. All rebuilds -- and this is still a rebuild -- include a trade of a quality player. The Twins have not done so yet. You could keep Dozier if the return isn't great. But frankly, if this team can't get a good return on an all-star second baseman with pop who can run the bases, fields well and is on a team friendly contract, then I totally give up. But it's not a "dump."
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 You and I are probably the only one's that get this
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Not a batting order, just as I see the roster as of now:LF BerriosCF BuxtonRF KeplerOF Grossman3B SanoSS Escobar2B Dozier1B MauerDH ParkUTILITY Nunez, Polanco, SantanaC Murphy & CentenoI'm still betting on Park improving and sticking at DH. Beresford and Vargas are on the outside looking in for the moment. The team will look at trades, waiver wire, FA for a 3rd catcher option.My roster has 14 position players. This allows for a single injury, and a possible trade of Nunez or Dozier (possibly Polanco). DH could also be a rotating position if Park or Vargas doesn't take hold of the opportunity.ROTATION:SantanaGibsonDuffeyBerriosMayWheeler, Dean and Meyer are your reserve options. If Santana should be traded for any kind of decent return, as I talked about in another thread, you have a hole that may be filled by a veteran FA to be signed, possibly on a 1 year make good deal.BULLPEN:TonkinPresslyChargoisRogersThis is your start. The pen is just too fluid right now to call. Abad and Boshers could be LH candidates. I'm thinking right now Kinzler may be back on the cheap. I'd really like to see a quality FA signing here to remove some pressure from the younger members and bring some stability. I'm thinking, at least to begin 2017, that youngsters like Melotakis, Burdi and others just aren't ready yet.I've read all the proposals and your's is the most realistic. Polanco as a utility player to see what he can really do. I'm not all that sure about Pressly: his windup looks more like a starter than relievers. Then there's that Berrios guy in left field. He seems out of position there
SwainZag Community Moderator Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Not a batting order, just as I see the roster as of now:LF BerriosCF BuxtonRF KeplerOF Grossman3B SanoSS Escobar2B Dozier1B MauerDH ParkUTILITY Nunez, Polanco, SantanaC Murphy & CentenoI'm still betting on Park improving and sticking at DH. Beresford and Vargas are on the outside looking in for the moment. The team will look at trades, waiver wire, FA for a 3rd catcher option.My roster has 14 position players. This allows for a single injury, and a possible trade of Nunez or Dozier (possibly Polanco). DH could also be a rotating position if Park or Vargas doesn't take hold of the opportunity.ROTATION:SantanaGibsonDuffeyBerriosMayWheeler, Dean and Meyer are your reserve options. If Santana should be traded for any kind of decent return, as I talked about in another thread, you have a hole that may be filled by a veteran FA to be signed, possibly on a 1 year make good deal.BULLPEN:TonkinPresslyChargoisRogersThis is your start. The pen is just too fluid right now to call. Abad and Boshers could be LH candidates. I'm thinking right now Kinzler may be back on the cheap. I'd really like to see a quality FA signing here to remove some pressure from the younger members and bring some stability. I'm thinking, at least to begin 2017, that youngsters like Melotakis, Burdi and others just aren't ready yet. Can Berrios play LF and pitch??
SwainZag Community Moderator Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 You and I are probably the only one's that get this Oh I am sure more than just the two of you get it
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 I've read all the proposals and your's is the most realistic. Polanco as a utility player to see what he can really do. I'm not all that sure about Pressly: his windup looks more like a starter than relievers. Then there's that Berrios guy in left field. He seems out of position there LOL! Of course I meant Rosario. I don't know if that was me or my auto correct. ☺
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Outfield:LF - Veteran FA (Targets: Carlos Gomez, Angel Pagan, Peter Bourjos) CF- BuxtonRF - Kepler Infield: C - Veteran FA (Targets: Wilson Ramos, Geo Soto)1B - Mauer2B - PolancoSS - Escobar3B - Sano DH - Park Bench:OF RosarioOF GrossmanIF NunezC MurphyPitching: BerriosGibson Duffey ??Closer: Chargois or Burdi
lukeduke1980 Verified Member Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Really? - the first few posters all have Mauer in the 3 hole for next year...really?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Really? - the first few posters all have Mauer in the 3 hole for next year...really?1. 1B - Mauer2. 2B - Mauer3. SS - Mauer4. 3B - Mauer5. LF - Mauer6. CF - Mauer7. RF - Mauer8. DH - Mauer9. C - Murphy
lukeduke1980 Verified Member Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 1. 1B - Mauer2. 2B - Mauer3. SS - Mauer4. 3B - Mauer5. LF - Mauer6. CF - Mauer7. RF - Mauer8. DH - Mauer9. C - MurphyBrock I get it Mauer's been bludgeoned to death in every thread for 3 years, but '2017 lineups' is all we have to hang onto here, so can someone please imagine him hitting in the bottom 3rd?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Brock I get it Mauer's been bludgeoned to death in every thread for 3 years, but '2017 lineups' is all we have to hang onto here, so can someone please imagine him hitting in the bottom 3rd?I'm just playing (obviously) but you're right that Mauer isn't a three hitter anymore. But I'd still probably hit him second because his career low OBP (.338 in 2015) is still pretty good. It'd be nice if he was faster and didn't clog the bases but that OBP can still do some good near the top of the lineup. But not third. You want extra base power in the third spot.
drivlikejehu Verified Member Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Twins RC+ in 2015: 89Twins RC+ in 2016: 88
ashbury Verified Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 9. C - MurphyI was hoping for Dan Smith, BYU.
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